Debunk Communism

Debunk communism, I'm interested in hearing your arguments.

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You don't need to debunk something that's repeatedly shown itself to be bunk.

All communist countries admitted that they never established communism. The utopia will never happen.

we like food

property, no matter what kind, will make almost any desperate or sufficiently bored person shove you into a fire to receive it, sadly that's the only way your kind would gain power, via massive manipulation towards whom gains access to said property.

A man is morally entitled directly to his labor, and has the right to grant others access to it under any voluntary terms he may find agreeable.

>Debunk communism, I'm interested in hearing your arguments.
The economic calculation problem

remember that faggot liberal student that wanted total control and power over everyone else and become a self-righteous and had total inabilities to have any sorts of meaningful relationships with other human beings without soundings like a total faggot?

Well eventually they evolve into communists once they inject the soft minds of other faggot retards and mass murder everyone who disagree with them by first disarming the population and then killing them.

>Communism not even once.

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"I am" trumps "we are", because fuck you.

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Communism will never work because it goes against human nature.

I need to go to sleep, but I'll tell you a based source: look up Rerum Novarum by Leo XIII. He condemns both socialism and pure capitalism. This is an actual response to communism that you won't get from people shilling on Yas Forums

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>All capitalist countries admitted that they never established capitalism. The race war will never happen.
Fixed.

Eat shit

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Ho Chi Minh wasnt even one.
He was detained in Russia and China many times for using communism for the good of his ethnic people and not muh class.

>Communism will never work because it goes against human nature.

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There was never communism anywhere, except maybe when we were all cavemen ruled by cunts.
All "socialist" countries never tried to go full collunism. They literally wipe their ass with (((Marx's))) papers.

The idea of surrendering control of alll private property to a Jewish dominated bureaucracy, because the goyim cannot be trusted to own things without "exploiting" themselves is self-refuting to anyone that isn't a Jew or a collaborator..

Here are some notes from Rerun Novarum:
slideshare.net/mobile/jonaldjustine/rerum-novarum-15184513

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why bother? it's a dead ideology with no power, no life, and no future. we might as well debate about the political economy of ancient Egypt for all that it matters today.

People are incentive based and if you take away their greatest incentive (to be better than other people) they stop working and everyone just gets poorer and poorer until everyone starves.

>All "socialist" countries never tried to go full collunism.
Liar. This is ahistorical and untrue.

>Using echoes
Malicious beta weakling.

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Tell me a first world communist country, oh wait, you can't lol.

Communists were funded by big business and corporations. Time and time again, did the genuine left get passed up for a potential puppet. See the CNT FAI in the Spanish Civil War.

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How is communism supposed to work in the utopia stage? specifically, once you reach the point where you no longer have a government calling the shots, who regulates wealth distribution, job distribution and so on? Simply stating that people will figure it out to do what's best for everyone hardly cuts it.
For instance what if a big portion of the people want to be engineers and nobody wants to be a doctor? Are people going to be forced into becoming doctors or does everyone just die to the first bat fever that comes along?

>utopia that never existed could, if we tried once again
yea, right kraut

You can't debunk something that hasn't happened yet.

Inb4 retards with their "not real communism" who don't understand the role of a state building socialism.

It never works on it's second run. The guy who establishes it gets it bit the next guy fucks it up everytime until they all fuck it up.

I don't have to, you'll either throw each other in gulags or just starve to death.

Abolishing hierarchy goes against organization and structure, each time communism/marxism/leninism and so on has been tried, at least practically, it's always been at an expense that's led to bloodshed ultimately leading into something worse than the former system that existed.

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>Tell me a first world communist country, oh wait, you can't lol.
>What is the Gini index
LOL

>Inb4 retards with their "not real communism" who don't understand the role of a state building socialism.
>he's never heard of stateless communism
LOL

200,000,000 dead bodies isn't convincing enough for your sick mind?

>I don't have to, you'll either throw each other in gulags
Capitalist USA has more prisoners than anywhere else on Earth.

ggre

Can you briefly how stateless communism could come into being, practically, and how it would function? Sincere question

Briefly explain *