There is clear evidence that prayer does not work despite the Bible promising prayers will be answered.
There is clear evidence that humans invent gods. Humans have invented so many gods that the default assumption should be that a god is a supernatural entity invented by humans. Christianity would need solid evidence that the Jewish god is an exception to this rule but there is no such evidence.
There is clear evidence that religions and gods are propagated through culture by infecting children, and no evidence that they are propagated by gods.
There is clear evidence that Christianity has evolved as human understanding of the world has changed whilst a real, God-given religion, should never need to change.
There is clear evidence that humans on this planet have unequal access to Christianity so, if Christianity were true, billions would be condemned to hell for no fault of their own. This contradicts the Christian notion that God is omnibenevolent.
There is clear evidence that the Bible, supposedly inspired by God, is liberally sprinkled with the type of errors we would expect from its Iron Age authors but would not expect from the creator of the universe.
Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous.
There is clear evidence that the arguments presented for the existence of the Jewish God are logically flawed—all of them have been shown to be unreliable. If this were not the case, all honest and intelligent people would accept that God exists, just as all honest and intelligent people accept that black holes exist.
All that is left for Christians is faith and their feelings. We know that faith and feelings can be used to believe in any god at all—including non-existent gods. So faith and feelings cannot help us determine if Christianity is true.
Don't Christians realize it's all fake by now?
this is usually the stuff that comes from someone who has never opened the bible in his life and instead relies on athiest youtubers to explain it to them
it's parables to live a humanist life
the D&D superpower shit is for the people that need 'the carrot or the stick' treatment to behave themselves
athiesm is a religion as well, there are only 2 options when you keep asking where did God or where did the universe come from, either God is outside of of the universe and is infinite (he just is and doesnt have a begining, ie I AM) or the universe created itself and was itself infinite
you say that the universe is independently existant and i say God (I AM) is self existing
Meh just give up on trying to convince religious people let them worship their sand nigger god it really isn't going to effect you.
your brain is designed in such a way that you can stay forever full of shit and bullshit yourself forever. its more efficient for survival of the DNA
so? who cares what u say nigga
Fpbp.
>b-b-but, s-science proves prayer can't talk! muh talking snake, desert fairy tales!
kys, OP
who cares. I love christianity.
This religion creates cute naive christian girls (even fake christians, eg. thots that just wear cross necklaces.) which are vulnerable to my manipulation and coercive deception that opens their legs and allows me to plant my seed, after then abandoning to their own demise and turmoil. Fake or not, I hope it never goes away.
in order for something to cause something it needs to be before the instance and if "time" has its start in this universe than the atheistic big bang
is a paradox however God created this universe as a "container" for time, space and matter meaning he is outside of it and can logically cause it to be
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
litterally first sentence of the first page of the Bible
I disagree about prayer not working. When you pray either the situation will change or you will change how you feel about the situation. It’s not a magic trick it’s how the world works
>God
The name of the god of Judeo-Christians is actually Yahweh. Jews and Christians believe that their god's name is Yahweh. Jews and Christians worship Yahweh. That's the name of the god of the Bible.
Nice straw man bro. Literally nobody says the universe created itself. But let's say for a moment that you believe God has always existed and I say the universe always existed. Currently, I can show that the universe exists (let's not bring solipsism into it) and you cannot show that a God exists. By your own logic, you have to be an atheist unless you concede that you just want to believe in a God regardless of proof.
>There is clear evidence that prayer does not work despite the Bible promising prayers will be answered.
you may not be happy with the evidence presented so far about the existance of a spiritual world, and there being means to connect to it. but can you, as a rational, scientific person reject the posibility of it existing outright?
in that way religious people are doing experiments over and over, and trying to learn more about this field, and one maybe you too will be convinved of the findings.
>There is clear evidence that humans invent gods. Humans have invented so many gods that the default assumption should be that a god is a supernatural entity invented by humans. Christianity would need solid evidence that the Jewish god is an exception to this rule but there is no such evidence.
>There is clear evidence that religions and gods are propagated through culture by infecting children, and no evidence that they are propagated by gods.
the pagan gods of the past have been wiped out, where as christianity is the dominant religon on the planet, both it terms of military might, technology, economy, and so on. clearly if a god were to be real he would be blessing the christians
>There is clear evidence that Christianity has evolved as human understanding of the world has changed whilst a real, God-given religion, should never need to change.
a message can only be so long. you can't go to a zoo, to talk about the conditions of the workers there, and then complain that the conversation never mentioned dinosaurs
part 1/?
A lot of so-called Christian beliefs are contradicted by the Bible. It's not a consistent belief system. Christians perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to make their modern sensibilities align with some of the more problematic parts of the Bible
The Big Bang has actual evidence like cosmic microwave background radiation
15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Or don’t you know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”b 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in spirit.18Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a man can commit is outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.c
>In the beginning God
This is the Jew-god called Yahweh, not God.
thats not what im talking about, im talking about the reason for the big bang
yes but how would the cause for the big bang be "God" specifically?
Why is it so easy to picture you as an overweight neckbeard
Atheism is not a religion. It's the absence of faith in any gods
Very Jewish tendencies you are displaying, you have demonstrated that you are indeed not suited for planting your seed and all your decedents deserve irl Auschwitz.
>There is clear evidence that humans on this planet have unequal access to Christianity so, if Christianity were true, billions would be condemned to hell for no fault of their own. This contradicts the Christian notion that God is omnibenevolent.
all humans come from adam and eve. thus all humans have had knowledge of god and many have rejected him throught history. just like we are punished for the sins of our ancestors and are rewarded for their good deeds, so too are the people today.
when christ went to the land of the dead he took out those who deserved to come into heaven. and we don't know for a fact how god treats those who died with no knowledge of christ, but as paul says it is enscribed on their hearths, so if nothing else they can still be judged by that
>There is clear evidence that the Bible, supposedly inspired by God, is liberally sprinkled with the type of errors we would expect from its Iron Age authors but would not expect from the creator of the universe.
well if you think so, fine, don't believe the book is 100% truth then.
the bible is just a tool of the church. it is not the end all be all authority. the athority lies with the people who were with jesus, and the churches they established. the teachings were spred by word of mouth before they were complited into ghospels, letters and so on. men are fallible, there are many bible versions today, some more fake than others, that doesn't mean the core of the message isn't true
if paganism is real then why are jews central to our entire world as it seems and why are the elites "lucifarians" if budhism was real the jews should be completly irrelevant... but theyre not because its just as the Bible says
Zecharaiah 8:12
And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.
how in the wolrd would anyone kno that? he willed it into existance? how would this just happen randomly just because? how is that more logical to you?
There isn't any compelling evidence that prayer works. The evidence is equal to that of flat earthers claiming gravity doesn't exist because they have shown that denser fluids "seek the bottom" which "explains" away gravity.
Ok if you had made that exact argument 600 years ago, you'd be supporting Islam. If you make it in 200 years from now, you'll be supporting non-religion and/or Islam again.
Those holy books claim to be the end all be all of morality and a complete history of the world. If you go to a zoo and you don't see any dinosaurs, chances are they aren't claiming to teach history. The holy books of the Middle East claim exaxtly that and get it about as wrong as one would expect people to get it 2000 years ago.
Wait I meant to word that better , Im just saying why would the cause for the big bang be your God specifically.
athiesm is the belief in a self existing universe and random chance that rocks rubbing together and water and lightning (like on tv) made dna apear
Jesus is for real. Man is just forsaken. Ever whonder why shit goes crazy after something great is being discovered by an individiual who dares to push boundarys just for others to manage to fall into the same pit they came out of.
>does not understand the power of prayer
Good luck staying poor
>you may not be happy with the evidence presented so far about the existance of a spiritual world, and there being means to connect to it. but can you, as a rational, scientific person reject the posibility of it existing outright?
I think there are Nazi-Cyborg-Unicorn-Overlords that control the world. You may not be happy with the evidence presented so far about their existence, but can't reject it because there is a possibility they exist.
because, ive personally prayed and asked God to show me why Christianity is right and he has, if you look up the babylonian religion based on nimrod his wife semiramis and their son tamuz, you will see that all religions are litterally based on this one "god king" who happens to be the one who commisioned the building of the tower of babel and is also named "Gilgamesh" the masons dont call their god "the grand Architect" for no reason
Its real, faggot
Yeah, bro. Financial wealth is what Jesus and praying are all about. Nailed it.
>I prayed for Half life 3 and got nothing!
>prayer
Is the prayer biblical? Are you asking for non-scriptural things? Are you right with God?
>gods
The funny thing is that all the pagan gods are similar, because they all came from tower of Babel and then they spread out around the world when God confused their language.
>unequal access to Christianity
That issue was already addressed by Paul in Romans 2:13-15, they will be judged by the law in their conscience:
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
>errors
The Bible has no errors.
>God killed his son
Jesus is God and deliberately gave his life as the perfect lamb for our sins leading to salvation.
No they don't they're scared that the jew in the sky will put their souls in hell.
Even though they have no souls, none of us have them, unless you're from some very unlikely bloodline that kept the Germanic relay race of ancestor worship and therefore soul transferrence alive by only giving them names of their own kin and not hebrew names like Mary, Joseph or Michael.
Which makes the "the jews of today are really edomites" gambit pointless too.
Doesn't matter if jews are real or not, you lost your soul if you didn't get your true ancestor, and there were no mary josephs or michaels or sarahs before heebs came over.
christianity = rationalization to accept all those jews, fake or not, in your nation and tribe.
Well his prayers are partially answered now.
>Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous.
this is a long story but i'll try to keep it breaf with a pasta
god created everything, god owns everything, god IS life
when adam and eve rejected god they were rejecting life, so there were consequences
same with the people at the time of noah, god gave them a Biiig flood that killed them
but god was like "that shit sucks, i love humans i don't wanna kill them" and so he was like "i will never do it again, and to remind myself i will use the rainbow a symbow", the raindow sympolizes a bow pointing upwords, he was saying if people are sinning again he will take his life instead
that is later elaborated on when god asks abraham to kill his own son (to see if abraham loves god as much as god loves humans) and abraham was ready to do it, that's when god said "stooop, i will provide instead a lamb, you can find him amid the thorns over there", that lamb was christ, the son of god, who is also god
and as for the wood, it symbolizes the fruit tree, the one that doomed humanity to a life away from god, so instead through the wood are humans saved
>but couldn't he just snap his fingers
he could do whatever he wants to
>so why be so dramatic
he could do whatever he wants to
as for the system of sacrifices, it is the early humans, who were repenting, who started to perform sacrifices in god's name. god made deals with people, and so all that was part of the deal. he just did it in such a way that humans benefit as much as possible (which includes teaching us lessons)
acts 19:27
So not only is this trade of ours in danger of falling into disrepute, but also the temple of the great goddess Diana may be despised and her magnificence destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worship.”
I said poor. Nothing about financial wealth.
>There is clear evidence that the arguments presented for the existence of the Jewish God are logically flawed—all of them have been shown to be unreliable. If this were not the case, all honest and intelligent people would accept that God exists, just as all honest and intelligent people accept that black holes exist.
the earliest major scientists and inventors were religious (most of them christian), the churches regularly bless spaceships, guns, operation machines, etc. christianity is not anti technology, this is a myth pushed by gnostics and other satanists. you give credit to all inventions (even today) from irreligious people, and you don't credit those by religious ones, that does't mean there are no smart christians, etc
>All that is left for Christians is faith and their feelings. We know that faith and feelings can be used to believe in any god at all—including non-existent gods. So faith and feelings cannot help us determine if Christianity is true.
even if true, if there was a little girl in front of you, and you were told to shoot her and canibalize her, would you do it? i certainly wouldn't, and the christian god wouldn't ask of it. so even if you want to argue that the child raping muzzies or the canibal pagans might have "the real god" then send me to hellfire, because i would not follow that
>There is clear evidence that prayer does not work despite the Bible promising prayers will be answered.
onIy if you doubt. If you wouIdnt doubt you wouIdnt have to test it
>There is clear evidence that humans invent gods.
>There is clear evidence that religions and gods are propagated through culture
yet all the cultures tell the same stories about the gods >Christianity would need solid evidence that the Jewish god is an exception to this rule but there is no such evidence.
only if you are absolutely blind you dont see evidence of the divine creator >There is clear evidence that humans on this planet have unequal access to Christianity so, if Christianity were true, billions would be condemned to hell for no fault of their own.
the general message is found everywhere, and the end wont come until it spread to every corner of the earth. The non believers will be judged seperately after the 1000 year kingdom of God according to their conscience.
>sprinkled with the type of errors
citation needed
>Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity.
only if you are too much of a brainlet to understand. We deserve punishment, without fail, for we all sin no matter how few. Since God doesnt like to go against his word this punishment must come, but because he loves us he doesnt want to punish us, but instead came down himself, in the form of Jesus, and took the punishment we deserve onto himself. Its the father taking responsibility for his children.
>If this were not the case, all honest and intelligent people would accept that God exists
they do, schlomo
also you claim all these evidence exist, but not present any of it. makes me think.
You, nor anyone else, can prove ”black holes” exist as you say they do
>Anime avatar fagging
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Amen. But sad to say, the members of the church from the ones that I have been in (especially a couple new age christian church bullshit) have desecrated their inner temples and defiled the inner holy spirit with ease, as the christian church is nothing more than a sophisticated tribal gathering for mates and emotional bonding especially on a sexual level.
maybe it’s the wording, why is it so easy for me to picture as some mutt, Achmed?
There is clear evidence that there is a satanic cabal ruling over the planet
There is clear evidence that people are forced to commit satanic acts and attend satanic parties before they are initiated into the upper echelons of society
There is clear evidence that these satanic rituals are based upon judaism and judaic practices, aligning with Jesus' accusations that the jews are the children of the devil
There is clear evidence of spiritual evil literally everywhere, from seemingly low-tier spirits haunting homes to outright demonic rituals, and banishing them in the name of Christ works
There is clear evidence of essentially every claim made in the Bible, from the origin of the white races being the Caucasian mountains (essentially every white tribe historically had a myth linking them there, and whilst the myths often varied from the Biblical account; the exact region and many similarities remained) to the sons of Ishmael (Arabs) being hostile to the entire planet
With each passing year new archeological evidence is found corroborating Biblical history as true history
The prophecies of the Bible seem to be coming true at an alarming rate, and whilst some might argue there will always be wars, turmoil and famine; the fact remains that Europe is now facing an existential crisis and has been since the time it decided to forsake Christianity and make its politics increasingly secular
Nature, the seasons and human instinct indicate the necessity for such Biblical themes as rebirth and the desire for regaining immortality
A few years on Yas Forums and a little research to corroborate many of the arguments here should be all anyone needs to be beyond certain that spiritual evil exists. Once you have accepted that; you need only look into what the spiritual evil is constantly trying to destroy, and Christianity immediately becomes separated from all the other religions that tend to be supported, despite often seemingly contradicting, that spiritual evil
>I'm asserting something just because some moron told me this once. You must now argue with me based on my conception of others reality.
Okay, and Canadian means pedophile Muslim who strives for the end of western civilization. Sorry, I've defined it as that so now I will continue to treat you that way. Doesn't fit your definition? Oh well, Canadian, how about you go behead some infadels you rapist.