There's nothing morally wrong about torturing animals, eating animals alive or eating dogs or cats or bats
There's nothing morally wrong about torturing animals, eating animals alive or eating dogs or cats or bats
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Yes there is, pedo.
Unless you're a vegan, you're a hypocrite if you in any way believe animals have rights
>nooooo not the poor heckin doggos and kots!
>*force feeds chicken until it's legs break*
>only vegans believe in human treatment of food animals
that's where you're wrong, pedo.
i hope you and your mother suffocate in your sleep tonight
Even animals kill their food before they eat it. You have to be a sociopath to behave like this.
Okay, Chang.
>moral relativism
No thanks
Why?
digits confirm, praise Emperor Xi cunts
why?
>op has already ragequit
If the animal you're eating causes a global pandemic because it's asshole is a disease pit, then you don't have the right to eat it.
In fact, you should be shot in front of your peers and your corpse left to rot in the street as a reminder to others not to repeat your stupid ideas.
I didn't say they're the only ones. I'm saying non-vegans who care are hypocrites
Why do you care about the treatment of specific animals when every animal you eat is treated just as poorly? If more people admit they simply don't give a shit, then vegans wouldn't have a leg to stand on
Inb4
>Muh dog
Dogs are property. I would be mad if someone destroyed my car but it doesn't mean I inherently feel hurt if cars are being destroyed worldwide.
There's nothing morally wrong about torturing humans, eating humans alive or eating men or women or children.
>Artificially injecting meaning into life due to your own inability to cope without that illusion.
No thanks
Ok chang. Reminder that China has no federal laws banning the mistreatment of animals.
It's legal to do the shit chinks do to animals. If you call the police on someone flaying animals alive in the middle of the street they can't do anything.
In the West if a lab or slaughterhouse isn't giving enough pen space or a worker smacks around some animals they're fined, charged, imprisoned, and the business is fined, has its license revoked, and is forcibly shut down.
If you feel that way, fine.
There isn't anything morally wrong with it. FOR YOU.
Now, if you would like to go out into the world and test it, feel fucking free to do so.
I bet you will change your mind really quickly.
Now think about why the same thing isn't true for animals who do this.
I get what you're saying, but... your argument is shit.
Alright mutt, you don't have to remind me of anything. I'm just sick of this selective love for particular animals.
Eating a hamburger is sacrilege in certain parts of the world for God's sake.
>or eating dogs or cats or bats
Or humans.
>t. Jao Castro Qing
See here: Again, this argument is demonstrably shit.
Find a better one.
How would you argue that I don't have the natural right to decapitate you then? You wouldn't be able to stop it, and after all you're just an animal that feels pain and clearly posseses no cognitive abilities
Humans have a social contract they can reciprocate, animals do not. This is a 2 digit IQ argument.
What if I don't want to reciprocate? Everything's relative
Causing innocents to suffer is always wrong, I'm not against meat eating but causing more suffering than is necessary to raise and kill the animal should be a crime.
I don't understand why i should change my mind about metaphysical concepts just because the most abundant game in town has a self-preservation instinct.
>artificially injecting meaning into your disagreement with normal people to cope with being a nihilistic loser and protect the illusion that is your ego, which also shields you from acknowledging the hypocrisy of your own arbitrarily meaningful beliefs that let you go on living
Oh no no no universalist fags we got too cocky
If you fail to respect another person's right to life then you'll go to prison or be murdered, dumbass.
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>Chinese culture too hard for mutts and western snow monkeys
I'm actuarry ashamed I thought you "guys" were smart?
its actually kinda hot
>advocates veganism
>targets regulated western farms and chick-fil-a instead of the third world subhumans burning and skinning animals alive for kicks
epic shitposting you're like a regular college libtard
Eating dogs and cats is extremely fucked up because they evolved over the past 5000 years for human companionship and anyone who is cruel to dogs and cats is generally a nutcase, but be that as it may, I don't condone consuming them for food.
My problem is with bashing them over the fucking head with a wrench until they die in the most painful way possible or boiling them alive or setting them on fire while still conscious.
Eat them if you want, but do you have to prepare for consumption like a fucking homicidal maniac?
I do condone***
VegenGains shill
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN SQUIDERINO!
>MUH POOR SCORPIORINO!
>WE HAVE TO BOMB CHYNA TO SAVE THE CENTIPEDEIORINIOROS!
Some do, many dont. Hyenas for instance will take down a prey animal and eat it literally ass first as it is screaming bloody murder.
The whole idea in general of eliminating all suffering on the planet is the most ridiculous premise in the first place.
We can try as hard as we want because we are conscious self aware beings, but suffering is simply a part of the equation of existence as long as we physically exist and entropy remains a thing.
Show me a single post where I advocated for veganism?
Based chink also checked !
lmao chinks are not human
I'm not a vegan, you absolute retard.
ok jew/christian (same thing)
>There's nothing morally wrong about torturing animals
Oh, but there is. If you encourage people to torture animals, then you're encouraging them to shit on things less powerful than them. The only acceptable action against weaker creatures is killing for consumption. Period. You encourage any other type of behavior, you're encouraging sociopathy. If people start getting a kick out of torturing animals, they eventually will get a kick out of torturing anything. Soon, society devolves into torturing those who are weak - including children and boom, no more society.
if you dont see the difference between factory farming and pulling an animals intestines out by hand right before you cook them while theyre alive or are fine with torching an animal while theyre alive
then user you truly are lost
Yes there is. It's damaging to the moral nature of men and desentizes you to harming social beings.
If it weren't for animal abuse chinks would be a lot less prone to abusing other chinks.
eat meat and raw eggs, drink raw dairy and you'll weather the storm just fine.
>Even animals kill their food before they eat it. You have to be a sociopath to behave like this.
Exactly. This is why it's morally wrong to torture creatures for pleasure.
They're like off-brand Japanese
It's like, you go to the store, can't afford a Japanese, so you settle for buying a Chinese.
>slippery slope fallacy
>The whole idea in general of eliminating all suffering on the planet is the most ridiculous premise in the first place.
This.
>We can try as hard as we want because we are conscious self aware beings, but suffering is simply a part of the equation of existence as long as we physically exist and entropy remains a thing.
Do you think that empathy evolved via natural selection because psychopathic klods got insta-stomped out of existence as soon as they revealed their face?
Plenty of kids kill ants and other insects and they grow up fine. Stop this fallacy.0
>There's nothing morally wrong about torturing animals
I disagree I believe that it's an evil thing to do
Slippery slope is not a fallacy.
user I appreciate the enthusiasm but that'll just spread more disease.
Checked. There is also nothing morally wrong about making men eat shit
Vegan here.
It is the biggest red pill you will ever take. Humans are animals too. Its about gaining empathy for creatures not so different from yourself.
Once you make the connection, it cant and wont be unseen. You will be vegan for life.
Lower iq folks have a tougher time connecting to nature and having empathy though. Dumber people are less likely to go vegan.
That's a bit more than a slope. This nigga took us from the peaks of Everest straight down into the 9'th ring of Hell's depths of depravity trying to defend his irrational belief.
>slippery slope fallacy
Not a fallacy user. It requires great self control to torture animals, but stay away from torturing children. Look at all the abusive parents in the world. Are they bad people? Nope. They just don't have any other model of child rearing. What happens when children in a society get tortured? They grow up believing only the strongest survive. Eventually, you have evolution naturally selecting the physically strong and emotionally retarded children. If you want your civilization to regress back to being a bunch of niggers, sure, encourage torture. If not, then best not to encourage the average person to torture weaker creatures.
MAKING them?
Yes.
Allowing them to do it with a willing partner?
Perfectly fine.
How the fuck is that a slippery slope? You do become desensitized to the abuse, pain, and suffering. You become desensitized when you watch the same porn over and over again and it's not longer arousing. You become desensitized to certain flavors, if you were raised eating spicy food, you don't mind it, but if you fed to someone else who wasn't, they would find it extremely disgusting. You even become desensitized to outright killing other human beings, ask anyone who served in the military during a time of war, they all say the first life they took destroyed them, but then after doing it repeatedly, it just became their job with no emotion behind it.
I have a tremendous connection to nature. I've worked as a farmer my whole life and my parents own a cabin in the woods. That's precisely why I see no problem with killing animals and why nobody would if they actually had to kill them themselves to live.
>It requires great self control to torture animals, but stay away from torturing children.
You wanna know the point I figured your argument was bullshit?
there is nothing wrong with eating humans, either.
I came across this shit yesterday, reported it, but apparently a lot of other people noticed and reported it too and theres still more killing of sea creatures in her youtube videos. Absolutely no clue why this is so and evermore why i'm coming across fucked up shit like every day regardless of whatever platform.
Again, plenty of kids torture insects. I would bet my left nut you killed a few ants for pleasure when you were young. 99% didn't grow up into murderers.
Yeah... It actually is the other way around, people that are already sociopaths are the only ones who enjoy torturing animals that can clearly feel and express pain.
People aren't going to magically become that because you give them the option to... The option is already there for the vast majority of people and most of them simply don't do it.
"Muh slippery slope fallacy".
Fuckers like you are why we now have trannies running around.
"Dude it's not an illness they're human too!" -> "Why do you care if they're being openly degenerate about fucking each other in the ass it's not like they're trying to fuck you" -> "Why do you care if they're trying to fuck you it's flattering to get hit on" -> "Your kids have to learn about homos in kindergardten or they'll grow up to be bigots like you" -> "Dude why do you care if they marry" -> "Bake that cake you bigot" -> "Trannies aren't mentally ill" -> "Trannies are actually real women" -> "Your kids have to learn about trannies in kindergardten or they'll grow up to be a bigot like you" -> We are here. -> "Dude Pedos aren't mentally ill."
Spare me your inane bullshit you subhuman faggot.
Figures a bugman wouldn't be able to differentiate between insects and mammals.
The fact you think its ok to murder a sentient being unnecessarily makes you sound far more lost to me. You and the person you responded to are essentially the same person.
>Vegan here.
veganism is a denial of the dietary needs of humans, enjoy your atrophying functions and smug sense of moral righteousness
There's nothing morally wrong about genociding the chinese.
>apples and oranges
Take your meds
So you are one of those moral relativism fags, right?
What is morally wrong or right is just what a mass herd thinks it is.
Alright noone else is gonna ask I guess so what the fuck are those things
I think empathy is simply a mammalian response to encourage humans to protect their own and not self destruct the species. Not really sure why it developed, haven't studied evolution that closely....
Probably why racism is an inborn thing in people as well, because for quite a long time we didn't understand that different color people were not a separate species from us.
>Again, plenty of kids torture insects
it's something children sometimes do until they reach moral maturity, it's why we don't prosecute children in the same was as adults if they commit crimes, this has been common sense for a long time fren
How do porn and spicy food even begin to equate to simply not viewing all animals as special like we do in the West?
I get your point, but do you understand that to any Hindu, or most of the people in India, for each and every hamburger we consume we are their equivalent to devil-worshiping gay hedonists to Christians?
Your analogies do not make sense. You cannot equate it to abuse, because they don't' consider it abuse.
And for the record, the slippery slope comes in when you insist that society MUST reach an extreme, simply because we decide to allow something minor. In this case, the entire collapse of society just because dogs and cats are allowed as food.
That's a slippery slope.
I already covered this, but please keep spewing it.
gooey ducks duh
Imagine thinking that people don't have to behave accordingly to their age
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with it. Glad you agree.