If you haven't heard of seasteading, its a bunch of lolbertarians who thing they'll be able to escape governments by starting indpendent sea based communities
A bunch of their ideas are pretty silly (pic related) but I think the concept is not. What would be quite interesting to see is how libertarian seasteads would fair against less libertarian opponents. A seathnostate if you will.
I would love to watch them fail but sadly, I have no confidence in the ability of libertarians to do anything IRL.
>Seasteading
get atlantis'd.
Let the libertarians build it they wont be anymore by the time they finish
wouldn't all the water being saltwater kind of fuck things up? You would need to desalinate so much if you are totally on the water, seems like a bad idea
missed these threads. best anime is based on artificial islands.
The upkeep on something like this would be so cost prohibitive, it'd fail on those grounds alone. Sea mining is not cheap, and in the meantime, what do you have to offer another nation for trade in order to get the things you need but can't get? The scope of a project like this is staggering, and the pictures with the little self sustained nations only serves to minimize it, disallowing you to grasp it on a real level.
That would be sanctioned harder than South Africa was
First I'm hearing about this idea but it seems like you're right. Unless they built their city around an oil source or some other resource they wouldn't be able to relay on trade and need to live almost fully isolationist.
Can't imagine they could live for very long purely on what they could harvest/mine/refine from the ocean. Depending on their goals as far as quality of life anyway.
Thinking about this too much.
What if the city was built on a tower with the water pumped out of it. You could go down to the ocean floor and mine beneath the ocean.
All the stone and earth you need and possibly metals and minerals too.
God it sounds so dangerous and scary.
Problem with libertarianism is that they can't produce everything they need. They need to have something to "trade" to other communities to get it.
Too cost prohibitive, the pacific ocean's average depth is over 4km (over 2.6miles) deep. The largest building ever built is 828m high, so your tower would be the tallest (deepest?) manmade object ever.
I just can't possibly see a way to make seasteading viable unless you've got an existing state to back it up. I'm not against that, but why would ZOG or China or Russia or whoever give you cash in return for sea minerals when they can just mine them on the land without paying a bunch of racist boat-nazis to do it for them? Hell, why would they need us in the first place to do it, instead of just paying good little drones to get the sea minerals?
Is that really a problem though? I think that this way of thinking is the cause of a lot of problems and it also why everything looks the same now.
Like pic related people see the city and become entirely unsatisfied with a simple wooden house.
i dont see how would think joining a sea based HOA would result in more liberty.
Salt would rot that shit away so fast. Hope you enjoy blowing your GDP on fucking paint. I’m sure the taxes will cover it though :^)
It's not like we have a choice, do we? Considering that every single parcel of land on earth has been claimed by a state, the only way to create a place that wouldn't be under the juridiction of any state is to have it located in international waters, or underwater, or in space.
Not to mention one moderate storm would fuck your shit up.
I’ve been shilling this here for years, glad to see it may be gaining traction. The key to this is that seasteads do not preclude libertarianism, seasteads can be of any governmental system. That means that the best hope for national socialism in our day is through seasteads.
I have a healthy respect for Sharks and the water so I'll pass
Could be kino if someone would actually do it and make it work. I'd donate 5 bucks or more
What bugs me about these projects is the "lol just 3d print it" delusion and the absurd luxury renditions that prevent people from even thinking about functionality and problems, when all they have is probably a couple containers, three barges and a scrapped oil tanker bought from a ship graveyard in Africa.
When I will see engineering ideas and solutions closer to Waterworld's Smokers, I will start considering the viability of these projects because sure as fuck a -futuristic modular solar-powered stable floating desalinization plant- is not at your reach.
seasteading is based but they will come after you
desalination occurs constantly in nature from the sun heating and evapourating water. For all intents and purposes each sq meter of sea is a solar panel dedicated to desalination. All that's necessary is a top layer permeable to sunlight, a collector for the water to roll into once it condenses, and a bottom layer to absorb as much heat as possible.
Underwater cities are very interesting. They could also have an exposed area like OP's pic.
This, hanging cities and homes, living in boats, motorhomes, airships, ... are ideas we typically see ony in the media but they can become more realistic with way less effort than you put into masturbating jews.
It's too expensive and nobody wants to invest in developing it, but it is simpler than offshore oil platforms.
A lot of the technology is similar to off-gtid living, which is advancing a lot in the last decades.
>I would love to watch them fail
Of course you would. Comecon cannot succeed unless there are no more refuges on the other side of an Iron Curtain to escape to.
That shit would get torn apart in the first bad storm.
The pressure would crush it at the bottom. The materials needed and strength you would need to build it to handle the pressure would make it too expensive.
I mean, this one specifically sucks. But other similar ideas are possible.
Singapore speculated converting its coast into a neighborhood over the ocean to have more space and prevent floods.
your design ought to look more like a pyramid to account for the increase in pressure. In this design your entire tower's living space would be approximately SATP yet there is over 400 atmospheres of pressure assaulting the lower levels. You could have pressure zones inside where travel between them would mean acclimating to the decrease/increase over several hours but this would make emergencies even worse and necessitate having a hospital and the rest of your emergency services staffed by residents of that level.
I'm doing investments and working out ways to buy an offshore oil rig.
They auction them off, you know.
Or you would have to build a thick rock well around it, filled with some flexible material gluing every rock.
Still not that easy.
>bottom of the pyramid the pressure is immense
>it takes so long to go to higher levels people rarely do it
>some live for generations never leaving the level of the ocean floor
>they have begun to change
Yes, it needs to get sturdier in the bottom too.
And the entire column would have to be a pressurized air chamber with 1 atm (or one chamber per floor with a intermediary transfer chamber between them).
Piracy would come back, funding by states. It would be cool.
Honestly I'm for all these libertarian proposals. They are searching and trying new things. I always applaud that, even if the governments of the world don't.