No one expects that China will fulfill its obligations, or take steps required by the law of state responsibility. So, how might the United States and other nations vindicate their rights? The legal consequences of an internationally wrongful act are subject to the procedures of the Charter of the United Nations. Chapter XIV of the charter recognizes that states may bring disputes before the International Court of Justice or other international tribunals. But the principle of state sovereignty means that a state may not be compelled to appear before an international court without its consent. This reflects a general proposition in international law, and its fundamental weakness.
Still, injured states are not without remedy. Barring any prospect for effective litigation, states could resort to self-help. The law of state responsibility permits injured states to take lawful countermeasures against China by suspending their own compliance with obligations owed to China as a means of inducing Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and debt (Article 49). Countermeasures shall not be disproportionate to the degree of gravity of the wrongful acts and the effects inflicted on injured states (Article 51). The choice of countermeasures that injured states may select is wide open, with only minimal limitations. For example, countermeasures may not involve the threat or use of force or undermine the human rights of China (Article 50). Except for these limitations, however, the United States and other injured states may suspend existing legal obligations or deliberately violate other legal duties owed to China as a means to induce Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and address the calamitous damages it has inflicted on the world.
depends on whether or not you remove the dual citizens and globalist golems first
Owen Mitchell
There will be no reparations because that's reserved for war only. If they use it for random things like diseases, then it makes it meaningless. Just like impeachment.
Cooper White
>if China doesn’t agree to reparations... pic related
I propose we target Chinese shipping, and begin issuing Writs of Marque to privateers, with the stipulation that all saleable goods captured will be purchased by the issuing government at cost.
Also US, being in the most debt since obama: >fuck a damn gold standard
Jack Kelly
>mutts finally agree to pay reprations das rite
Luke Bailey
There’s a concept in civil procedure called matters of jurisdiction. The come in two forms. Personal jurisdiction and Subject Matter jurisdiction.
There’s Personal Jurisdiction I.e. whether a court can exercise authority physically remand plaintiff and defendant to the courts to actually hear a case. Note by personal I’m talking about physical jurisdiction, as both individuals and groups of individuals (eg corporations, non-profits, etc).
The other aspect is called subject matter jurisdiction which pertains solely to the type of case and again, whether or not the court is a proper venue to hear said case.
I may be a lowly Legal Jew but I would imagine the issue of jurisdiction is also something international courts would deal with. However, if China was a person, they would likely satisfy requirements for both personal and subject matter jurisdiction under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (FRCP).
Even if Chinese government actors intentionally infected us with the virus that's still a shit thing to do. You pay what you owe or your word means nothing.
Evan Perry
Claims of fucking what? Why on Earth would China ever pay?
Evan Ortiz
Absolutly! Why do you think we're spending trillions right now?
Robert Moore
we all know that Germany never rose again, and was not fucking salty.
Caleb Allen
Pretty sure the US doesn't recognize the authority of the ICJ but US courts could rule against China and order Chinese assets in the US seized to pay off any judgement made against China.
Jose Rivera
US is insolvent.
Tyler Sanchez
How comfy is that. It’s almost like.....
Grayson Jenkins
What about cases against the ccp and any property they might hold (given that all top chink are ccp and hold much property in the west.
Logan Russell
>MUH REPERARIONS
Spoken like a nigger
Evan James
Not a single penny should go to anything chink related now or in the future All companies that do business in China should pull out, willingly or by force Manufacturing in China should be considered akin to treason and companies that do the manufacturing should pay massive fines and have their products slapped with 200%+ tariffs until the manufacturing has been fully brought back Non-citizen Chinese should immediately be deported or sent to happy fun time camps
Put sanctions on them move all business out , ban all flights from China for 3 years
Ian Russell
We should just drop all foreign debt and watch as their economy dies. While we shift all business out of it so that they can't profit from our stock market anymore.
Isaac Watson
Unless the United States can prove that this was the result of Chinese viral engineering, and (more importantly) unless the United States can convince the rest of the world this is the case, there is absolutely no chance of China being held to any sort of liability.
Robert Cooper
>Just roll over and play nice, goy Cuck
Noah James
The US can't ever pay its debt. At best it can prioritize payments to countries who it needs to curry favor from. Robbing peter to pay paul.
Gavin Flores
China lied People died.
Luis Sanders
Wrong. America is a power bloc of its own and does what it wants. crash the chinks economy and the paid off politicians around the world won't have any reason to support China anymore
Isaiah Morris
US federal courts have held that countries can be named in civil trials so again, assuming they satisfy requirements for both Personal and Subject Matter Jurisdiction under the FRCP, they may be served papers like anyone else. Hence long-arm jurisdiction, as the courts can hypothetically reach out and touch anyone or anything within the US.
Logic follows that federal courts have jurisdiction over any case involving an American citizen, whether they physically be present in the US or not, through the idea that a country’s judicial system may prosecute their own citizen, even if the offense was committed overseas, through the simple fact that as a resident of that country, they avail themselves to legal protections otherwise, and are thus responsible should someone else seek that same form of legal protection against that resident. In terms of non-Americans, this applies to anyone on US soil. So that includes visa holders like tourists or exchange students, as well as permanent residents and green card holders.
Given China avails themselves to American courts, long-arm jurisdiction necessarily results in the People’s Republic of China being called as a defendant or interpleader should they be sued in US courts. Failure to appear usually results in a default judgement, and those are geopolitically very very bad for reasons too numerous to list, so 9 times out of 10, they will appear.
Jordan Nelson
Just forget about it. Move on.
Joseph Green
Oh fuck dat time get.
Justin Allen
Trump doesn't need any stinkin' courts to financially crush China back to a nation of starving peasants. 22 U.S. Code §2798, 50 U.S. Code §1702
Brandon Allen
Research how treasury bonds work Moron
Gavin Hill
Okay Chang
Jace Evans
Almost every international Chinese business is a state owned company. Their assets in the West can be seized if they don't pay up.
Ryder Brooks
How about no, Chang.
China deserves to pay the world for LYING about how bad this virus is. The US and the rest of the world would have reacted faster if they WOULDN'T HAVE LIED.
Luis Lewis
CHING CHONG DING DONG PING PONG BANG
Levi Peterson
Guess we have to go to war with the chinks then. Thanks memeflaggot!
Hunter Reyes
ching chong ping pong wuhan gone bing bong
Wyatt Martin
>tfw whites get reparations and dont give shit to niggers Wouldn't that be something
Landon Ross
China's economy is less dependent on the US than vice versa. Something like 20-something percent or 18 percent, around there, of their exports. It's a very large hit, but they could weather it because they can make everything.
All the talk out of cope posters in the West is moving it to India or israel, just shuffling the trade deficit around. It tells me the people pushing for it are either extremely dumb or inorganic.
Benjamin James
Fuck Chinks Fuck China Fuck Winnie the Pooh
Oliver Fisher
Shut up chang. Go eat some bats.
Xavier Thompson
Simple solution: Deports all Pajeet and nuke India and 90% of the complaints about China on this board are resolved
Ryan Turner
You are delusional. I keep seeing this kind of talk from ANZACs. The US is a dumb nigger country. Zero White people are going to fight and die for this place after the first wave of redneck retards gets wasted. Your existential problem over there isn't ours.
Dominic Howard
The US doesn't have the means to do such and most of you people are willfully ignorant of this leading to a World War that will seriously damage the US and China on behalf of the Zionist.
