What does Yas Forums think of Ukrainian nationalism? Were Bandera and the OUN really so horrible and bloodthirsty? It seems kind of like public school dum dum retard comic book writing. Take this on their wikipedia page for example:
An OUN order from early 1944 stated:
Liquidate all Polish traces. Destroy all walls in the Catholic Church and other Polish prayer houses. Destroy orchards and trees in the courtyards so that there will be no trace that someone lived there... Pay attention to the fact that when something remains that is Polish, then the Poles will have pretensions to our land".
UPA commander's order of 6 April 1944 stated: "Fight them [the Poles] unmercifully. No one is to be spared, even in case of mixed marriages"[123]
Timothy Snyder describes the murders: "Ukrainian partisans burned homes, shot or forced back inside those who tried to flee, and used sickles and pitchforks to kill those they captured outside. In some cases, beheaded, crucified, dismembered, or disemboweled bodies were displayed, in order to encourage remaining Poles to flee".[41] A similar account has been presented by Niall Ferguson, who wrote: "Whole villages were wiped out, men beaten to death, women raped and mutilated, babies bayoneted."[124] Ukrainian historian Yuryi Kirichuk described the conflict as similar to medieval rebellions.
It seems to make more sense that the Soviet wanted to push the knife further into Ukrainian nationalism through slander, control of the narrative generally. It's like "hey guys, here is exactly what we're going to do, with especially evocative writing." It seems like it's too retarded to exist without having been created for propaganda purposes.
It seems to fit that the holodomor falls in line with the same idea. Do these accusations make sense? I'm not so sure. Don't we have enough evidence that the Soviets were basically an unchallenged centralized authority on asiatic steroids? Why do we think that they were fine while characterizing a nation that has almost literally always been enslaved or otherwise royally fucked over in history. It seems more likely that that nation would like to, in a phrase, stand up on its own two feet. Hold its head up high. This sort of thing. That seems to be what Bandera was after, those higher, more ennobling destinations. That's how he strikes me, reading about him.
But I can't say for sure, I have no idea of course. However, I do love them. I am smitten by that idea being the uplifting force embodying state authority. If that's why those people are in the streets then that's probably one of the most based thing that exists in these times.
Village primitives that act tough only when they get a green light from occupants to murder civilians. Despite Nazi/Soviet support, they still got destroyed everytime when fighting Polish Home Army units.
Just wait until you hear the rants about globalism on Slavic radio stations in the usa. The Ukrainians in the us are a isolated community that's red pilled on goy and communism, they only need a push and allies for (the) day. Many are afraid if violence though and are very peaceful going to the point of cucking out of buying guns even tho 2a, you will have to show them they still have greater enemy's and fight for the final good. Than let them come back to there homeland after the day comes to pass. It is not our fault we are incredibly cucked, we still need time to regain what and who communism took from us. And jesus fuck we do good in us, petty much everyone that came from Ukraine in the 80s to 2000s are rich as fuck. Just not the compete retards.
Kayden Johnson
that's extremely based. are there any resources like news sites you can recommend?
Nathan Price
pee on ruskies, jews and poles
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Oliver Cox
SLAVA UKRAINI!
Nicholas Miller
Whole fucking Ukraine is a meme country. A gigantic shit, which should be split between us, Slovaks, Russians, even fucking Romanians. The whole “Ukranian” nation itself isn’t really different, they want to involve other Slavs like Ruthenians into their shitty national identity. Did I mention their meme-fascism?
Justin Ward
I'm gonna agree on that.
Lincoln Price
You you're salty. You wish you lived in the heart and birthplace of slavland
Jacob Adams
>pee on jews >your president is a jew kys ukrop
Bentley Sanders
I don't think anyone cares desu Also meme flag= faggot Also B*sips tea* >is op, dare I say it, our guy? >look at this outrageous tweet guys >Lets team up with niggers >what do you think of Rogue One? Redpilled? >look at this reddit post guys >It doesn't wo- >Now that the dust has settled... >mic drop >change my mind. Protip: you can't >here's why onions is good for you >thinks his guns will protect him from drone strikes >APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW >uses memeflag *sips tea* >not all niggers >Miss me yet? >How can Yas Forums even compete? >You mad white boy? >drumfkins >take this jewish DNA test goys >Yas Forums BTFO >not all jews >well? >hello fellow white peoole >BERNIE 2020 *sips tea* >why is x like this? >am I white >whats his/her problem? >Look at this qt jew >gays are people >defend this poor shitskin >POWERFUL >Can I get a quick rundown guys? >random nigger porn >I am forgotten >what did he mean by this? >will x be allowed into the ethnostate?
Jaxson Hall
GEROJAM SLAVA!
Hudson Roberts
Ukrianian nationalism is basically a clusterfuck of people giving a million different interpretations of said nationalism. Some groups are legit right-wing groups, some are Mossad honeypots, some are hypocritical "kosher" nazis, some are indifferent, some are CivNat, and some are purely anti Russian, but okay with anything else.
Colton Kelly
Forgot to add, the guy who runs Asgardsrei is a Mossad agent, and is playing all the other bands along in some sort of sting operation.
Ryan Baker
God i love Ukrainian whores even when they gobble my chink dick
Blake Watson
nationalism does not equal supremacism
Christopher Russell
okay bong, relax. the reason i didn't post my flag is because somebody would make a leaf joke and soon after the thread is filled up with garbage. your post is lame and unfunny
could you tell me more about their meme-fascism? would you consider yourself learned on the topic?
based
i guess based. presumably based.
i think makhno was great as well. i don't know enough to compare them.
Isaac Kelly
Cnaba YkraiHe!
Liam Long
forgot picture on last post
>Asgardsrei hmm that's pretty fucked. but if true i have to admit, the israelis are being kind of based here, speaking as someone who.. advocates for the ukrainian bioculture's interests. if the music is gay then it's significantly less based, but the jews are still being effective at their shenanigans. anyway black metal is basically inferior in every way to what trap is at its best, objectively speaking.
do you know anything about the other political parties, what that looks like? is the current president zelensky pushing homo bullshit yet? mind you i have no idea what goes on, maybe the ship has indeed sailed. is everybody despairing?
The country is a buffer zone between Russia and Europe, they got a territory literally like 10 times more than they deserve. That fact gives them overfilled selfconfidence, so they act like actual fascist to other nationalities(Hungarians, Ruthenians etc). They have a segregating language law. They also burned down a hungarian house of culture in ungvár/berehovo. They also gigantic poorfaggots, even Hungary is a Switzerland compared to their country.
Adam Wilson
Wich piece of Ukraine would you like to acquire?
Aaron Martin
Transcarpathia
Jordan Green
perhaps they were given land on the condition that it be governed sort of like a federation, or at least represented proportionally in policy
Henry Parker
That's preety fair. For us it's Cernauti and Bugeac.
Easton Ross
>Were Bandera and the OUN really so horrible and bloodthirsty? It seems kind of like public school dum dum retard comic book writing. Yeah it really is dum dum retard comic book writing, I guess all those people just mysteriously vanished and haven't been killed at all and my great-grandparents have robbed themselves lol
Luke Foster
Jew instruments. You will deny the facts anyway. The nationalists have achieved the Land Reform, thanks to that, Ukraine can be sold to foreign countries piece by piece. Nothing was done to corruption. The Eastern conflict still drags on. The medical facilities are still being deconstructed by Suprun, bitch still has her US pass. There is no EU integration in sight, there's beef with every neighbour and the whole damn country is a clown cash sink and everyone knows that. It's just a shitshow to weaken the Russians and even that is getting failed by Ukrainians. Let em rot.
Cooper Sullivan
>What does Yas Forums think of Ukrainian nationalism? Does not really concern me.