I am entering the 30s and lot (90+%) of my former female classmates (from elementary school to university) don't have...

I am entering the 30s and lot (90+%) of my former female classmates (from elementary school to university) don't have children. When do they think they'll procreate? And if they won't, it will be a huge birthrate hole in my generation. This isn't a thread about females, but a discussion on birthrates.

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Female empowerment leads to lower birth rates. The solution is very simple, in theory, but we're not at that point in the decline where most men are willing to accept it.

I'm from a trashy mostly social housing area and half the women I know from secondary have kids and I'm only 22

No real reason to produce more humans, we already have oversupply.

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great genetic selection going on here

>we have an oversupply
>we
maybe you do pablo

This. My sister has university degree and just married at 30 while her classmate from elementary school and neighbor already has an 11-year-old child (only one I know of).

Humans are not one group, we have too many Africans and Asians.

Yes, lower class females tend to have kids for the welfare benefits. It's how they survive.

Humans are all the same. You like to differentiate yourself for selfish reasons and to compete so you can have a reward and pat yourself on the back. Once you fill the world with your kind you will just kill each other for resources.

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>The solution is very simple, in theory, but we're not at that point in the decline where most men are willing to accept it.
Explain it.

>lower class females tend to have kids for the welfare benefits
How would you fix it? It seems clearly dysgenic.

Don't blame your leaders they have arabs and Turks over take your country

collars and cages, obviously.

Mostly a western/christian issue. I noticed the same in the country I was born in. Here however it is not normal not to have kids and still live like peter pan. The west is fucked.

I've got about 10 close friends all from 22-27 and we've got 5 kids between us. If things were as they should be as a group we should have atleast 10 kids by now.

lmao nigger, you know where you are?

I have a son with my 22 year old Italian wife and we’re going to move back to Italy soon. I don’t think any of her friends will ever have kids, let alone by 30. It’s a wreck.

I think Italy is finished, user. Italians just aren't having kids, let alone in time. And you have a foreign population that is having many kids per capita/couple. It won't change for Italians and if it does it'll already be too late. Your government is not doing anything about it, it hasn't ever done anything about it. Your country will turn African-Islamic before 2050.

I know only 5 women who married before 30. Only two of them have kids.

Very interesting observation. After reading your post I went to FB and check the profiles of all my female acquaintances; none but one have a child. All of them are between 30-33 y.o.

gg.

The wife and I wanted to have children, however she has PCOS and after 5 years of trying we are yet to have a viable pregnancy.
Shit sucks.

Most of the attention goes towards the northern countries, but I think you southerners have it the worst. At this rate I think you'll be irreversibly replaced earlier than Germans or Swedes.

Oh God no. Population gap oh no. What will we do? Oh fuck no. FUCK NO!!!! Help us!!!!!

>kys

>I think you southerners have it the worst
Yup. We had an handicapped development by a western standpoint, so to speak. You have also to consider our ponzi schems retirement system, high taxation, and the fact that lot of people can't afford a house or a car. They'll work to pay off a car they bought to work (to buy off the debt on the car).

desu, I don't that much about birth rates. I don't agree with people saying that you have to make lots of kids to outbreed the subhumans.

You cannot outbreed them and even if you can it's a retarded strategy. the best course of action is to remove all rapefugees and other subhumans of your country and close the border.

Under this condition you'd still have an older population which is not optimal, but it's not as terrible as people try to make it.

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Sounds like your sister got jewed by the Jews. She must be miserable.

I'm not looking to be a blackpill.

But I really do think you're fucked because nothing is changing within Italy. Meloni can talk about supporting people having kids but the fact is nothing has been done.

In the near future you will have hostile take overs of your towns and regions, many of your women will be taken or willing go with the enemy, deaths of despair will reign, lots of old Italian people will be as defenseless as they are useless. You just don't have the numbers to put up a fight. And if men and women can't even be trusted to breed on their own then how can they be trusted to defend themselves when the time comes and there's not enough police or army around to handle all of Italy?

It's a simple process. You're dying out really really fast and I have no clue what Italian women are doing. Italy seems like a toxic place full of toxic families and people. There's no will to live.

Yup. I wouldn't mind reaching a population optimum. We would have more space per capita, and thus the possibility of living outside forced commie blocks (53% of Italians live in a flat). Lucky I don't live in the city.

I'm in my 20s.

Out of 100 classmates, around 10 have had children so far. 2 of those 10 been coalburners, which is something I wasn't expecting. The others are generally from working class backgrounds. If this is indicative of the future, then things are not looking good is all I can say.

I'm referring to net birth rates, but also mostly the median age.

The median age for southern countries is fucked and the sheer amount of old is outweighing the young more so than any other countries on Earth.

Your women NEED to be having kids from 16-21. If it's just 2 kids then good. Your median age plummets to where it should be and you double your current birth rates.

And you'll never outbreed invaders anyway. But 3-4 kids all before 26 for the mother should be seen as normal... and completely abnormal and shamed for not doing so.

>Explain it.

If you impoverish women but make it so that they get money if they shack up with a man and have children women will shack up with men and have children and be happy about it.

I am aware of it.
>hostile take overs of your towns and regions
By who?
>Italy seems like a toxic place full of toxic families and people.
Unlucky lot of people live of only words and not acts (the stereotypes are based on reality, especially the one in the South). It's not that difficult to see that they'll be the first ones to go down.