“You want to wake up in the morning and think the future is going to be great - and that's what being a spacefaring civilization is all about. It's about believing in the future and thinking that the future will be better than the past. And I can't think of anything more exciting than going out there and being among the stars.” — ELON MUSK, SPACEX
The true future of the European Man & Women is out there amongst the stars! Remember, the 14 Words does not specify where or when our survival is to take place; only that it must.
Welcome to /etm/. This is a place on Yas Forums to discuss everything space related(with a concentration on Mars). I normally post the general once a week every saturday between 8pm to 10pm UK time(I've decided to make a midweek thread today).
ALSO just a reminder; I'll be making a thread to cover the SpaceX manned flight to the ISS in May (set for the 27th)
If you are new here, these videos will get you in the mood for some discussion: >What Would A Million Person Mars Colony Look Like? youtube.com/watch?v=JaimO7nvzzQ
>Recommended Reading Project MARS: A Technical Tale, by Wernher von Braun The Case For Mars, Robert Zubrin. The High Frontier by Gerard O'Neill. Colonies in Space, by T. A. Heppenheimer. Rocket Propulsion Elements, Sutton. Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion, Gordon Coates. Space Mission Engineering, the new SMAD, Wiley, ed. Fundamentals of Astrodynamics, Bates, etc. International Reference Guide to Space Launch Systems, Steve Isakowitz. Mining the Sky, John Lewis. Rain of Iron and Ice, John Lewis. We Seven: By the Astronauts Themselves. Voices from the Moon, Andrew Chaikin. The Millennial Project, Marshall Savage. Modern Engineering for Design of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engines, David H. Huang. Mars trilogy, Kim Robinson The Martian Way, Isaac Asimov Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Heinlein Roving Mars, Steve Squyres The Heavens and the Earth, A Political History of the Space Age, Walter A. McDougall Solar Sails: A Novel Approach to Interplanetary Travel, Giovanni Vulpetti, Gregory L. Matloff, and Les Johnson Spacesuit: Fashioning Apollo, Nicholas de Monchaux
>"Faust" and the adjective "Faustian" imply a situation in which an ambitious person surrenders moral integrity in order to achieve power and success for a limited term.
NASA gets about 0.1% of the annual fed budget and they're always working on multiple projects. SLS has been a shitshow but that's mostly the fault of politicians, not NASA.
Luke Kelly
Foundation is very far future, has nothing to do with mars and is part of that weird Positivist Silver Age sci fi from the 60s. The Sterling books are his Shaper-Mechanist cycle and deal with terraforming as a weapon/reality show by post human combatants on Mars and various aspects of life in a developing, violent, competitive solar system.
Jeremiah Taylor
lol wot
Christian Wilson
wouldnt it be better to go to one of those moons with oceans under the ice if we're gonna shlep all the way out there anyway?
Isaac Morris
Sadly this is pure sci-fi since NASA does not have any way of shooting the massive lead encapsulated container that would be needed to pass the van allen belts into space with any significant weight left for cargo.
Unless there’s a rocket factory built on a massive space station this is never happening.
Gavin Hill
Didn’t trump say that America was going to Mars during his State of the Union? Did anything come of that?
Ethan Flores
Mars is much closer, has higher gravity, has enough atmosphere to allow aerobraking, and isn't orbiting inside a gas giant's radiation belt.
Colton Brooks
This Mars is primarily about survival, moons like Europa are about exploration and the search for life in the solar system
Samuel Moore
It's called the Artemis program now. It's moving along fairly well but the 2024 goal is going to be a squeeze if they manage it.
first you got to deal with the emancipated chimpanzee inside your own house shitting and pissing on the walls and floor and raping your wife before you think about leaving the front door, faggot with the jew's NWO still in charge of the planet your idealisms are going to end up being a bunch of niggers and spics on Mars getting funded with your own tax paying dollars to ship them pizza. fucking dumb cunt sage
Nathaniel Hall
>your idealisms are going to end up being a bunch of niggers and spics on Mars getting funded with your own tax paying dollars to ship them pizza.
Very unlikely. This gets brought up a lot. Firstly the journey to Mars is in no way comparable to the walk across the US border or the sail across the Mediterranean. Its fucking space. Secondly its vastly too expensive for most darkies.
