The God of Abraham is an malevolent lesser deity. Samael, Yaldabaoth, Yahweh... whatever you call the demiurge it is an evil being that have entrapped you in this torturous realm and hidden the true reality from you. You're in a spiritual prison you cannot sense. I bet none of you even know what Abraxas is.
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Gnosticism is pseudo-luciferianism.
The name of the god of Judeo-Christians is actually Yahweh. Jews and Christians believe that their god's name is Yahweh. Jews and Christians worship Yahweh. That's the name of the god of the Bible.
I know about the rest but who is abraxas? Please don't tell me it's another god we must worship?
Ask yourself this, who in the bible caused most suffering, Lucifer or Yahweh?
>I know about the rest
Of course you do kikel. This is all kike nonsense.
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Keep your Euro God. We is mother Earth spiritual over here, God faggot. Alien God. Alien people.
Abraxus is an album by Carlos Santana.
Lucifer even from the start.
One of Lucifer's first title's was the Father of All Lies, as his proposed plan for mortal dwelling was to force all others to be saved for his own glory; whatever sort of saved that means seeking to destroy the agency of all humanity.
Not only did he attempt this, but he roused followers in heaven in rebellion against God and His disciples, causing Lucifer to be cast out.
Skipping ahead in time because I really don't want to write a huge paragraph, think about every time God made personal destruction of a human location or the Earth itself. Every time it was in a state of total wickedness, children among adults wishing to rape angels, cannabalism, child sacrifice, everything you can think of that happens today without intervention was occurring systematically and culturally.
This is what Lucifer revels in, he can drag away God's divine children away from him through vice, the beckoning of temptation. Torturing them forever in a realm of his own design, lording over them all. Forever.
If you don't see the depth of suffering such actions have caused then, I dunno man.
No matter how wicked Lucifer may have been, the Biblical god will always trump him because Yahweh initiated the whole process from the start while being fully omniscient what would happen.
Imagine I created a universe simulator where I knew exactly how much endless suffering I would create when I pressed Enter for starting the simulation. If I press the button knowing full well what missery it would cause, I am malevolent because I can choose not to initiate the process. It doesn't even matter about this stupid free will argument christians come with. They deity who initiates the universe with suffering is a wicked being.
Explain how pain even in it's smallest capacity being present necessitates that God is malevolent.
What? Pain is present in a gigantic capacity in this universe.
I should clarify.
The fact that pain exists doesn't necessitate that God is malevolent. God could easily, EASILY as an omnipotent being make all souls that ever are or ever were be in a loop of excructiating, never relenting, searing pain and suffering. If God is malevolent, He would be doing an extremely poor job at it, in other words, illogically poor job.
The world was created by the fall of Adam Kadmon, dont speak of things you dont know.
You think you're smart, you're not.
>the Earth was created after Adam took the fruit of knowledge
Read Genesis again and stop spouting Jewish Kabbalahistic nonsense.
demons were givin an ugly face (or rather an animal face) as a punishment from god for rebelling against him, some food for thought.
>why do bad things happen argument
All bad things happen because of man and mans selfishness.
Do you want God to wipe your ass and hold your hand when you cross the street as well?
>Judaic narrative
Yeah, no.
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>All bad things happen because of man and mans selfishness.
Really?
Does man cause parasites?
Does man cause viruses?
Does man cause bacteria?
Does man cause prions?
Does man cause the evolution of pain receptors?
Does man cause the predator-prey dynamic in nature?
Does man cause natural disasters?
Does man cause genetic disorders?
Do I need to go on?
God also has allowed for the capacity of humanity to fight against everything you've listed with varying degrees of your success.
A malevolent God would not give us that opportunity, let alone send His only begotten to die for us.
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Yes. All of those things didnt exist before the fall, and some of those are indeed caused by man directly today.
>"why should I be responsible for Adam's mistake"
Because you're no better.
>creator God of all creation
>my human morality is true!
>God's is wrong
Hahahah imagine being this stupid
Where does morality come from?
>creator God of all creation
Pay attention and read what's being told to you before speaking because you just exposed yourself as an idiot.
>cant address argument
>let me try being a grammar nazi
Oh this is too easy
Giving things esoteric names like you are only serves to convolute the issue.
From a deductive standpoint, it’s pretty easy to get a grasp of what’s going on.
There is death, chaos, nothingness.
There is order, creation, love.
We know that order leads to creation, because life is orderly and life is genesis. We know that life is love, because love is the telos of life, and life cannot continue without love.
Call whichever side ‘Yahweh’, ‘Shibboleth’, ‘Pyotr’s Cosmic Grease’, it’s pretty redundant.
Do you also believe that every parent is inherently evil?
Also, in this hypothetical universe simulator of yours - can you not see how pressing the start button could potentially lead to solutions or resolutions in the real world that you could not otherwise discover in your own lifetime? To go to a cliche example: if you had a Universe Simuator™ at your disposal and you knew that if you allow the program to run its course 5 or 6 times would lead a 'cure for cancer'? (I don't think that's really possible but feel free to insert 'a grand unifying theory of everything' or 'practically feasible Utopian framework' or w/e in place of 'a cure for cancer')
>let me try being a grammar nazi
No you fucking moron, did the point really fly that far above your head? Go read up on the gnostic concept of what the demiurge is. It is not the ultimate creator god.
Lol...great thread Manly. P. Faggot
>imagine being so far up your own asshole you think you've figured anything out
>my gnostic texts are truth
>ignores the fact that in gnosticism there is still a creator god above the demiurge
Fuckin moron
Original Sin caused all of these things. Christ was whipped 39 times and there are 39 types of diseases. By His stripes we are healed. Existence is highly poetic. Jehovah's design is astounding.
searching for "Pyotr's Cosmic Grease" on google is giving me nothing but mildly related stuff like a brand of Rubix cube lube. I don't know if you just came up with it or not but I really like the phrase for some reason. It gives me Douglas Adams vibes
>Do you also believe that every parent is inherently evil?
To some extent, yes I do actually, but not necessarily intentionally. I am an anti-natalist. Creating life is immoral because it ultimately leads to suffering and it's an imposition on the person being created. No one who is born into this world consented to coming here.
>Also, in this hypothetical universe simulator of yours - can you not see how pressing the start button could potentially lead to solutions or resolutions in the real world that you could not otherwise discover in your own lifetime? To go to a cliche example: if you had a Universe Simuator™ at your disposal and you knew that if you allow the program to run its course 5 or 6 times would lead a 'cure for cancer'? (I don't think that's really possible but feel free to insert 'a grand unifying theory of everything' or 'practically feasible Utopian framework' or w/e in place of 'a cure for cancer')
That's some nefarious Rick Sanchez type of thinking. Let me create a whole world with the potential to suffer so that I may gain some resource to exploit or benefit from.
>believes in lesser gods
There is only one God, Creator, First cause of all. First mover. Everything else is creation
You literally cannot prove that no one born consented to their souls filling the vessel.
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