Something is really pissing me off about the corona "it's just a flu bro" people. Influenza has a CFR of .1%. That's .1% of confirmed cases. COVID-19 has a CFR of 6.8% globally right now. But you get all of these people saying "dude but there are asymptomatic cases", right? First of all, we don't really know that. That's all very poorly understood right now and preliminary data, which is deeply flawed, floods in. But regardless, lets assume its true.
So they try to say "dude so when you take into account all the asymptomatic cases the death rate is down to like 1%". Or pick a number. Anyway, they try to make it sound more like the flu.
But let's say, for arguments sake, the total death rate is .1%. The exact same CFR as the flu. OK, well guess what? The flu has asymptomatic cases too. Lol. Tons of them. And most people who get the flu DONT see medical help. Hahaha. So OK you can't just measure COVID-19 by one metric (total cases) and then influenza by another metric (confirmed cases only) and say "see dude? they are the same. COVID-19 is just a flu".
IDK. It's just something that's been pissing me off about the rhetoric surrounding this whole thing. God damned Republicans are anti-science, man. That is the truth. I am sorry.
the death rate for corona is projected to be 0.6%, which is 3 to 6 times as bad as the flu, depending on how bad a flu season it is.
The flu also typically has an r0 of 1.3 in developed countries, whereas coronas is several times higher than that uncontrolled, and in the US is still above 1 with all the current measures
Liam Cox
way to pull numbers out of your ass.
John Gonzalez
Should also note, the flus current r0 is most certainly below 1 right now while everyone is on lockdown. If we kept doing what we are currently doing we could actually eradicate the seasonal flu and never have to worry about it again.
But muh economy
Hunter Robinson
U right OP and i been thinking this shit exact same as u the whole time.
Death rate is only around 0.1%-0.3%. Flu doesn't use confirmed cases as a metric, it uses estimated total cases. So your argument falls apart there.
Nathaniel Russell
You are speculating just as much as those people you disagree with. Nobody has any answers right now and thus its impossible to really know how severe it is. Now go worship your science gods and give your anus as an offering to bill gates
John Fisher
This is assuming all information by the media is correct. They already stated the parameters of deaths accounted for by covid-19 association. Words mean things, guy. This whole thing is a nothing burger over a mild lab manufactured illness. The govt had the cure and the medical community knew of several treatments listed within a 2005 dated medical journal.
That’s not to say they’ll release something much worse; however, this was a stress test of populace control on a global level.
Blake Wright
Oh hey, theres that word again. "Projected". I think we have seen enough projections, predictions, and fucking models that turned out to be a crock of shit
You can't take ANY numbers seriously after numerous health organizations admitted to making up numbers. The math will be off. It is a futile to try to calculate it. The condititon for disesase exist. So far NO health organization has made ANY suggest to improve the health of ANYONE affected. All the suggestions have been 'tests' (useless), proving PPE (again does nothing). Why are their no suggestion to improve health, which has been proven to fight off infection? Sunlight, fresh air, exercise. This is what we need. As long as people are locked down THEY WILL GET SICK.
BREAK THE CYCLE. GO OUTSIDE AND EXERCISE.
William Morgan
>First of all, we don't really know that.
yes we do.
Nathan Foster
>lock everyone up for all time so I don't get the sniffles wow, another pansy totalitarian leftist, color me shocked
Levi Davis
WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU START TO BELIEVE IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ? ARE YOU A SHILL OR A MONGOLOID KID WHO GOT NO IDEA ABOUT HOW THE WORLD FUNCTIONS?
A jew.
Asher Nguyen
It’s called moving the goalposts. They don’t shut down the planet for the flu tho.
Camden Reyes
>COVID-19 has a CFR of 6.8% globally right now. Of confirmed cases, in a period where there is a shortage of testing capacity everywhere. The 6.*% doesn't say much in such a context..
>But you get all of these people saying "dude but there are asymptomatic cases", right? First of all, we don't really know that. We actually do. It's been reported time and time again that there are people infected that have no symptoms, or no symptoms yet.. It's also been confirmed that there are many people who experience only mild symptoms. >That's all very poorly understood right now and preliminary data, which is deeply flawed, floods in. But regardless, lets assume its true. Just saying it's poorly understood 3x doesn't make it true, user. It isn't poorly understood.. The majority of corona cases pass with mild symptoms, and the incubation time makes it so that there are necessarily many people out there carrying the virus without symptoms, or without showing them yet.
>But let's say, for arguments sake, the total death rate is .1%. The exact same CFR as the flu. OK, well guess what? The flu has asymptomatic cases too. Lol. Tons of them. And most people who get the flu DONT see medical help. Hahaha. So OK you can't just measure COVID-19 by one metric (total cases) and then influenza by another metric (confirmed cases only) and say "see dude? they are the same. COVID-19 is just a flu".
You realize that it´s very rare to actually test for the flu right? Flu death statistics are usually projections or models, or even just the attributions of ALL deaths over the average to 'the flu' in a year with a notable flu epidemic.. 2017/2018 being a recent example.
>IDK. It's just something that's been pissing me off about the rhetoric surrounding this whole thing. God damned Republicans are anti-science, man. That is the truth. I am sorry.
Are you sure you're not just confused by your own misunderstanding of how any of this works?
Brody Barnes
>Influenza has a CFR of .1%. That's .1% of confirmed cases. wrong. With influenza they use a model to estimate total cases based on the knowledge that the vast majority of cases do not get confirmed via PCR.
conversely, with coronavirus they're only looking at confirmed cases even though we know for a fact that the majority are mild cases and don't get reported, and over half are completely asymptomatic.
what is pissing you off is the complex mental gymnastics you are forcing upon youself while subconsciously knowing it is bullshit
Bentley Sullivan
Common sense says you should fuck off. I'm going about my day as normal, have been the entire time.
Imagine being a "cower in fear" pleb. Imagine.
Samuel Clark
Hospitals are listing natural deaths & cancer / heart attack deaths as being from Covid19. It’s just the flu and if it gets worse it’s the 5g frequencies being increased.
This music vid shows what they want, white sex slaves being traded around by the Chinese while most people are poor and smoke Aurora to make the high pitch frequencies stop.
>First of all, we don't really know that. WE DO WE KEEP FUCKING TELLING YOU TO LOOK AT CRUISE AND NAVAL SHIPS THEY HAVE 40-50% ASYMPTOMATIC RATES AND A REALIZED DEATH RATE OF 0.10-0.18%
Jayden Nelson
CFR is a meaningless statistic that has no purpose. The only number that actually matter is the death rate derived from total number of infected and the number of recovered after the epidemic is over. Problem is, there is a MASSIVE number of corona infected people with light or no symptoms who do not get tested, so the APPARENT death rate is many times worse than the real one.
In reality, this faggot little virus is less deadly than the flu.
Julian Nguyen
Why are you guys so shit at baiting, these days? At least be entertaining.
Wyatt Ross
Yas Forums is dumb as shit and you should take anything said here with a metric ton of salt
Eli Price
Any time you hear someone say "anti-science" punch them in the face as hard as you can and never speak to them again.
"anti-science" really means, "I have made up my mind based on some shit I heard and nothing you say or any questions you ask will change my mind, so just agree with me or you are primitive or something."
Tropics have flu all year round and people in poor countries can't afford to do a shutdown.
Landon Green
I am asymptomatic to nigger threads but not unsympathetic to niggers so Please just fuck off OP.
p.s. tell your mother she gave me gonorrhea
Landon Allen
Flu fatality is estimated because the vast majority of people don’t get diagnosed
Coronavirus isn’t estimated because it’s being “taken seriously” in a sense
Are you really this dumb? You think all the billions of people who get flu every year get diagnosed with it? Did you even bother doing any of the fucking math here? They literally just estimate flu diagnosis which is why there’s such a lower fatality rate, they have a better idea of the total number of people who have it and it’s way more than who’s tested
And obviously the same is for corona as they don’t even have nearly enough tests
Coronavirus is literally just a strain of flu that governments/elites decided to give a name to and cause hysteria over to try and control their populations and swindle more out of them by fucking with the economy
Look at all these piece of shit celebrities who’d do things like applaud Roman Polanski, now all shilling for the virus all the time from their stupid webcams
Gabriel Morales
Believing the fake news numbers.
Chase Jenkins
>anti-science >thinks the virus disproportionately affects niggers and spics Ok galaxy brain
