If we banned guns, people would just make their own!

>If we banned guns, people would just make their own!
Does anyone realize how retarded of an argument this is? In pic related is a Luty 9mm SMG. It's the best that home gunsmithing has to offer. In order to build this, it would require a considerable amount of skill. And it would require even more skill to effectively use it. If guns were more available to criminals, that would mean that they have access to factory-made guns that aren't jam-o-matic smoothbore pieces of shit that doesn't even have an extractor and malfunctions every few shots. I'm all for guns, but this is a dumb argument. At best you could make this masterpiece, at worst you could build a pipe bomb assuming that you built it incorrectly. Also, there are no homemade guns that use smokeless propellants. You would need black powder cartridges because that shit wouldn't work on these types of metals. So you're really limited in what you can build assuming you don't have access to a mill or a lathe or any other factory equipment that is required for building a gun. Personally, I think the liberals have us schooled on this issue.

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Criminals dont follow laws

Yeh hes right quick burn the constitution

Literally need house-hold items and either Home-Depot or Lowes-based metal material, cutting and welding equipment.

lol just get the guns from mexico like the drugs

Where can I buy this gun?

Please stop being a faggot

I've seen examples of better with far less effort.

Kill yourself.

There are shitloads of gunsmiths in the US. Banning guns would do nothing.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying it's a dumb argument. The Halle shooter only managed to kill two people using these defective homemade firearms. They're utterly useless.

You don't. You build it yourself.

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Who is ''We''?

Yeah I gathered that. I was illustrating the point that you'll never take away a man's desire to have the means to defend himself... even in a country that tries to ban this God given right.

Yeah so true, however banning guns in the us is impossible. You couldnt get all the guns back from the owners, so it‘s already too late. You‘re screwed.

3d printers can make some decent ones

>screwed
Liberated

You can get 2 pipes and stick a shotgun slug in it and it works as an effective shotgun
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All you need to do is dent the center or rim of the cartridge

>Also, there are no homemade guns that use smokeless propellants
I'll take what is the FGC-9 for 20 cents

True, but i would prefer to live in a country which has laws to prevent any old retard from getting a firearm tough.

>it would require a considerable amount of skill.
OP is a fag and doesn't know how to Lathe or weld.

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apologize.

You fantastically retarded motherfucker. It doesn't require NASA tier equipment to make guns, IE; guns here so stupidly expensive and overtaxed that i made my own 22lr revolver from a blank 22 with a drill and a bench vice.

The main problem with guns is the ammunition, control ammo and you get all gun-related problems solved. Just remember that autistic guy in yurop who went shooting with shit homemade ammo and his gun jamming all time.

Yes, the shitskins having firearms are less concerning.

>Skill
>The halle idiot made one
good joke

>In order to build this, it would require a considerable amount of skill.
this one? yeah, sure. but talking about any gun/pistol? just download that file and print it 3D. several vids on that out there. build your own fucking armory. welcome to 2020, boomer.

Except that gun in question was made by a dude who had no knowledge or experience in firearm manufacture and made that gun as proof and point that any shitheel can just whip up a gun in their shed.

OP is a faggot and doesn't even know the history of his own points.
What a turbo fag.

fuck gun control9 and fuck you

You ever heard of a three D printer?

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The American people should be extremely well armed. If crime goes up, so be it.

Let them dream.

>bans guns
suddenly every criminal knows how to engineer and construct a gun. no you absurd tard.
not to mention most homemade guns fail laughably and I can say this with experience .

Well, your picture seems fairly deadly

Shoots 4 shots fine and then cracks

>considerable amount of skill

It literally takes just a couple hours with hand tools, dude.

>more skill to effectively use

The entire point is to spray and pray.

>the best home gunsmithing has to offer

No, it was designed to be the simplest and cheapest to make. It literally costs $50 for the parts and material. The Metral SMG is of much higher quality, requires much more skill and more complicated machinery to build, and was specifically designed as a guerrilla/terrorist weapon that can be broken down into parts for smuggling/concealment. And people build homemade AK-47's, AR-15's, pistols, bolt-action rifles, etc. from scratch all the time. One guy made an AK out of a shit shovel.

>no homemade guns use smokeless powder

But that's wrong, you fucking retard.

>that shit wouldn't work on these types of metals

What are you babbling about?

>I think the liberals have us schooled on this issue

You're just yet another in a long line of shills intended to demoralize people. Go away and get a real job. And maybe learn something about guns in general and homemade guns in particular before you go spouting off about them.

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1) get 19mm steel pipe
2) weld straight handle towards front
3) place 12g shell in rear of pipe
4) get 22mm steel pipe and weld straight handle towards back
5) cap off back of 22mm and weld a short section of nail as a firing pin
6) move hands together while pointing open end at bad person

Easy to make, easy to reload, deadly

Banning weapons empowers the government and criminals whilst putting those who follow the law at risk. Criminals will always act criminal and gain access to weapons. Leaving civilians unprotected against crime and tyranny is abhorrent. I would rather every single person on the planet had a firearm than ban them from the general public. The threat of violence is a fantastic motivator against cunts, maybe if cunts had a 9mm pressed against their throat they'd be less inclined to act a cunt. Ever notice since normals stopped bullying everyone turned into a cunt? Just a thought

At a prison I worked at an inmate tried doing this, it didn’t work and it blew his hands off.

>you don't have access to a mill or a lathe
I can find a lathe for $1,000 brand new from Amazon. (or even bigger ones on Craigslist)
I can also find CNC routers on amazon for $1,000, that can do the same thing as a CNC mill. I can find CNC mills on craiglist for cheap as well, but finding the space for it would be hard.

but you really don't need a milling machine. How did they make guns back in the 1800s? when they really only had lathes and old fashioned blacksmithing? If you mill the parts, you're probably going to need to heat treat the parts.

I was going to say that it looked like crap, i mean if you took your time you could make quite a nice gun for yourself if you wanted. Not a silly sub machine gun though.

>noooo!!!!! you cant just build these in your garage until you fill up your gun racks then become a full blown MIC powerhouse when the cia offers substantail amounts of money to buy them off you!!!

haha barrett go brrrr

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Why!? So you can hold them and feel good? you fat fucks have THE most tyrannical political system and all the tools to renew the tree of liberty but you would rather talk about black dicks while sharting in the mart

faggot

Just have like 4 of them

Not if you use a metal barrel.
Our rifles are basically made from plastic and as long as you don't melt them with continued fire they are reliable.

I state again. The dude who made that made it specifically in his shed for the sole and express purpose of telling government "if you ban guns, people will make this. Banning guns is pointless"

Ya did some research on gun in op. The most dangerous thing is a British man and his shed

I know a retired Submarine engineer who used to work on nuclear subs, he has a small combo mill/lathe
and he's trying to reverse engineer and machine a Luger pistol. those things have an insane amount of parts....just something someone can do with a $3,000 machine.
OP is truly a fag.

That is by no means the best home gun smithing has to offer

Why?

It's not like you need to disarm people over night. You could easily ban guns and then take them whenever you find them.