Trump is an incumbent president who has only gained popularity during his tenure. Biden has been hidden away while Trump is addressing America everyday. Once he’s revealed to the public eye Biden will be seen as a stuttering, blubbering boomer with no political platform while Trump dunks on him during debates. Biden will lose the interest of undecided voters of all demographics and some black supporters. Trump was already more popular with minority voters in 2016 than Romney in 2012. Post COVID America will include a Trump counterattack after almost 4 years of catching flak. An already failing MSM will continue to lose the following and trust of the American people. Impeachment will be exposed to a point where continuing to peddle it after the fact would be career suicide and make you a target of American mistrust. After the re-election of Trump, the DNC will fracture making anyone left of laissez-faire incapable of holding office. The start of a “new America” is the happening.
This is it, Yas Forums
>NM
>Blue
Shit map, mate.
I am so fucking sick of defeatists on our side, and leftists in the media telling us that Trump has gained no support and MIGHT win 270 electoral votes while getting blown out in the popular vote. This defeatist narrative is even being pushed on the Right recently. It's one thing to not get complacent, but if you convince yourself that everything Trump has accomplished and every failed Democrat hoax hasn't had a positive effect, you should then ask yourself what's even the point of supporting Trump. If we Trump supporters are always going to be limited to sparsely-populated rural states with dwindling populations, and we're having to save the majority of the country from themselves every four years, why bother? I refuse to accept the notion that Trump hasn't gained support, and I know I'll be proven right
NM is pozzed my man. Killary in 2016 and Biden’s more popular there now than she was then.
I think Trump will win but it'll be closer than this.
It will be bloomer time for those who want to see an objectively better America than what we’ve had for a while now. People know we wasted time, blood, and money in the Middle East. Trump shares that sentiment. Trump is like this on many topics (illegals, media, trade, reliance on other countries).
Worst case scenario WI and VA go blue. Anybody talking polls in April has no idea how useless those numbers are. Trump has gained popularity and that’s why CNN and other outlets refuse to show the entirety of his press briefings.
By the way, I think Trump could win massively in November.
>haha you're delusional! There were multiple polls in the last couple days with Trump losing to Biden!
Have you not figured out how this works?
>Trump suggests something that's unconventional, politically incorrect, or both (in this case it's reopening the country quickly)
>the media fearmongers and Trump's numbers temporarily drop
>time goes by, and his policy either proves to be a success or, if it doesn't get implemented, people realize it should have been
>Trump's numbers then go up
Also keep in mind that Trump isn't able to do his rallies. At his rallies before the Chinese virus showed up, data would pour out showing that 15-25% of the attendees were people who didn't vote in 2016, and a similar percentage were democrats (there might be some overlap). That indicates that Trump's base has expanded by around 20%, meaning the number of votes he receives this November will be many millions higher than what he got in 2016. And Joe Biden has been kept out of the spotlight, because when he is finally brought out it'll only inspire feelings of pity and sadness among Democrat voters. Also keep in mind that once the economy is reopened, America will experience the fastest economic growth since the 1950s
He's adopted pretty much the most popular positions from both sides- low taxes and strong military from the GOP and protectionism and high government spending from the Dems. In response to Trump taking positions that are wildly popular, the Democrats have taken the opposite position every time, and now they're the party clamoring for open borders, more troops in Syria, high taxes, etc. And yet somehow we're supposed to believe that after 4 years of nonstop economic growth (until now) and people realizing that he's not orange Hitler with nukes, he'll lose the popular vote and at best scrape by in WI and AZ?
The polls last time said the same idk man
Trump's victory is a foregone conclusion, the only question is how much he'll win by. I think the Dems know 2020 is a lost cause, why else nominate fucking Joe Biden
>An already failing MSM will continue to lose the following and trust of the American people
>will continue to lose the following and trust of the American people.
>Will continue
How in the fuck have the majority of Americans not come to the realization that MSM is beyond pozzed?
Hence the impending fracture of the DNC. Protests from socialists and “never Trump” sycophants will result in a dem exit for farther left policies along with the distaste we’re already seeing from more moderate/independent voters.
I don’t know if it’s a majority but a large amount of people do not trust the media. Nor should they. The shit they pulled with that Redfield guy today as well as the Surgeon General is further evidence that they cannot be trusted.
On paper, VA should be an easy win for the Dems. It has rapidly growing suburbs and a relatively young population. We're told that white collar suburban voters who used to be reliably Republican have PERMANENTLY abandoned the party because Trump is mean, vulgar, orange, etc. And that they've also embraced the Democrat party with open arms even though today's Dems would oppose almost every position held by the Mitt Romneys, George Bushes, etc who white collar suburbanites used to vote for overwhelmingly. But Trump could definitely win VA since one, I don't buy the narrative that suburban Republicans have permanently abandoned the party, and two, because Northam keeps finding ways to rile up the conservative voters in Virginia. I'd love to see it flip back, because after all it was the home of many of our founding fathers
Trump is always someone who can reverse the narrative whenever he wants. He practically does it everyday at this point. He doesn’t flip flop on policy but he gets his opposition saying one thing one day then the opposite thing the next. Living in WA I’d give anything to see my state be less pozzed.
>Hillary won NM in 2016
The margin Hillary won by was less than the number of votes Gary Johnson (the lolbert) got. She didn't even crack 50% of the vote
>Biden is more popular than her
According to who?
i have hope NV is voting Trump
People are losing it about this watered down immigration EO. Do you think it will have an effect on 2020.
I would love to see Trump win in a landslide btw. But I’m so blackpilled it’s hard for me to believe.
Maybe you should wake the fuck and take shit seriously and not pull the fucking Hillary Clinton thinking Trump has it in the bag.
A second term Obama who was less popular than he was in ‘08 won NM by 10 points. Hillary won NM by 8. In many of the states to have hosted the dem primaries Biden has proven to be more popular than Hillary. It would be great if NM flipped but I wouldn’t put a lot of stock into it unless I saw the race within the margin of error come October.
The media is losing it. A USA Today poll showed that it was popular with 8/10 Americans who participated.
>it's 2015
>be suburban Republican who voted for Dubya, McCain, and Romney
>you believe in low taxes, strong military, etc, and are a huge admirer of Ronald Reagan
>you're eyeing the Republican field and you think that Ted Cruz might make a good POTUS
>then Trump announces, and you're a little put off by him
>he's had multiple wives, he supports some Democrat policies, etc
>he gets the nomination anyway and you don't vote for him, since you think he's not a real conservative and you don't like his lack of experience
>now it's 2020, and Trump has implemented more of the conservative agenda than any Republican since Reagan
>the economy (was) doing well until recently, and everyone initially believed that 2 million would die from the Chinese flu- the economic shutdown was justified
>oh, but now you're riden' with Biden because Trump was a little off-putting in his demeanor and rhetoric
>you'll vote for Biden who was Obama's VP, and who has embraced every cultural Marxist policy of the left, favored a shutdown of the oil industry, and supports post-birth abortion
Are we really supposed to believe that the Democrats did well in the suburbs recently because suburban Republicans are actually turning Democrat? I think they were just nervous about Trump in 2016, and will shock the world when they vote massively for Trump in November
Tucker Carlson was shitting all over it last night because it let in foreign workers and Breitbart was reporting less than 10% of immigrants would be effected.
Obviously it’s a start but he’s gotta do more. Unless he’s counting on people not actually looking into it.
>he’s gotta do more
He isn't going to do shit about the real problem because his businesses fucking depend on them, the Us depends on them. It's too fucking late.
No, I think it’s all manufactured. Trump was a Democrat for the longest time so it makes sense that Reagan Republicans and anyone similar just opted out of 2016. I doubt a Biden with no political stances other than anti 2A, open borders friendliness, and ecofascist sympathizer will gain any serious conservative support.
The socialists won't do anything. Millennials and Zoomers are bipolar generations- there are the more rightwing, geterdone, nationalist-libertarian types and then there are the socialist, largely female/brown, gibsmedat types who just give up when things don't go their way. The socialists will just refuse to vote, the boomercrats will continue to dominate the party for another 20 years (Pelosi is fucking 80, the youngest boomers are only around 60) and the niggers will nominate a who's who of shitty candidates who appeal to southern negros on the basis of liking fried chicken, hot sauce and rap music.
waht you need to understand is that we will literally take any help. even doing nothing is better than whatever democrats had planned for us. ill take a 10% decrease or even absolutely no change, because i know as an absolute fact we'd be swimming with even more immigrants with a dem in charge.
we're all fucked, but at least a small decrease gives me a bit more time to prepare
I was confident that Trump would win even back in 2016. The Hillary people were confident she would win because their elitist news outlets kept telling them she would win. I'm confident that Trump will win, and that he'll win bigger than last time because nothing the Democrats has done actually makes them look good while Trump has spent the last 4 years being the most energetic and competent president we've had in decades (despite his "vulgar" rhetoric and "mean" comments). Either I'm right, or this is not the country I thought it was. If it turns out that the Democrats can launch hoax investigations and impeachments, and get shot down every time, against the backdrop of Trump pulling troops out of the Middle East and delivering a strong economy (everyone except the Democrat base knows he didn't "cause" this recession), and then the Democrats nominate a literal corpse and then still win or lose just barely, what's then what's the point? If the majority of Americans are braindead NPCs who need to be saved from themselves every 4 years via the electoral college by a collection of rural states with dwindling, ageing populations, then this country is doomed. I don't think that's the case though, at least not yet
No, seriously, has Biden even been seen in a month? Did he die from Corona?
And if Trump gets back the votes that went to the Lolbert, the Mormon guy, etc, that would make a lot of states competitive that aren't thought to be competitive this time. Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Minnesota, and Maine were all within the margin of Lolbert and/or McMuffin. Had it not been for them, Trump could very well have swept those states in 2016. The Dems are in for a rude awakening if those people come back to Trump
we dont have anything to worry about this year, but i do have worries in 2024. at some point, the democrats will absolutely make us pay for electing trump. thats waht im not ready for.
I agree with you 100% I have been telling people this constantly. Many of /our guys plan on sitting 2020 out because hurr durr Drumpf didn’t turn into Hitler and nuke Israel. All the boomers I know love Trump. I am just worried the constant negativity on our side is gonna wear people down. It’s also hard to tell if people are online are shills or genuinely demoralized.
4 more years of Trump is the best option for sure.
If you want the full truth, the NV of today is just a Californian satellite instead of the "strong cowboy state" it was 30 years ago. In 1940 there were only 100k nevadans, 95% white. Now there are over 3 million, 45% white. The white population is 14 times larger but there are so many niggers and beaners in Vegas. Unions everywhere.
HOWEVER Bernie lost and the Democrats have nearly killed the state by shutting it down and despite the "muh kemp" Trump is the only one advocating a re-opening. Historical data from Vegas indicates the city became almost red enough in 2016 to flip it all, we'd think in 2020 it would be ripe. But a lot of it rides on Dems not cheating as hard as they did in 2018 and the people of NV (LOOKING AT YOU, MEXICAN CULINARY UNION WORKERS) not voting as hard for the Democrats when the Democrats have tried to skullfuck the state into oblivion. The rural areas will shift even redder, as will Reno and Carson city. But LV is where the election will be decided.
He does have it in the bag, anyone disagreeing is absolutely retarded. Biden is literally sundowning on stage during a fucking virus/economic troubles. No one is going to elect an alzheimer's patient during times like these.
New Mexico voted for Hillary because 9% voted for Gary Johnson. Had it not been for him, NM would have been fairly close. And while Democrat turnout was trending upward as the primary process continued on (until coronavirus), Trump was getting record incumbent turnout at the same time. He's gained popularity and it's obvious if you're willing to see it
I would like to see more. It would also be nice if he was a bit more straight up with who is actually affected. I’m holding out on this first term being a groundworking term. There will be a huge call for China to get theirs after corona and Trump has been anything but nice to them. He now has the support of a majority of Americans to destroy the US dependence on China for the manufacturing of goods and replace it with US manufacturing.
>it's a start
Trump ALREADY suspended H1Bs, this EO is about GREEN CARDS. How the fuck do so many people comment about immigration issues and then don't realize what Trump is doing is banning H1B workers from getting green cards, making it easier to deport them further down the line?
>254686378
Fuck off and kill yourself, shill. We are trying to have an actual fucking discussion here. Filtered.
The states throwing their 206 votes to Biden should, hypothetically, be ashamed of themselves.
You are doing the same exact thing the Hillary supporters did in 2016. You are such a fanboy you think that he can't lose, that he is untouchable, but outside your bubble there IS still a chance that he could, no matter how small.
I think our best bet in 2024 is Tucker Carlson, unironically. In my opinion he could expand on the gains Trump has made with traditionally Democrat voters while holding onto muh suburban white collar republicans. While I think the trend of suburbs turning blue is vastly overblown, I think Tucker Carlson would be able to make gains in that demographic as well because he comes off as a very normal guy. If Tucker Carlson can sweep the white blue collar vote while expanding or holding steady among suburban voters, he'll win. But if he doesn't, we still have 2A
>texas
>red
good one mate
>Biden is literally sundowning on stage
now this makes me think. imagine if the presidential candidate debates occur at say, 10 AM instead of at night as they have always been. if that fucking happens, we know for a god damn fact biden is dementia'd
I suppose there is a chance he could lose, but given everything that's transpired in the last 4 years, the idea that Trump has somehow lost support or is barely holding his base doesn't add up to me. Like I said, either I'll be proven right or I'll find out that this isn't the country I thought it was
I still see blue VA but a red MN is very possible
>He does have it in the bag
and the Dem's thought she had it in the Bag in 2016 also.
Trump won because of one constituency: blue collar white workers because of his unrealistic promise to bring back manufacturing jobs and save coal.
Coal is economically uncompetitive even if you remove renewable subsidies. The only way coal is saved is if coal gets a subsidy; that will never happen.
Manufacturing jobs didn’t come back.
In fact, Trump did Nothing to help the blue collar white workers. The only part of the economy that saw a big boost was the stock market ( before coronavirus ) and that mostly helps mega corporations and investors in deep blue cities. And the other winners were tech companies, more deep blue cities.
If you look at where the economic gains went under Trump it was to Democrat controlled counties. And no, the woke millennials living there won’t switch sides.
The map OP posted is the exact inverse of the 2012 election, when Obama beat Pierre Delecto 332-206. At the very least I think Trump can outdo Obama's result in 2012, given how much better of a job he has done
>I'll find out that this isn't the country I thought it was
what exactly do you think the country is and how do people voting for a president change that view?
If the coal industry was uncompetitive, why does it account for the majority of America's electricity production? Surely subsidies can't explain that entirely. Also, what do you think the point was of USMCA, the Japan deal, the China deal, the upcoming Europe deal, etc?
Hillary barely lost and she was almost as comical of a bad candidate as Joe Biden. A male has inherently more chance of being elected so in my opinion the 2020 election will be close yet again even though it shouldnt be.
Fair enough. I guess will see. Like I said I’d be glad to see it happen.
2024 opens the door for Cruz I think. Him and Trump had their differences but Cruz losing was the best thing that could’ve happened to him politically. Cruz has gained an edge and that new edge paired with his Constitutionalist stance makes him a perfect post-Trump candidate.
You can be confident and smart enough to vote at the same time, friend.
>Non-American
>Opinion on American politics
“Good one mate”
Joe's going to be beaten so hard that I actually feel sorry for the ol' geezer.
you know im right you cunt
More would be nice. It’s frustrating they squandered his first two years not doing immigration. Hoping if we can take back the house something substantial will be done in his second term.
I’ve noticed a lot of normies waking up to the China problem. It is imperative we stop them people fail to realize the scale of 4th gen warfare these insects are waging against us. Not manufacturing in your country is retarded
>Trump is an incumbent president who has only gained popularity during his tenure.
Are you new to Yas Forums? Where are you seeing the enthusiasm for Trump that you were seeing when he was elected? /ptg/ is a cluster of people sticking their heads in the sand and calling everyone who disagrees with them a shill.
>”Oi cunt! Accept my opinion on the politics of a country I don’t live in!”
When I see the Democrats reflexively taking the opposite position of what Trump has, no matter how reasonable it is, I find it hard to believe that a majority of the country would vote for them. Trump has purposely adopted positions that are consistently popular in polls, even if he isn't. His positions on trade, immigration, withdrawing the Middle East, etc are all very popular. So when the Dems instantly switch from being a faux blue collar party to being a globalist, cultural Marxist party overnight, and then launch multiple attempts to overthrow Trump by investigations and impeachments and fail miserably, and then top it off by nominating a corpse as their presidential candidate, I simply have a hard time believing that they are still going to get the votes of 48% + of the American people. I could see Joe Biden losing by 5 or 6, but the notion that he's going to win the popular vote while being very competitive in the electoral college doesn't add up. If he does somehow manage to beat Trump, or at least come dangerously close, it'll tell me that the majority of this country literally braindead
> coal is majority of electricity
Your facts are a decade in the past. As is for everything Conservatives say. Always living in the past.