If Abraham Lincoln Lived

What would President Abraham Lincoln have most likely accomplished if he had lived instead of been assassinated in 1865 by John Wilkes Booth, just right after the American Civil War? Do you agree with Lincoln on most political issues of his years, or do you differ on more of his stances? Were there points he could have more effectively managed the very brief pre-war aspect of his presidency's first term? What about possibly better managing the war years? How about what he could have tried to do during the very brief post-war part of his presidency's second term?

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I agree with his idea of shipping the freed slaves back to Africa.

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Apparently, the thought indeed occurred to him.

Let's see what you think.

Most republicans including Abe weren’t even abolitionists. They just wanted to break down the social and economic autonomy of the south and modernize/industrialize it like the north. The civil war was an infringement on states rights and that fucker would do more to trample on the rights of the citizens of the USA. Fuck him, he’s burning in hell and I’m glad he got shot.

Lincoln was a petty tyrant that received respect only after he was killed and was universally hated while he was alive. Read all of the lawsuits filed against him for suspending Habeus Corpus. He was going to be put in prison for his abuse of power. He reporters and people exercising their first amendment rights and refused to let them free unless they pled guilty and promised to keep quiet.

the USA would have bleaached the entire continent or the elites would have taken canada as their next nation for degeneracy corrupting the USA eventually

Yknow it was implemented

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I don't know much about Liberia at all, except for the name and its geographical location. Did Lincoln have much involvement in that country's foundation, or the transfer of slaves or former slaves across the sea to that land?

Lincoln was the first modern politician, the man literally had zero convictions and just said what people wanted to hear. Who the fuck knows what he would have done.

He would have just been assassinated again by the Jews before doing anything. You don't survive as President unless you conform to their will, they have made this perfectly clear already.

Yet, there seem to be so many books that promote how moral the man was supposed to have been. I think that Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps he alone, is considered by Democrats to be the most likable Republican Party President, even to this day.

he didn't say what the people wanted to hear, he was a christian man so he followed his christian values, he realized that the future of america with slavery and segregation was haiti, jamaica, or with luck brazil, even tho he wanted america to stay white he didn't want to treat other people different just for their race so what he wanted to do is bleaching the country, irish, polacks, and other europeans were shipping into america daily by the millions it was impossible for the blacks then to outbreed the whites if they all mixed

He would've shipped the slaves to Liberia or the Caribbean like he planned to, and try to reincorporate the South back into the Union without the pains of reconstruction. Of course (((John Wilkes Booth))) wouldn't have that. Sic semper goyim and all that.

John Wilkes Booth was not Jewish. He was just a post-war Confederate fanatic that had a serious chance at killing or maiming Lincoln. Booth did have a small circle of conspirators to help him, but to my recollection, none of these were Jewish, either. Do you suppose that almost every Southerner vehemently opposed to Lincoln, even post-war, was Jewish, as well?

Lincoln The Man by Edgar Lee Masters, if you're interested in the most redpilled book on Lincoln

southeners were all puppets of the elites and Booth just did what the elites wanted to do to lincoln, it is impressive that a man can get so easily to where the president is and kill him

Liberia was founded before Lincoln, mostly by Christians that thought slavery was immoral. Lincoln talked about sending slaves back, but it was considered almost impossible (or at least too expensive) to send them all the way to Liberia. More realistic proposals were to send them to Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic and Haiti) or the Mosquito Coast (Belize).

Aside from the original questions, what would the Founding Fathers have thought of Abraham Lincoln and his legacy? Would any of the Founders have thought particularly highly of Lincoln, or would most have been rather indifferent, or even viewing him with less-than-favorable perspectives of how he handled his political career and presidency? Would examining Lincoln's life have caused any of the Founders to think to themselves that they could have possibly prevented the Civil War all along, had they changed some things during the formation of the independent United States of America, and the writings of the Constitution?

I am honduran, the mosquito coast is located in the east coast of our country, we won the war and got the brits and americans out

>(((John Wilkes Booth)))

there I've contributed to this convo

Lincoln’s Crimes:
He raised a huge army at his own will without the approval of Congress.
He said that he had to violate the Constitution in order to save it.
He declared the elected legislatures of thirteen States to be “combinations” of criminals that he had to suppress.
He said he was indifferent to slavery but would use any force necessary to collect taxes.
He sent combat troops from the battlefield to bombard and occupy New York City.
He sent the Army to arrest in the middle of the night thousands of private citizens for expressing their opinions. And held them incommunicado in military prisons with total denial of due process of law. And had his soldiers destroy newspaper plants.
He was the first ruler in the civilized world to make medicine a contraband of war.
He signed for his cronies special licenses to purchase valuable cotton from an enemy country even though he had forbidden such trade and punished other people for the same practice.
He refused medical care and food to his own soldiers held by the enemy country.
He presided over the bombardment and house-by-house destruction of cities and towns that were undefended and not military targets.
His forces deliberately targeted women and children and destroyed their housing, food supply, and private belongings.
His occupying forces engaged in imprisonment, torture, and execution of civilians and seizing them as hostages.
He was the first American President to plot the assassination of an opposing head of state. He had the least affiliation with Christianity of any American President and blamed God for starting the war over which he presided.
He voted for and praised a law which forbade black people from settling in his State.
He was the first to force citizens to accept as legal money pieces of paper unbacked by gold or silver.
He was the first President to institute an income tax.
He was the first President to pile up a national debt too vast to be paid off in a generation.

Is that one of those books which appear to overly-patronize his legacy, offering perhaps overtly-flattering descriptions of Lincoln's life, or is it more neutral, and even unflattering at times to certain aspects of his career? Even modern books on Lincoln seem to patronize a hyper-positive legacy image, though he seems to have generally been a nice man.

Edgar (((Lee))) nice undercover changed jew last name, is like (((Saad))) in the middle east

Nothing I have read about him indicates that he was of Jewish descent, or with any connections to Jewish individuals, more than most men of his time would have had. There was, if I recall correctly, one higher ranking Jewish member of the Confederacy, as well as some soldiers, but that is all I can think of.

No, it's openly hostile and written from a contemporary southern perspective. If you search for it, it's freely available online. Read the first chapter and decide for yourself if it's something you're interested in. I had absolutely no idea what the war between the states was actually about until I read it.

Except Lee is his middle name my man.

You're glowing

Interesting. It is a hostile book to Lincoln, yet what were the obstacles of having the book published, and which year did it get released?

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