Why the FUCK aren't we talking about this? In the many pointless Christian threads we have daily, this is NEVER MENTIONED!!!
From Nostra Ætate: >As Holy Scripture testifies, Jerusalem did not recognize the time of her visitation,(9) nor did the Jews in large number, accept the Gospel; indeed not a few opposed its spreading.(10) Nevertheless, God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their Fathers; He does not repent of the gifts He makes or of the calls He issues-such is the witness of the Apostle. >God holds the Jews most dear >most dear >MOST DEAR JUST
The witness of the Apostle being referred to is Romans 9:4-5 (Latin included for clarity since the English can be ambiguous at times): >Who are Israelites: to whom belongeth the adoption as of children and the glory and the testament and the giving of the law and the service of God and the promises: >qui sunt Israëlitæ, quorum adoptio est filiorum, et gloria, et testamentum, et legislatio, et obsequium, et promissa : >Whose are the fathers and of whom is Christ, according to the flesh, who is over all things, God blessed for ever. Amen. >quorum patres, et ex quibus est Christus secundum carnem, qui est super omnia Deus benedictus in sæcula. Amen.
The document claims that the blessings of the old covenant has continued into the modern era. This cannot be true, since the old covenant ended with Christ. Further, Fr. Haydock in his 1881 commentary describes these verses as referring only to blessings that had happened in the past, not something that is ongoing: >[The Apostle] mentions the favours which God had done to his people, the Jews. >had done
Further, the Apostle is referring specifically to the ancient Israelites of the time of Christ. When he makes a claim about his people, it would be incoherent to then draw an inference to the current members of any of the various fringe sects Rabbinical Judaism (henceforth referred to as simply Rabbinical Jews). We can’t even esteem Rabbinical Jews of owning the fathers. Many ancient Israelites converted to Christianity and gradually adopted the native ethnic identity. Those too “stiff-necked” to follow Christ, after the destruction of the temple, scattered across the known world. As a diaspora, in order to cope with the loss of their obsolete temple, they invented the fringe Abrahamic sect Rabbinical Judaism. Over the next tens of generations, they continued to either gradually adopted new ethnic identities through conversion to Christianity or diluted their own Abrahamic bloodline by converting natives to their own radical sect. Therefore, many Christians have just as much ownership of the fathers as modern Rabbinical Jews, and it is unclear how much ownership even the Rabbinical Jews have. By Divine Providence, they weren’t able to document their chain of ancestry as the ancient Israelites had done in the Old Testament, so they cannot prove they are the descendants of Abraham. They can only prove, thanks only to modern genetic analysis, that a small portion of their ancestry is Semitic. We know that the ancient Israelites were a Semitic people, but we also know that many other ancient groups were Semitic as well, so it is not even conclusive that Rabbinical Jews have any relation to the ancient Israelites. Therefore, even if the old testament was still somehow in application today, Rabbinical Jews may not even have any blessings from it, and it would be most fitting if they didn’t, as Rabbinical Judaism was developed by the evil Pharisees, who denied the fulfillment of the old testament in Christ and, in doing so, committed the ultimate crime of decide.
It's mentioned every time Vatican II comes up. You're just a pleb that doesn't read these threads.
Jaxson Carter
what do you want to say about it? the church hierarchy fell to the masons and the jews in the 60's its a known thing, we live with it every day, and now we have a legit retard occupying the throne of st. peter its all written thousand of years ago and this is just an act in the grand drama that is life if you literally start struggling in the name of Jesus you will find jews are super weak, or jesus just makes it super easy, im not sure which. its just a matter of waking people up now
Carson Martin
>You don't read these threads. You're right. I don't read dumpster fires that only rehash internecine conflicts between Christians ad infinitum. I do notice the OPs, though, and I am still right that NOONE is specifically talking about the Jewish supremacy promulgated by the post-conciliar church. If they do, it's to slander all Catholics for a few recent promulgated documents that don't even contain any doctrinal statements.
>what do you want to say about it? Well, immediately I would like to know about any Catholics or Catholic organizations making political moves to "clarify" these jewish supremacist statements so that I may support them. I would also like to know whether I am missing anything else being promulgated and used by heretics within the church to support false claims. And lastly it would be nice to focus the clear Christian presence on Yas Forums into topics and activities that are actually useful to the participators of such threads, instead of degenerating into internecine conflicts I always see.
Chase Williams
>Well, immediately I would like to know about any Catholics or Catholic organizations making political moves to "clarify" these jewish supremacist statements so that I may support them. its so much deeper than that just the things you say make it clear you are pretty nu Ill explain what I can if you want me too do you know what a discord tranny is or what happened in 1492?
God's chosen people are the werewolves. Jews are vampires.
Brandon Williams
>Ill explain what I can if you want me too Sure >do you know what a discord tranny is or what happened in 1492? Uh, yes
Nicholas Powell
well if you know those things, you should be able to answer your own questions but for number one there are many groups doing many things at all times the catholic church isnt political though so political movements would be silly the pope is a biarchy, but the emperors estate is in abeyance and until that comes back we are mostly fucked last time this happened ended with otto the great resetting the papacy and burning everything, which is why its called the dark ages or the saeculum obscurum to people with iqs above 100
>The catholic church isn't political I mean a political movement in the Aristotelian sense. >Saeculum obscurum I confess I don't know much church history, but this is a good parallel to today. saeculum obscurum nostrum is going to last longer, though.
>Crypto-jew This is why forcible conversion is wrong. But the "relgious liberty" of Dignitatis Humanae is equally wrong. There is no "right" in natural law to practice a false religion. The Church has always only as much as tolerated other groups. I don't even know how to "focibly" convert somehow except through torture. The proper thing to do at that point is just Hans-Herman Hoppe them out of your country.
I'm sure there are tons of not only crypto-jews, but also crypto-protestants and crypto-atheists within the Church. And this is even without forcible conversion... they have since realized that they must subvert it from within: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_Vendita
>discord tranny The gay cults on discord? >1492 A lot happened in 1492, can you be more specific?
Ayden Wright
>In the 60s!! Hahahaha It was fucking made by ROME dummy. Gnostics are the true Christians. Christ taugh love your enemy and catholics ROASTED THEM ALIVE. You cant be filled with hate and prejudice and arrogance and enter God's kingdom. You cant rape children and cover it up or protect those which do. Gods light is peace and understanding..compassion for all life.
The gospel was a political revolution. The only "Son of God" at that time was Caesar. The only "sacraments" were military. The only "thousand year reign" was Rome. Baptism was a revolutionary act against Rome, since it enlisted men into the "Church Militant". The ascension of Christ was his installation of his social kingship at the right hand of the Father. And Christ needs a material representative in order to investigate, clarify, promulgate, and enforce His law. You can scoff when I assert that this authority is and must be present is the Roman Catholic Church. But I don't see any other material presence of Christian authority. Protestants and are hopelessly divided. The Orthodox are subjects to their own respect states and also divided, but not as much. Divided we fall. If a "Protestant" were an honest one, he'd try to change the direction of the Roman Catholic Church from within. If you think there is a Satanic presence within the Vatican, the most cowardly thing you can do is leave it.
1 Corinthians: >1:11 Significatum est enim mihi de vobis fratres mei ab iis, qui sunt Chloës, quia contentiones sunt inter vos. >1:11 For it hath been signified unto me, my brethren, of you, by them that are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. >1:12 Hoc autem dico, quod unusquisque vestrum dicit : Ego quidem sum Pauli : ego autem Apollo : ego vero Cephæ : ego autem Christi. >1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith: I indeed am of Paul; and I am of Apollo; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. >1:13 Divisus est Christus ? numquid Paulus crucifixus est pro vobis ? aut in nomine Pauli baptizati estis ? >1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul then crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
This is my response and I won't post and more because it's extremely off-topic.
The Pharisees of the New Testament were actually Edomites who were forced to adopt the Abrahamic religion when the Judeans returned to the promised land after their exile by the Assyrians. Edomites are a Canaanite race, the product of the marriage of Esau to his Canaanite wives; Christ calls this out whenever he says that their father is Satan (Rev. 2:9 and 3:9). They really don't have any genetic claim to the Abrahamic blessing even if the covenant wasn't dissolved through Christ.
To make this relevant to Catholicism, I'll include a link that goes over how the Catholic Ten Commandments differ from the commandments handed down by God: jesus-is savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/2nd_command.htm
>Christ taugh love your enemy and catholics ROASTED THEM ALIVE That only further enforces my point that the Roman Catholic Church is the material authority of the social kingship of Christ. Christ the King considers heresy worse than murder. The 1st Commandment is more grievous than the 5th. If a heretic is obstinate and endangers other souls, like a murdered on the loose, he must be put down.
Read I said I wouldn't post any more about this. We're talking about Catholic errors, not Catholic legitimacy.
Xavier Lewis
Not responding to your shill off-topic post, make your own fucking thread heretic. Your picture, though, proves what I've been saying in my second post, Rabbinical Jews have very little semitic ancestry and so cannot make an exclusive ownership over the fathers mentioned in Romans 9:4-5.
David Cook
you are a legit retard and a know nothing i bet 1000$ you dont know what this img is >ohhh im super edgy gnosticfag but only know meme gnostic gay shit
Vatican II was straight the Treaty of Versailles for the Church. The Catholic Church had by and large backed the Axis durring the war (The first treaty hitler signed was with the Vatican and Mussolini, Franco and Hitler were all Catholics) For this resistance to the Jewish powers of (((liberalism))) and ((((Communism))) the church was forced to basically surrender to the kikes and allow pedophilic agents to infiltrate it as watch dogs against the "Reactionary" elements of the Church. As well accept straight up heresy such as the idea that Jews could go to heaven without accepting christ despite Christ explicitly saying that "no one comes to the father except through me"
pro tip golems only use 5 pointed stars(star of astroth) the 6 pointed represents the elements and a soul and its for jews, not golems >now do you understand why there are stars on flags?
