Vietnam defeat acceptance thread

Even John Bolton admitted we lost that war.
>He wrote in his Yale 25th reunion book: "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."

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Its called an economic victory, thats why theres mcdonalds and sex tourists over there now, more ways than one to fuck a gook.

American involvement was definitely a failure, but it's also stupid when people mistake not meeting their military goals with "getting their asses kicked by rice farmers."

850,000 vietcong were killed compared to 60,000 Americans. Again, this doesn't mean anything in terms of victory, but it's still something to consider when discussing the war. People get the impression that we lost because they were fucking us up, when it was more because of protests back home demanding we stop shipping people off to fight France's war on the other side of the world

It was a failed endeavor, but we killed the ever loving shit out of them, and torched their countryside

I dont feel it reflects badly on our war machine

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Fuck China, Fuck Chinks , Fuck Niggers, Fuck Jannies

You can’t lose a war that wasn’t actually a war

50,000 US soldiers dead to 1.5 Million Vietnamese dead I wouldn’t call that losing and they’re not even communist now

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*the local hippie communists won

pretty much this. We couldnt invade NV.

Also, Imagine what wouldve happened if we hadnt stopped them in Vietnam? That Indonesian waterway wouldve shut down alot of Western economies and the trade route was important. most people miss this lesson in geopolitics.

Based vietbro

its 58,000 user

because napalm can't patrol the ho chi minh trail

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so Soviets lost to Wehrmacht?
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>an economic victory, thats why theres mcdonalds
Do kebab shops mean Islam won?

>vietnam is now a 1st world country with the best tourism
>sucked off japan and china to get there

This teacher probably doesn't know but the United States has almost decimated the male population of North Vietnam.

Vietnamese never had a single front line against us that pushed us all the way back to Saigon. We just said "fuck it" one day to political pressure.

Uhmm sweetie Vietnam wasn't an entity in the 60s/70s. There where two factions, the north and south, supported by proxies. It was not a war on the Vietnamese people.

Bullshit. We didn't lose because it was never a war in the first place. We merely offered military and police aid to Vietnam to help fight off the communist criminals in the north who were supported by the Soviets.

true, if it had been Germans you were trying to exterminate your {media} wouldn't have pulled their punches

in a no holds barred scenario where the war machine is bombing hospitals and daycares as frequently as munitions stockpiles they would have not lasted 6 months.

>vietnam won
>all their major cities look like america now

>Vietnam defeat
-military
-political
Pick one

There where lots of south vietnamese riflemen casualties, and lots of those casaulties where civilians. It still overwhelmingly favors the United States in terms of KDR, but not to that extent.

>I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy.
because everyone else did, right?

>850,000 vietcong were killed compared to 60,000 Americans
ALWAYS leaves out ARVN deaths LOL

A central private bank was established that is beholden to the directives of the BIS, reflecting the whims of the Rothschild family.

I assure you, Vietnam lost. War is not about battle, deaths, conflict, et al - is about establishing control of a nation's money supply and issuance thereof. No exceptions.

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don't forget they could raise a farmboy from cradle to the AK for less money than the munitions cost which killed him.

So did the Germans at Dunkirk.

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source on this?

>Beat the piss out of North Vietnam for years.
>Sign a peace treaty, leave.
>North breaks treaty, invades and conquers south.
>Can't be arsed to go back and fight again.
>people try to claim you lost a war you signed the official end to.

US won on appeal
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If Kebab shops had a large enough capitalization in their foreign markets... then sure.
Vietnam is capitalist now, not communist. It's indisputable that the communists lost.

Stephen Mitford Goodson - A History Of Central Banking (4th Edition, March 2019).

>Gee willikers they are fighting back, i changed my mind i don't want to die in their heckin rice fields its not for me

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Vietnam is as "capitalist" as China, I guess China and US are best buddies and all of geopolitics just depends on whether a country has McDonalds or not.

Based rice farmers.

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yes. and mosques and jewish temples.

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China did aid the Viet Minh . China didn't want a US air and navy base on their border . Like in North Korea

America fucked up by not fighting Vietnam as a pure proxy-war like the Soviet Union did. Zero Americans should have died in that war, send the ARVN to defend their homeland from the get-go.

and now they make our shoes and underwear lmao

>that flag

Okay fair enough actually, the USA really screwed you guys over when you were just trying to clean up

is there a passage you could quote along the lines of : "after the armistice an agreement was reached to allow the bankers in"

Nah dead commies is on the house, free delivery service.

No shit you retarded fat obese fats actually probably hindered them if anything, you basically punished them if they tried to fight non-conventional means through their own non-conventional means since your generals were retarded boomers

Incorrect. A treaty was signed. The United States withdrew and then one year later NV broke the treaty and invaded SV.

This level of cope tho

I didn't realize American were working like slaves for pennies for kebab corporations... however in Vietnam they are working like slaves for American corporations. I can't wait for Canada to become 3rd world.

Giving the fact they weren't soldiers and mostly kids.
Lol at you.

Because ARVN aren't Americans and wouldn't represent America getting its ass kicked. Even looking at ARVN, they had 1/3 the casualties of the vietcong due to American support

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Simmer down, Boris, I agree with you.

Just not holding cities means they have to sit in the woods and die of malaria and dysentary. Very big issue they faced. At least 3x Americans would've died if they didn't have medivac.

Actually it was 1.5m dead gooks

Yeah, we lost WW2 too. How can any white man look at wars his people were drafted into against their will and killed off wholesale for a cause that didn’t benefit them? Every time the kike culls the white man, the white man celebrates.

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No, that's military deaths. Another ~150,000 civilians died.