Can some anons who where alive at the time tell me about it
Redpill me on ruby ridge
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Wasn't quite alive yet but have watched days worth of documentary footage about it. In my opinion, if you're looking to redpill someone the US Federal Government, it is the single most definitive event. Moreso than even Waco.
Straight, Indisputable Facts:
1) The US Federal government killed Randy Weaver's child upon contact, during a secret surveillance operation. They were in camouflage, and hiding. His soon, who was armed, saw these men hiding and fired at them. The Son was on Randy Weaver's property, and had total right to request identification from the agents. They refused to identify, and shot and killed the son.
2) The Sniper team associated with the FBI blew Randy Weaver's Wife's face off in front of him, and his remaining children. For the subsequent week following this event during the standoff, they directly addressed her during loudspeaker exchanges. Why? Because they thought she would be more agreeable as a woman, and have her children's interests in mind.
2a) Essentially, what this amounts to, is that as the FBI taunts the Weavers by directly addresses the wife and not Randy, the situation inside the home becomes so that Randy weaver is listening to loudspeaker requests for his wife while he watches her body decompose in the adjacent room.
2b) Corollary - the FBI sniper team was so incompetent, that they did not even realize that they had killed another member of the family. FOR ~8 DAYS.
Watching my bluepilled friends see these documentaries, and their eyes open wide with fear, realizing that their own federal government was the driving force and was apathetically complacent in this scenario is incredibly gratifying. In my mind, Ruby Ridge should be heralded as one of the single most unjust crimes ever committed by the federal government. Period.
Sure. What do you want to know?
What where the reactions of people on the far right, how did it shape pro white beliefs In the USA
Also if you were alive at the time when was the first you heard of it and were
>What where the reactions of people on the far right
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You’d have to talk to a boomer about that.
I suspect most believe it was the byproduct of the culture in the FBI.
That they were agents for Zog.
Im not a nazi or a white supremacist though. Thats just my take.
Anything else.
What are your political beliefs
>how did it shape pro white beliefs In the USA
You see that is a more nuanced question. The answer of course is that pro white beleifs are defacto illegal in the united states and make a person subject to extra judicial killing without a trial among other things.
The white nationalist movement to which weaver participated was a society of fringe peoples. They arent particularly bright or well educated and are often radicalized and violent.
This of course creates a legal tension. Where does the right to free speach and association end? Well when it becomes a criminal conspiracy right?
Sounds like glowniggers always have and will be golem
Im a cultural anthropoligist as a hobby. I was raised in a cult. it made me fascinated with systems. And the role of those systems in manufacturing outcomes.
That’s interesting, what cult. Also not to be rude but I’d didn’t answer the political question. Did you just admit to being on pol for research?
But you*
Not at all.
You cant allow a bunch of fringe heterodox thinkers to dictate policy through violence. You cannot allow them to secede either.
They either have to be encorporated or disolved. The intervention that was chosen was infiltration and subversion. Cal Sunstein argued that government agents should be planted to point out the flaws in their ideologies.
The massacre @ Ruby Ridge. One story told by every gay ass white supremacist group around. He wasnt associated w AN or anyone else. He was attacked because the ATF needed to be relevant at the time. End of story.
What happens when your views are declared heterodox? Who decides what is heterodox, sounds like your still in a cult m8
I’m a lolbert for disclosure? Are my views heterodox? I believe in the ballot box?
tl;dr yeah the government was probably wrong but Weaver was a legit nutjob with an Uncle Ted lifestyle who invited surveillance
Pol is unique because it is allowed a modicum of freedom. Most intitutions of higher learning have a thing called tenure so that a professor may engage in unorthodox ideas without fear of reprisal. This freedom and responsibikity is given to them because of the value it can derive.
/pol is give freedom also. But in another sense. The kind where enough rope is given to hang oneself.
The purpose of that freedom is immaterial. The salient point is that it exists.
Do i sound like im still in a cult?
Yes you do frankly. You think people who don’t follow your cult (modern orthodoxy) should be hunted down and killed extrajudicially and not even allowed to run away or create separate communities. You sound evil
You seem very upset. I only used heterodox to avoid a prejoritive. But many fringe beliefs are non sensical.
One guy was arguing to me onetime that the basis if all law was a common law jury, and if he could gather 20 people together to form a common law jury they could indict and incarcerate anyone.
Of course thats not orthodox.
You still have yet to answer your political beliefs. I am not upset but you can’t even give me a answer to what heterodox means? The Jews heterodox thinkers in Germany, do they deserve their fate?
Thats not what i said.
Youre interperation is disignenious.
It isn’t, you said white nationalism was de facto illegal and its followers were hunted down. When I said this was bad you relied saying it was good and necceary, people like you create radicals.
Heterodoxy is always dangerous user. It doesnt matter who or where you are. It is not a matter of deserving or not.
The heterodoxy of Martin Luther king was dangerous. It got him killed. It is now orthodoxy.
So you just blindly agree with any orthodoxy currently in place. Sounds like you were a NPC programmed by a cult and deprogrammed to be just as fanatical in the opposite of the spectrum
>genocide is okay as long as they are heterodox
>What where the reactions of people on the far right, how did it shape pro white beliefs In the USA
Youre question was about people on the far right and how it shaped their beliefs.
I was postulating.
Orthodoxy is neither wrong nor right. Though it can be either or both.
It is a state of acceptance.
I’m sorry, you should have said, “this was the far right movement felt happened or this is how I think they felt”
Wow you really were raised in a cult. It eerie that I can tell through text