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Jaxson Cruz
The bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc
if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois
if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc)
a good litmus test:
''1. do you work for a wage?
2. do you get to decide your wage?
3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?''
if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois
if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois
if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois
if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois
If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian.
It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.
Logan Rivera
FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani edgelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:
1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
Brandon Wright
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
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It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
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Luke Cox
On Lenin and Leninism:
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The works of Lenin and Stalin (in PDF format):
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General works on the USSR:
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Adam Jenkins
Marx and Engels complete works:
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Caleb Taylor
i'm lenin tier commy (i think) but i can't really get down with the jazz hands clapping. not sure if those are the marxist.org guys.
Matthew Thomas
how do you people cope with the guilt of causing a pandemic and killing tens of thousands?
Aiden Howard
You have to go back
Evan Ortiz
Loathing and contempt and malice and spite and rancor and disdain and a thousand other empty platitudes on you and your degenerated ilk.
Angel Perez
how do you cope with fucking ur daughter in a basement dungeon?
Jason Walker
As someone coming from a country under communism and socialism, I won't bother to argue with you, especially since you probably lack practical experience and just base your ideology on bullshit communist propaganda in books and through other communists. But I'd like to tell you that likely you have no fucking clue what you're talking till you get to live under it (in my cae it as just a coupleof years and it was enough).
Communism always, always is the way to downtrot anyone who isn't aligned with ruling class/the Party. It cannot function at all otherwise since it's built upon exploitation of the basic workers in the society far more than even capitalism does - it just throws in naive recoloring of that exploitation as "everyone working together for better future!" (except some of those "everyone" will bash the heads of the others in if they won't work) and "united, where everyone gets the fruit of their labour according to their needs" (but the Party members need shitload more than you do for some reason and if you'll expect more than the nearly fuck all you're given, you're likely a greedy capitalist pig).
Do yourself a favor, emigrate to one of the few leftover communist countries but pay attention to which partss of it that are communist work and which that are not do - for example, in China. The findings may be a bitter pill to swallow, but will help.
Caleb Thomas
(a country FORMERLY under socialism and communism)* I should add, where I lived under it for a few years before people had enough and took the whole shitfest down - and fucking good riddance.
Jeremiah Bell
State loving dysgenic faggot. Riddle me this, why are 90 percent of commies ugly as a motherfucker?
Matthew Rivera
So do you guys see yourselves in some cushy job post revolution
Hunter Nelson
I wonder if this applies to Fascism too. I hear that Spain under Franco was pretty shitty.
Chase Flores
What if the means of production are complex and the owner was actually doing a service by organizing it
Robert Reyes
Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
Matthew Martin
>leftist discussion
Remember democrat debate?
James Carter
>I hear that Spain under Franco was pretty shitty.
Where doc you hear that, from some kike perhaps? Listen to older people’s opinions. They praise Franco and said that Spain was much safer under him and that one did not need to worry about leaving their car locked due to the police being strict against theft, whilst today niggers and Gypsies rob freely.
Jacob Bell
nobody in a class achieves an A grade on a test if they all have their grade averaged at the end of a test and are told this before hand. No motivation will come to excel in a society with communist equality. GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF SMOOTHBRAIN.
Colton Murphy
No idea. I won't lie, fascism I know only from books myself that's why I say little about it and merely share what I - and those close to me - experienced in relation to communism.
Luke Wood
Soviets were pussies too, they allied with Germans and then occupied you after Germans and they slaughtered your country and murderer 25% of your elites. Communism in Poland was imposed very cowardly since it’s a cowards ideology
Angel Cox
>I wonder if this applies to Fascism too.
It does. All these fashy edgelords have no fucking clue what they are asking for. None at all.
Ryder Carter
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Eli Hall
But they do and you’re a like shill.
David Morgan
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Fuck off Shlomo
Gabriel Williams
No, they don't. And no, definitely NOT a kike shill, mutt.
Connor Young
almost everything that’s broken now or wobbly roads spaniards say this wouldn’t happen under franco I don’t think it was that bad
Logan Murphy
Amazon (and all the neoliberal goons) preventing the formation of unions through diversity makes me fucking pissed.
How can a socialist fight back against the destruction of the working class and class consciousness without giving in to racialism or nazbol? Trying to create a new multiracial class consciousness pretty much failed as a concept.
Here in Italy, the activists tasked with this objective basically turned into slavers AND neoliberals themselves.
Adrian Campbell
This
Adam Clark
Thoughts on cryptocurrencies?
Leo Thomas
you cant multi racial working class is neo liberalist inherently
Nicholas Baker
oh no no no no
Benjamin Hill
Josiah Mitchell
Hellow comrades.
What have you done to help maximize nonwhite immigration today?
Chase Baker
Jace Sanders
I support leftists economics but want anyone supporting trans kids put to death. Can we work together?
Parker Evans
bro this isn't bun.kerchan. also all anime avatars hide a tranny within them. >>bu.nkerchan.xyz
Joshua Baker
Case in point faggot:
Matthew Sanchez
Only thing that will work is a Liberterian Nationalism. Fuck off with your tranny marxism. One has to be literally braindead to believe in this garbage today.
William Gomez
capitalist porky Churchill allies with Stalin to stop the world from expelling jews as they help to keep both elitist governments like capitalist and communism strong and working together for the chosen people.
Jonathan Cooper
I was told it could work out... all of the investment and activist effort both online and irl have been for naught?
I can't fucking believe it and I'm truly starting to feel scammed.
Why can't human nature change.
Connor Martin
so commies where's that revolution to overthrow capitalism?
Carson Moore
I come here to ask some questions.
>why do you care about racism?
>why do you care about anti-semitism?
>why do you care about homosexuals?
>why do you care about trans people?
Mason Turner
Anyone here watch Destiny? He’s pretty based
Jayden Gonzalez
TRANS RIGHT OH EM GEEEEE
Jose Smith
What does 'gegen' mean...?
Saved, by the way.
Samuel Brown
pedos aren't based.
Isaac Price
Against
Cameron Adams
lel what’s wrong? cant go on any thread without having your lord and savior memed on? so you’d rather spend your time LARPing in this thread?
Jaxson Fisher
You're fucking late!
Andrew Foster
nice anecdotal evidence on an anonymous forum
Angel Sanders
Thanks user.
Blake Cooper
Kys commie fucktard
Brody Harris
Gern geschehen!
Michael Taylor
how the fuck am i larping? this place is a national socialist and libertarian board. bunkerchan is the other way around m8.