If you take away all government control, then something is going to happen, but it cannot be both.
How can both of these ideologies exist?
Leo Flores
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Christopher Johnson
how do you institute communism without force?
Wyatt Williams
Religion
Jason Foster
kumbaya everyone becomes class-conscious over night lets all hold hands shit
Liam Gonzalez
how do you guaranty property rights without a state?
Julian Thompson
With exceptions like Ellul and today Zizek most theorists were actively hostile to it.
Kayden Cox
Neither can happen because there will always be at least one person with enough strength and charisma to get people to accept him as their warlord.
Luis Taylor
I suppose the question is, when you take away the state, would people more naturally agree to the right of private property, or the right to share everything as public?
I'm not an-cap, but know that I think about it, I think the former seems a lot more "natural", most of us probably have an innate sense that we can own things that no one else has a right to
Kayden Anderson
The only rights that exist are the ones you are willing to enforce yourself.
Nathaniel Rogers
You cant its just a gate way into Jewish control
William Richardson
Rights don't exist people exist.
Ryan Foster
>take away all government control
it has actually happened, repeatedly, in history. and every single time, the exact same fucking thing happens. first people barter, then they start to use indirect exchange, then they establish money and use direct exchange. in other words, anarcho-capitalism.
...and then some fucking retards "organize" with the excuse that they're adding security and stability to the markets they have, and then you have government again. if man were not sinful in his core essence, he wouldn't do that last bit. he'd just buy a gun and make sure his neighbor had one too. there wouldn't be any reason to try to invent dumb fuck "communism" of any sort whatsoever.
Adrian Hughes
contracts and private arms, you fucking idiot.
Elijah Johnson
After the revolution.
I heckin' know I'll try to take control.
The question is, who's gonna stop me?
And the other millions like me?
Jordan Brooks
neither thats why anarchism is truly centrist
oh wow you should try that with your taxes
Thomas Russell
>the right to share everything as public
en.wikipedia.org
Nathaniel Powell
>tens of thousands of years of human history living in self-contained villages and communities with no government in sight
>1 millennium (max) of actual governments
HOE WE LIV WITOUT GUBMINT THO
Samuel Perez
Oh yeah, the good ol'
>everyone will suddenly respect all contracts out of goodwill
What'll happen is that anyone with a bigger army will render your private arms useless.
Elijah Fisher
it wont be universal then it wont work
how do you say break up the water table or the ocean into plot you cant only universally under the state poor argument
Owen Roberts
>1 millennium of actual governments
you think real governments started in the 11th century?
Luis James
I wonder how much rape is hidden by those communes.
Joshua Bailey
lol noce self btfo
Adam Gomez
Name one developed civilization that didn't have a government with a very clear leader.
Unless you're suggesting we all live like primitive tribes.
Which I support.
Colton Turner
Aside from a few notable exceptions, most of humanity lived without government until roughly that point
>Hurr muh Rome, China, Egypt Greece
A fraction of the species
>muh achievements
Those aren't your achievements. All that meant to you was pain and death in wars, suffering under industrialization, while your ancestors lived for land and family. They didn't give a shit about their "country".
Eli Clark
> How can both of these ideologies exist?
> If you take away all government control, then something is going to happen, but it cannot be both.
Future genetics
Evan Harris
>muh achievements
not an argument
>All that meant to you was pain and death in wars
its the complete opposite pic related
>They didn't give a shit about their "country".
who said anything about country the state has improved the individual
sound like you would love living in Somalia why even use and government funded even like the internet?
really makes you think
Brandon Foster
I don't understand anarchists, are they so naive to think that we can live without government?
The argument for the existence of the state was made centuries ago, we need a state to implement the laws because it is better than live in a state of nature, in a state of nature those defending anarchism would be the first to be killed.
Dylan Gonzalez
their argument is moral not logical
Logan Jackson
>most of humanity lived without government until roughly that point
>Rides into ur villiage with my chieftdom and btfos your whole family.
Heh, nothin personnel kid.
Justin Lopez
This.
Andrew Thompson
Anarchism =/= no government. It means no state. A state can be defined as any apparatus of force created through involuntary taxation.
Because Anarchism is highly localist, you could technically have AnCap and AnCom communities alongside each other if both agreed not to leave each other alone.
Carter Lewis
>Anarchism =/= no government. It means no state. A state can be defined as any apparatus of force created through involuntary taxation.
thats a really good point. i didnt think about it like that.