CORONA VIRUS VACCINE IS IMPOSSIBLE

There are several reasons why our upper respiratory tract is a hard area to target a vaccine.

"It's a separate immune system, if you like, which isn't easily accessible by vaccine technology," Professor Frazer told the Health Report.

Despite your upper respiratory tract feeling very much like it's inside your body, it's effectively considered an external surface for the purposes of immunisation.

"It's a bit like trying to get a vaccine to kill a virus on the surface of your skin."

Your skin, and the outer layer of cells in your upper respiratory tract act as a barrier to viruses, stopping them getting into the body.

And finding a way to neutralise the virus "outside" of the body is very difficult.

This is partly because only the outer layer of cells (the epthelial cells) get infected, which, compared to a severe infection of internal organs doesn't produce the same immune response, so is harder to target.

It's hard to produce a successful vaccine if the virus isn't activating a strong immune response.

And if a vaccine elicits an immune response that misses the target cells, the result could potentially be worse than if no vaccine was given.

"One of the problems with corona vaccines in the past has been that when the immune response does cross over to where the virus-infected cells are it actually increases the pathology rather than reducing it," Professor Frazer said.

"So that immunisation with SARS corona vaccine caused, in animals, inflammation in the lungs which wouldn't otherwise have been there if the vaccine hadn't been given."

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It’s fucking over.... I’m stuck living in my pod the rest of my life....

They used to ask mockingly how and when.. now these motherfuckers understand the sincerity of the National Socialist Revolution.

It's worse than that, natural immunity only lasts a few months at most.

>"Yes, you get antibodies after a [cold] infection, and yes it lasts for a while, but it's not lifelong... sort of months rather than years," he said.

>"I think it would be fair to say that the natural immunity that you get after infection from this coronavirus is probably going to turn out like the coronaviruses we've seen in the past.

Yet the place that it's most critical that we kill the virus is in the lower respiratory tract, because it kills you by causing pneumonia. If it only infects your upper respiratory tract, you get some coof and feel unpleasant but it ultimately isn't a real threat.

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Cases per capita in the west is is 20-50x higher than in East Asian countries.

This is 100% a bio-weapon.

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I won't be getting the vaccine at all when it comes out because i don't trust vaccination or the demons currently running the world.

If you're going to do it. Don't be the first in line. Let a bunch of other stupid fuckers be the initial guinea pigs. Wait a bit, see what happens. Then go get if, you feel you must. I wouldn't, but I'm not the boss of you.

A vaccine is possible, but there are a LOT of obstacles.

Best would probably be a viral vector vaccine where you infect yourself with a chimera-virus with the S-protein from coronachan and the rest of some weak virus that will still give a immune response and produce antibodies. Biggest worry is the short duration of immunization so we may have to infect ourselves with a virus every year for years....

Every vaccine is known to give a certain percentage of the people it's given to the disease it was intended to prevent. As an example, the Salk polio vaccine gave 40,000 kids polio. That's a fact.

If what you're saying is true, and we'll have to go through multiple rounds possibly spanning decades, we'll probably all get it from the vaccine anyway. So you might as well not even bother.

The polio-vaccine is a LAV (live attenuated virus) vaccine.

It's not the same with a vectored vaccine as it doesn't contain the "disease" itself, only the s-protein (hopefully).

You're not going to get covid from it (if it's a chimera), but it will probably have ADE after a while even if made properly so this will be a hard virus to get rid of, especially if it lives on in shit tier nations.

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>Yet the place that it's most critical that we kill the virus is in the lower respiratory tract,
"One of the problems with corona vaccines in the past has been that when the immune response does cross over to where the virus-infected cells are it actually increases the pathology rather than reducing it," Professor Frazer said.

"So that immunisation with SARS corona vaccine caused, in animals, inflammation in the lungs which wouldn't otherwise have been there if the vaccine hadn't been given."

"So that immunisation with SARS corona vaccine caused, in animals, inflammation in the lungs which wouldn't otherwise have been there if the vaccine hadn't been given."

Source? I know the vaccines failed but which one was this?

i only got the article
abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

but it's pretty clear now that coronavirus vaccine is impossible since it's the innate immune system that fights coronavirus, not the adaptive immune system, and for good reason

remember the commercial for double dose flu shot for seniors they had late last year?

WhY did they stop those? Hhrrrmm??

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Maybe they started putting more of the stuff in a regular dose in light of this discovery.

Oh it definitely fights (or tries). I managed to google that source and unfortunately not very informative. I absolutely believe we get some sort of immunity, but it may be weak and actually enhance later infections. Probably less than 18 months average full protection.

This will be an incredibly hard vaccine to make but it is possible, just needs (pretty sure) a new approach just like when they finally managed to make the HPV-vaccine.

You can google this and find better sources but we do have an immune system in there... that's how we clear out flu etc. We make antibodies too, but full immunization is short...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14583144
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1809999
erswhitebook.org/chapters/immunisation-against-respiratory-diseases/

I doubt that this doctor does not know what he is talking about so there must be something "missing" here. We definitely have an immune-system in upper respiratory tract.

I said earlier that a vectored vaccine is the most likely to succeed imho. Or DNA/RNA may work. It's definitely going to be a hard vaccine to make but if we can't make any this will wreck humanity in the long run so they will spend a lot of resources here.

>I absolutely believe we get some sort of immunity, but it may be weak and actually enhance later infections. Probably less than 18 months average full protection.
it's in the article again

>"Yes, you get antibodies after a [cold] infection, and yes it lasts for a while, but it's not lifelong... sort of months rather than years," he said.

>"I think it would be fair to say that the natural immunity that you get after infection from this coronavirus is probably going to turn out like the coronaviruses we've seen in the past.

If soap kills the virus, could you sedate the patient, put them on ecmo and wash out the virus?

What about the femin virus vaccine? Hrmmmmm

youtu.be/4BUqCiahXng

This. Be a gentleman and let others go first

They never even discovered a vaccine to the original SARS so I'm not holding my breath

Herd immunity is the only way

>They never even discovered a vaccine to the original SARS so I'm not holding my breath
they did, it backfired by increasing mortality from the increased immune response
>Herd immunity is the only way
herd immunity to coronavirus (common cold) is impossible, it only lasts a few months then the innate immune system forgets about it

>2020
>Still trusts RT.

Are you implying we have some chronic virus here?

it's called the common cold virus

I'm so glad I still have tonsils and adenoids.

How does life go back to normal?

I.E. Sports, Movies, Bars, Clubs, etc.

wear masks like China did, although our lock downs are in the process of evolving a virus so virulent that even masks might no longer be able to stop the exponential growth

>another retard ‘expert’ looking for their 15 minutes

Fuck off. We are already testing hundreds of different vaccines.

How come?

nigga what are you double spacing for? This isn't one of your book reports for college and it isn't reddit.