A citizen of the United States was murdered by the people who were supposed to protect him. Was it justified? No. We are heading close and closer towards a fascist goverment and I promise you Yas Forums the pendulum will swing the other way
Even in an extreme situation (standoff, shootout, etc) a gun isn't the right tool for the job. The objective should never be to kill the perpetrator. It should be to get them in a court room so due process can take place. By letting law enforcement carry, we've skipped the whole right to trail by jury thing.
I hate seeing the news coverage where the hour long car chase has finally halted and the upside-down suspect's car is surrounded by several officers with their sites trained on the driver door. Why? What logic leads you to believe that a firearm will help in this situation? An ambulance is the correct response. Just because someone is avoiding capture doesn't mean they intend to harm a police officer. What evidence do you have that the suspect is capable of lethal force? If they do start firing, seek cover, wait for backup. They'll run out of ammo eventually anyway. You've got numbers on your side.
I concede that there are cases were you have to go in guns blazing, but those are so few and far between. Your average cop writing speeding tickets and responding to domestic disputes doesn't have to be equipped a thing designed for death. Leave that to special teams, swat, etc, only used on an as needed basis. "As needed" being determined by panel or committee, chief, some impartial 3rd party. Not the person who's in the heat of the moment. People tend not to react rationally in high stress situations.
There's the argument that they need to carry for protection. Well, that's not how protection works. Armor is protection. Police should be defensive, not offensive. The same principle as "innocent until proven guilty", the cop shouldn't be pointing the gun unless there's already one pointed at them. People have the power. I know there's the 21 foot rule, but, I mean, how does that apply in the every day? Does that mean if I'm checking out at the grocery store and a cop is inline behind me I should have a gun to my head? You can't treat citizens like that. If you assess that there's a threat then keep your distance, be careful. Don't draw on them because, again, you're not their to kill, you're there to bring them in.
Joshua Brooks
kill yourself child fucker
Gavin Diaz
This. In an orderly white society, we could have armed citizens and (generally) unarmed constables.
>who were supposed to protect him Wrong. The police are not supposed to protect people, the police are there to protect the system. People in a group are the system, not individual people.
Luke Cox
>kill yourself child fucker
lol what is your countries age of consent?
The advantage has to be given to the public. We are nation of the people. Police are be peacekeepers, public servants. Lethal force don't serve those agendas. In the majority of encounters the accused knows if they don't comply things will just get worse. They don't need to stare down a barrel to comply. For the exceptions, the criminal may have the edge, but wining the battle is not the same as the war. One person can't fend off the powers of a nation. Only after careful review should lethal force be authorized. Not by in-the-moment power trippers. Not that all are, but we're human. It happens and will continue to happen. Lethal force on the streets is against everything American justice stands for. Police are for justice.
Eli Rogers
little kiddie diddler neck yourself
Jacob Robinson
>crazed gunman running rampage like every Saturday in shartland >cops have no firearms
You're a fool. Remember what country youre in? Where you can find a mac-10 or fully automatic rifle with extreme ease? The police need to be armed for when that happens. They need the gun for when your local crackhead, Dblock pulls a gun on them. I wish i could tell you "this saves lives" but its more like "this preserves order" Arms keep peace user.
Kayden Rogers
Civilians should have guns, but cops shouldn't. If they want guns, they can bring them from home and follow the same rules as everyone else.
Austin Parker
In an extreme situation like a standoff or a shootout, the criminal is trying to kill the officers. What do you expect them to do? They're not there to hold your hand. They're there to maintain law and order. With a weak police force, our already bad crime rate would skyrocket. Waiting for backup would just cost police lives. If you're resisting arrest you're asking for them to use force. If you're innocent, it won't help you to do so, just make your case in court and avoid getting hit with an extra charge. Based
Aiden Wright
The way police deal with aggression is generally the "one step above" rule to keep them in control of an aggressive suspect. Suspect swings on cop, gets tased, suspect pulls knife on cop, gets tased, suspect pulls out firearm, gets shot. Its about maintaining control and dominance when you are dealing with an apprehensive person who would otherwise break laws and cause disorder and injure the police.
With the attitude the idiotic youth in our country have, I believe they should be better armed.
Nathan Allen
Lol he says as he jerks off to government sanctioned child pornagrapghy anime. Maybe a superior asian country will help you guys. Something like China
Order them to put their hands behind their head, etc. If they refuse add it to the charges. If they run, chase. If they get away, that sucks, but regroup and put together a strategy to re-apprehend. They can't hide forever and you get a better cash out in the end with all the charges they rack up.
Julian Perez
I wish you were a cop and I, a nigger. I’d shut you up real quick by popping you in the face OP
cops are actively encouraged to use guns more and more.
Elijah Jones
Bro you try that shit and tell me how it works because it won't.
Jason Evans
It sounds like you have a very poor concept of how our law, police, and how our criminals operate. Youre describing a perfect world and i lile the vision of it, but its just not realistic to do in the USA.
Ryder James
don't be dumb, getting arrested in japan is the worst thing that can happen to you especially as a foreigner there is no due process there, They will keep you locked in isolation for 3 weeks for every charge you receive before you get an arraignment and you're not allowed to have a lawyer present when police are interrogating you
most people just admit to crimes they didn't commit just to escape the torture
Lincoln Butler
US cops should not be psychopaths. Military police in Brazil, most precisely Sao Paulo, aka your everyday street cops, walk around with ARs. They are loved by the population and usually very friendly, even in scenarios where they are searching you.
>m-muh third world shithole!!!!!!!
Say what you want, I'd rather live in Ethiopia with my police than in the best place in the US with yours. I actually look forward to becoming military police and the way the cops treat their citizens in the US, and are backed by the law to do it, simply isn't right and there's nothing you can say to justify it.
Isaiah Gomez
>when youre trying to help your mom mix the batter and you can't reach the counter Maybe they need to stop throwing themselves into situations they're too short to safely handle
Nathan Brooks
No, they need better training to avoid lethal shooting.
Ryan Foster
The fact that your cops have to walk around with rifles speaks volumes
Jeremiah Gray
I can think of 2 organizations off the top of my head other than the regular police that the state will bring in specifically to kill people. There would be no drawback to disarming police.
Wyatt Scott
There's no such thing as "not lethal" shooting. A gun is not a tazer it is a tool to bring death. Using it to injure someone is just begging for a huge lawsuit. When a cop decides to pull a trigger, he is ending someone's life, there's no in between
A cop trains to be deadly accurate. My uncle had to do training regularly. Know what they need to get in order to pass their shooting practice? 97 out of a 100.
With that skill a cop should have no problem with either A) shooting a weapon out of a criminals hand or B) shooting them in a non lethal area like the leg or side stomach.
Will they be messed up? Yes. But they are alive. and for a board that is staunch pro life you think this would not be a hard concept to grasp
Jaxson Turner
This is the stupidest thing I've read all day.
Charles Martin
>Legs is a non-lethal area You just proved how much of an idiot you are. There's a reason cops don't aim for the legs when targeting "non-lethal" areas. The legs have some of the largest arteries in the body and being shot there can cause you to bleed out VERY quickly.
Brandon Jones
OP you must live an a predominantly white area. Cops carry guns because they interact with niggers, it's as simple as that. Niggers are extremely violent at best, and at worst they will attempt to kill cops when even the dumbest person in the world can see that it's not only a bad idea, but it's utterly futile and will only make things worse. The gun is also not there to incapacitate, it's for the officer's self defense.
When the car is flipped over, what they're worried about is that the guy will crawl out packing and shoot out of desperation.
Mason Perry
This has to be a troll
Jordan Turner
cops aren't your friends. they aren't pro-white. they carry guns to kill people who resist. they protect property of the rich and politicians they dont give a fuck about you.
Chase Hernandez
The perpetrator should be killed by cops, if not killing them would endanger the lives of innocent bystanders >inb4 cops should be trained to shoot legs / non lethal points that is an argument in the worst direction as it basically means officers should be able to maim people when non-lethal force is required and is strictly worse than limiting firearms to lethal force
Andrew Morris
>and then everyone hug and rainbows and unicorns came out to play there's a reason liberal shitholes like california and europe have 2 to 5 times the violent crime the US average
