I was wondering, how was it that past times were so violent? Constant brutal wars, like the crusades.
I am asking how, now why. Let me explain myself. I think we all agree on the fact that it would be very difficult for most people on the world nowadays to take a sword and kill a whole family, including children. So what was different on the past? Why are we more disinclined to kill other people on cold blood?
Could it be education? Were people more accustomed to watching gore? Was the value of life perceived different?
You can convince a lot of starving military aged men to do some real shit for a couple square meals
Luis Bailey
The latter. You had a good chance of dying from some random shit like an animal attack, literally any minor physical complication like a flu or an infection, etc. so value was put more in what you did rather than how long you lived. Couple this with strong religious roots; promises of glory in the afterlife, as well as strong nationalism, and you have incentives for people to go out and carve their mark into history with a blade
The more secular, liberal, post-modern society became, the more cowards and faggots we got who are self-absorbed enough to want to live forever
tl;dr: life got easier and nobody has any strong convictions to kill for any more
Human life had very little value in the pre-Christian world. In fact many religions embedded society hierarchies within their rituals; for example the pharaoh was Ra, literal god and everyone in the kingdom was his eternal slave which he was free to do as he pleased. Following along these same lines, many religions were warlike in their established hierarchy which led to concepts such as Valhalla
Ian Cruz
If you truly belive in something. If you truly belive that your king and country is just, and that its gods will that you must fight and kill people, you will. Its the same reason people like Tarrant (bless his soul) can mow down all those people and feel no remorse. He truly believes that what he is doing is right. Now this only applies to white people, as niggers will kill over fucking food stamps.
But seriously, if you feel as if you are in danger That your country, race or life is in danger, its your primal instinct to kill. People now adays don't belive in anything. They live happy lives devoid of strife, and keep themselves happy with useless distractions. Thats why you don't see a lot of killing or violence in the world today (when we of course compare it to the past)
Samuel Smith
Less cameras, aka heaven for psychos.
Carter Ward
No need for war when you can compete with each other playing sports user-kun.
basically all militaries in the past and present played sports during their downtime, and all sports have elements of battle in them.
Levi Garcia
>Was the value of life perceived different? This. Death was a common part of life. People killed their own animals, killed their criminals in the street, war was up close and not safe and neat to be conducted from a desk. Medical procedures were grim ordeals, not many people lived to an old age. People wanted to see death. We still do, as a species, but we've compiled rules and regulations that limit our exposure to it.
Lucas Watson
I see many opinions agree on the “no drive to kill for anything anymore more” part
Nathan Kelly
I take it you've never tried farming with hand tools. Give it a go for a few days on minimal food and you'll realise pretty quick why people were happy to go fight wars lol.
Thomas Howard
>subby spineless loser writes apologia for their own longing to die Just kill yourself if you're too cowardly to face eternity, lol.
Sebastian Rogers
>open catalog >full of slide threads >abundant with ones that make questions with obvious answers Thing is, i don't believe you really don't know the answer, you are either a bot or just a filthy crapposter, both despicable
Nathaniel Peterson
Ubiquitous trauma broke people into sociopaths and schizophrenics. I don't like using the word schizophrenic on this board - it does not get understood - and I swear I'm not using it as a hateflag. The religious indoctrination was accompanied by even more of its modern ills. Zealots who would try to beat the fear of god into people were praised, not opposed. People who beat children were generally praised, not opposed. Child molestation was common and unpunished. Prostitution was hated yet prostitutes lived mysteriously in the open (because most of the men in the village were also fucking the village whore). People who yelled all the right words in public could be honored contributors to society despite their permanent snarling. People who longed for the death of countless enemies were considered good to anyone who wasn't on the list.
Under all that stress, some people hallucinated, while others went dead inside. Both of these made people crazier and crueler. People took out their suffering on each other and they only suffered more.
Only the church could interact with the peasants day-in, day-out while maintaining a semblance of sanity. That's what it was to be a holy man: to love the insane peasants.
The leadership were inbred partly because there were no virtuous peasants. The peasants inflicted this hideous society on each other. They could be saved sometimes. A little bit. It wasn't worth the headache. It was easier to send them off to die.
Indeed, it was EASY to send them off to die. Mercury-addled hateslaves could be formed up and sent off to murder strangers who they imagined as victims (how the sociopathic peasants imagined their enemies) or as demons (how the hallucinating peasants imagined their enemies).
Only soft times make men strong of mind. The leadership kept their perches by raising their children in a soft and honest manner, so the scions of the leaders could see the world with clear eyes and honest(ish) hearts.
Jackson Foster
Today we're lead by crazies, or else by people who no longer truly know how to interfere with crazies. Our leaders hate the peasants as though the peasants were insane; sometimes the problem is precisely that the peasants are not.
Insane abusers splinter in submission in their desperation for power - when the ascent of society was all along in standing against abuses and preventing the peasants from abusing each other into bitter insanity.
Today we have a sociopathic neurosurgeon problem, and actual honest science hasn't realized it needs desperately to run catch-up work.
Jason Campbell
People actually had a cause to die for and you also had to remember that their world was much smaller than ours Who knows maybe Space Colonization could bring this back
Nolan Bailey
The 20th century was by far the most brutal so far. Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un, Papa Doc Stalin, Armenian genocide, everywhere in Africa, everywhere in the middle east. Guns are less bloody, but have the same effect. The world is not trending down in terms of violence.
Cameron Hughes
I'm sure the rising influence of Christianity and the 10 commandments had much to do with it. Though it obviously didn't happen overnight. Over time, not murdering the people of your own family was extended to the entire town, then the county, then the country. Eventually, thou shall not kill, came to include everyone, even obviously evil kikes and subhuman niggers unfortunately.
It will be interesting to see if that goes retrograde like everything else in the decades to come. Maybe we'll be throwing jews down the well again one day, hopefully soon.
Sebastian Gomez
Yeah but most of that was subhuman races and kike demon communists. Expect animals to act like animals.
Why did White humans walk away from that? That's the question.
Dylan Baker
People of the past believed that killing and maiming in this life is only temporary. One for the arguments for death penalty for longest time was that it's just Earthly punishment and not really that important, since God is the ultimate judge. Society only started to abhor violence when people started to think that maybe this life is all anyone gets and dying is kinda ultimate and irreversible.
Joshua Garcia
No cameras, no audio recordings, no radios and comms for police, if there were any at all. No dna testing. You could sneak into somebodies house, flat out murder them, and not get caught.
Aaron Cooper
what is your field of study?
any book reccomendations?
Isaac Brooks
Because they didn't manufacture atomic bombs
Camden Fisher
Mores were different. Everyone believed might makes right and that war was legitimate.
Cooper Cooper
Weve simply been pusified into beliving death is the last resort. For hundreds of years to deal with murderers, rapists, pedophiles you would execute them, even watch. Now we treat them through prision or rehibillitation. also Crusades are not a good example of violence, since they happend like every 80 years and you voulenteerd to go.
Now instead of fighting wars, we simply are jewed by people higher up, wanting to rather sabatoge than face the enemy head on. This idea was created by the jews to pacify us. Im not saying to become murderers, im saying the idea of killing and justice even if its greusome should not be taboo, since our ancestors were doing it for 100s of years.
Jack Myers
>Could it be education? It's this.
Christian world teaches you the doctrine of the "Just War". And you believe in an afterlife anyway. Non-Christianity teaches you that violence is icky unless you have the correct skin color (anything but "pale). Also, there is no afterlife, so your life is something extremely precious to you, it's all you have.
Why would it be any different? Blacks in the US, Muslims in Europe have the same settis as the white populace when it comes to estrogen-rich food, s.o.y. or whatever the current boogeyman on Yas Forums is, but are much more violent and aggressive than Whites.
Why? Because they enjoy a different cultural education.
Carson Turner
you could go to war, have a massive battlefield of thousands of people with swords and armor all fighting, and really if you were in the middle of your large group, you would just stand there, hordes of people would clash, but they wouldn't all be fighting, just the two clashing lines, if you were in the back you were just there for fun
then archers and guns came and fucked that up, now you can get sniped and never even know what happened.
Henry Ward
>Was the value of life perceived different? you gotta read pic related. life was very precious, but it was extremely violent. killing the entire family of someone that wronged you (with a sword of all things) wasn't seen as unusual in the slightest.
Can't we just ban Burgermutts from history threads?
Parker Clark
American website Also you fucking Euros are doing a horrible job of preserving your history by tearing down churches and allowing jewish architecture Do I need to bring up the geometric cancer on the traditional building?
