All countries that beat the virus still have a few cases a day

NZ, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, China, Iceland etc.

Despite having beaten the virus, there is always 8 or 10 or 2 etc. new cases per day. How come it’s not flatlining?

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This is what flattening the curve means. Making it last forever.

Because "elimination" is a fraud being pushed by conmen.

You cannot make a serious post and include China in it op. Come the fuck on now.

At American levels, China would need to have 200k new cases per day and millions of active cases. That’s not the case.

Flattening the curve still involves the same amount of people dying, just stretched out over months to ensure hospitals can cope

Only 10% of our hospital beds have been filled with corona patients when we peaked. Our politicians never talked about the “hospital capacity” thing.

They always say we need to eradicate the virus.

Germans at it with the eradication talking again.

You people talk the same way. You are far from “the herd”.

We’re opening up basically everything except restaurants and bars.

Why not restaurants??

existing clusters and househould transmission are causing issues for us, also people in government quarantine that have returned from overseas. we haven't have a community case for nearly 2 weeks

it's a virus... you realize there's still SARS and swine flu in the world. You cannot make it go away completely, it's not possible.

care homes also. there was an autism care facility in auckland that got a case which subsequently became a cluster, and like 5 other care homes which have caused us to have a disproportionately high death toll. if we didn't have clusters in those facilities, there is a real chance we would have 0 deaths

What do you think this is just gonna go away? lol the ride never ends my friend. Not only is this virus impossible to completely eradicate, immunity is only temporary.

All efforts to stop the coronavirus are futile in the long run. This pandemic is going to last forever. There is no vaccine, there is no cure, and there is no longterm immunity. It mutates quickly and there's already multiple strains. There will be constant rolling lockdowns, coronavirus seasons every winter, millions of deaths every year, the global life expectancy will drop by 20 years and almost no one will live past their 60s.

This is the new normal.

>You cannot make it go away completely, it's not possible.
Why? We didn’t have swine flu cases in Germany

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Yes you did

Ok, but not any more, so we eradicated swine flu in Germany.

The trick is to keep your borders and population locked down tighter than a jew`s wallet. Only then will it flatline.

>Why isn't the virus just going away
Because asymptomatic doctors are treating patients still.

Our infection rate will increase as we open our economy back up in the next weeks, that's why the fed government is pushing a contact tracing app so they can quickly trace outbreaks and stop them, they need a large uptake of the app though for it to work.

It’s mostly just health workers picking it up here now, which isn’t surprising. There’s 68 patients with active virus in Victoria. A little while more to choke it out completely, just don’t open our borders.

Also don’t open our borders because the virus is active overseas.

How would you know either way?

We know traffic and emissions in China have nearly normalized. Satellites show this.

>Our infection rate will increase as we open our economy back up in the next weeks

I have heard this here countless times. I don’t get it.

Australia has 5-10 more cases per day nationwide. People are infectious between 5 and 15 days... Australia has an R0 less than 1, so 10 people infect on average fewer than 10.

Putting this all together Australia has 100-200 people max who are still spreading the virus right now. These people recover too soon.

How will opening the economy somehow create more infected? I just don’t get it. You are coming from 100-200 people who are recovering, so for a new massive outbreak you would need to allow massive large gatherings and stop all social distancing measures. If you don’t, these 100-200 will recover and max infect another 100 who will also just infect 100 or fewer... so where’s the outbreak?

If you are better at stuff the 200 will infect only 100 who imfect 50 who infect 25 who infect 12 who infect 6 who infect 3 who are shot on the spot.

Its so fucking retarded. If only our governments closed our borders earlier instead of bowing down to all the people claiming that it's racist to to ban Chinese people from crossing the borders and to all the university's who claim they need all these Chinese students so they can stay in business the world wouldn't be in this mess.

Also it's almost inevitable that the media is gonna start pumping out articles in a month or so saying that the borders need to be reopened, the governments will listen to them and boom second wave.

Either way since the disease is so incredibly infectious and since people are gonna start a boogaloo if the lockdown is extended much further I honestly think that our governments are just gonna give in and let community resistance do its thing.

Love the bantz. You may be spared.

To be sure the virus is eliminated you must have zero cases for 2 incubation period.
So 1 month.

With the number of asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic cases it is hard to tel that you have zero

People have to go shopping

It's not even winter flu season there. Expect it to ramp up significantly in a few months.

>I have heard this here countless times. I don’t get it.

I think they believe there are infected in the general population that have been asymptomatic , though our testing doesn't really back that up yet. The only way to see id to either test everyone or start letting the carriers, if they exist mix with everyone again.