Can we have a somewhat rational discussion about the US response to the Corona Virus? There's a lot of shit being flung in the media so finding the truth is nearly impossible from them. I want to determine the quality of the response to the virus in this country given what was available to work with.
WHAT was done correctly?
WHAT was done incorrectly?
Federal response vs State response?
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Jan 3: The threat posed by the Wuhan epidemic is first mentioned in the daily briefing to the White House by U.S. intelligence
Jan 8: The World Health Organization warns that the 50 pneumonia cases in Wuhan may be caused by a new deadly virus related to SARS and MERS
Jan 13: Christian Drosten, who co-discovered the original SARS virus in 2003, now director of an Institute of Virology in Berlin, publishes the first paper on how to test for covid-19 ( "Diagnostic detection of Wuhan coronavirus 2019 by real-time RTPCR"). The test is adopted by the World Health Organization, that begins to circulate it. The USA istead decides to develop its own test.
Jan 18: Alex Azar II, Trump's health and human services secretary, calls Trump to warn him of the likelihood of a pandemic
Jan 19: Trump's adviser Peter Navarro, an expert on China, warns the US government of the possibility of a devastating epidemic that will cost $3.8 trillion to the US economy
Jan 20: Chinese scientist Zhong Nanshan confirms human-to-human transmission of the virus and the news is broadcast on national television CCTV
Jan 22: Tedros Ghebreyesus, director general of the World Health Organization, begins daily news briefings to warn the world that the virus is spreading and "we have a window of opportunity to stop this virus, but that window is rapidly closing"
Jan 22: Trump is interviewed from Davos on CNBC. Q: "Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?" A: "No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control."
Jan 23: China locks down the metropolis of Wuhan, an epochal event reported all over the world, that clearly shows the gravity of the epidemic
Jan 24: Trump thanks China in a tweet: "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency"
Jan 30: The World Health Organization declares a global public health emergency
Jan 31: Trump bars most foreigners who recently visited China from entering the USA, but no returning US citizen is screened
Feb 2: Trump is interviewed by Sean Hannity on Fox News. Q: "How concerned are you?". A: "Well, we pretty much shut it down."
Feb 5: The CDC sends faulty test kits to about 100 labs and prohibits the use of any other test kit (for example, New York is forbidden to use its own working test kit)
Feb 5: After senators meet with Trump administration officials about the threat of the epidemic, one of the senators, Christopher Murphy, tweets "Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough."
Feb 10: Trump at a rally tells thousands of people that: "when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away"
Feb 14: A memo by the National Security Council titled "U.S. Government Response to the 2019 Novel Coronavirus" advises "significantly limiting public gatherings and cancellation of almost all sporting events, performances, and public and private meetings
Feb 19: Trump speaks on a Phoenix television station: "I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along"
Feb 23: Trump declares that the virus is "very much under control. We had 12, at one point. And now they've gotten very much better. Many of them are fully recovered."
Feb 23: Trump's adviser Peter Navarro again warns the US government of a "covid-19 pandemic that could infect as many as 100 million Americans, with a loss of life of as many as 1.2 million souls" and "could inflict trillions of dollars in economic damage" (read excerpts here)
Feb 24: Robert Kadlec of the Health and Human Services Department present Trump with a plan titled "Four Steps to Mitigation," advising quarantine and lockdowns
Feb 25: Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warns on television about the danger of the epidemic
Feb 26: Trump says at a coronavirus briefing that "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
Feb 27: Trump at a White House press conference predicts that "It's going to disappear. One day - it's like a miracle - it will disappear"
Feb 28: The World Health Organization has shipped covid tests to more than 50 countries that requested it while the USA still doesn't have a working test
Feb 28: Trump at a South Carolina rally blames CNN and MSNBC for creating unnecessary panic and later writes a tweet mocking "Cryin' Chuck Schumer" who argued that the USA should be more aggressive in fighting the virus.
Feb 29: Trump praises his actions as "the most aggressive taken by any country" when in fact the USA is one of the few Western countries that is not taking any action.
Feb 29: The F.D.A. finally approves New York's test kit and New York can start testing
Feb 29: Trump's surgeon general Jerome Adams tweets "Seriously people - STOP BUYING MASKS!"
Mar 2: Trump interviewed by Hannity on Fox News: "It's very mild"
Mar 3: Stephen Hahn, the F.D.A.'s commissioner, promises one million tests by March 10 ("By the end of this week, close to a million tests will be able to be performed.")
Mar 4: Italy has 3,089 cases and all schools and universities are ordered to close but visitors from Europe are still allowed to enter the USA
Mar 5: Trump, interviewed by phone on Sean Hannity's show, minimizes covid-19's threat to the USA, accuses the World Health Organization of disinformation, and suggests that infected people are safe to go to work: "I think the 3.4% is really a false number... a lot of people will have this, and it's very mild - they'll get better very rapidly, they don't even see a doctor, they don't even call a doctor... I would say the number is way under one percent." (Note: he calls it "corona flu")
Mar 6: Trump while touring the C.D.C. says that "Anybody that wants a test can get a test" but is contradicted by the CDC itself (the only available test kits are defective)
Mar 6: Trump while touring the C.D.C. tells a reporter: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."
Mar 6: Trump discusses keeping sick US citizens on a cruise ship off the coast of California because he doesn't want them counted in the US total (quote: "I would rather because I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault. And it wasn't the fault of the people on the ship either, OK? It wasn't their fault either, and they're mostly Americans. So, I can live either way with it.")
Mar 6: The Atlantic calculates that only 2,000 tests have been performed in the USA (article). By comparison, tiny South Korea is testing some 10,000 people a day.
Mar 6: Patty Murray, a member of the Senate's health committee, sends a letter to vicepresident Mike Pence, to health secretary Alex Azar, to CDC director Robert Redfield, and to FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn asking: "Please provide an explanation for why the Covid-19 diagnostic test approved by the World Health Organization was not used". She receives no answer.
Mar 7: Trump declares from his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida: "I'm not concerned at all. We've done a fantastic job" while no (working) test kits are available anywhere in the USA
Mar 8: Ben Carson, Trump's secretary of Housing and Urban Development and a member of the White House's coronavirus task force, encourages "healthy individual" to attend a large-scale Trump campaign rally (quote: "there's no reason that you shouldn't go").
Mar 9: Trump tweets that "last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!"
Mar 9: The situation is so serious in Italy that Italy enacts a nation-wide lockdown, the first time in history, but visitors from Europe are still allowed to enter the USA
Mar 10: Trump at a Washington press conference declares that "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."
Mar 10: The CDC announces that 78 state and local health labs in the United States have the capacity to test people for covid-19, which means that about 75,000 people can get tested, obviously a number far lower than the one million promised on March 3.
Mar 11: Trump finally admits a crisis with an Oval Office address and bans most Europeans from entering the USA, but tens of thousands of returning US residents are exempted and not tested (despite the fact that all the clusters in the USA started with returning US residents)
Mar 12: Trump says that "frankly, the testing has been going very smooth"
Mar 12: Ashish Jha, head of the Harvard Global Health Institute states that "Our response is much, much worse than almost any other country that's been affected" and uses the words "stunning," "fiasco" and "mind-blowing" to describe how bad the US has acted so far.
Mar 12: Pandemic expert James Lawler writes in an email "We are making every misstep leaders initially made in table-tops at the outset of pandemic planning in 2006... We have thrown 15 years of institutional learning out the window and are making decisions based on intuition."
Mar 13: Trump declares a national emergency in the USA, and commercial firms are finally able to start testing for covid-19, almost two months after the first case was detected in the USA
Mar 14: Tens of thousands of unscreened US citizens fly back to the USA from Europe, and on arrival are forced to wait in crowded rooms with thousands of other unscreened passengers
Mar 15: The USA is now the 8th country in the world for covid-19 cases after China, Italy, Iran, Korea, Spain, France and Germany.
Mar 16: Trump at the White House tells reporters that "Relax. We're doing great. It all will pass." Asked by a reporter how he would score his administration's response to the crisis on a scale of one to 10, he replies: "I'd rate it a 10. I think we've done a great job." Meanwhile, with no guidance from Washington, 40 states have declared an emergency over the virus, 29 states have closed all schools, millions of people are already working from home, the whole San Francisco Bay Area (including Silicon Valley) has placed itself on lockdown.
Mar 19: The USA is now the 6th country in the world for covid-19 cases after China, Italy, Iran, Spain and Germany
Mar 22: The USA is now the 3rd country in the world for covid-19 cases after China and Italy
Mar 24: Margaret Harris, the World Health Organization spokeswoman, tells reporters that "we are now seeing a very large acceleration in cases in the USA" and could become the new epicenter of the epidemic
Mar 24: During a live town-hall meeting (which was actually held not at a town hall but at the White House), Trump says: "We lose thousands and thousands of people a year to the flu. We don't turn the country off... We lose much more than that to automobile accidents. We don't call up the automobile companies and say stop making cars. We have to get back to work... We're not going to let the cure be worse than the problem... This was a medical problem, we are not going to let it turn into a long lasting financial problem."
Mar 28: The USA (population 0.3 billion) has more people infected with covid-19 than the whole of east Asia (population 2 billion)
31: The number of people filing for unemployment benefits in March is the highest of all time (6.6 million)
Apr 2: Trump says that "complainers" (i.e. state governors) seeking greater amounts of medical supplies "should have stocked up" before the crisis, laying the blame on powerless states for his government's delays in releasing medical supplies from the USA's strategic stockpile created by his predecessors
Apr 2: Trump claims that the USA has tested more people per capita than any other country, when in fact the USA does not have a central source of statistics on testing, most of which is done by private labs, and the most widely-cited count is an unofficial count by the Covid Tracking Project, which collects data provided by journalists and scientists, and that count shows the USA as testing a lot less than other countries (here)
Apr 3: After claiming for two months that they are useless, the CDC recommends that people wear face masks, but Trump promptly declares that he will not be wearing one
Apr 3: Donald Trump tells governors that they are on their own, that they should not expect help from the federal government
Apr 4: China donates 1,000 ventilators to New York
Apr 9: Two genomic studies (one by Harm van Bakel's team at Mount Sinai and one by Adriana Heguy's team at NYU) show that New York's covid-19 epidemic originated from Europe
Apr 9: Trump accuses the World Health Organization of basically having misled him (but somehow the rest of the world wasn't misled because Trump was one of the few leaders who downplayed the gravity of the situation)
Apr 10: Trump accuses China over the covid-19 epidemic, the same country that he had praised for its "efforts and transparency" on Jan 24
Apr 11: The USA surpasses Italy for highest death toll in the world from covid-19
Apr 12: Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, admits that lives could have been saved if Trump had listened to the experts (Yahoo News)
Apr 13: Trump again repeats the claim that the USA has tested more people per capita than any other country, when in fact the USA does not have an official count but all unofficial counts show that the USA has tested half of the people tested in Italy
Apr 13: Seven northeastern neighbors (New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Delaware, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island) announce a coordinated strategy to reopen business, ignoring Trump. Three western states (California, Oregon and Washington) announce their own coordinated strategy, also ignoring Trump.
Apr 14: Instead of admitting that he caused the delays that are killing tens of thousands of people, Trump blames the World Health Organization, that in January 22 had publicly stated "we have a window of opportunity to stop this virus, but that window is rapidly closing". He accuses the World Health Organization of making all of the mistakes that he has made since the beginning.
Apr 14: Two epidemiologists, Britta Jewell and Nicholas Jewell calculate that tens of thousands of lives could have been saved if the USA had acted just two weeks earlier.
Apr 15: Fox News (Trump's propaganda network) spins the conspiracy theory that the virus was made in a Chinese lab and ignores the theory that the virus was made in a US lab.
Apr 16: Trump addresses the nation saying that the USA has passed the peak of the pandemic, crediting his strategy ("it is clear that our strategy is working, and very strongly working") when in fact each state adopted its own strategy and there never was a national strategy
If you go to this website and sort the information by deaths per million of population it will give you an indication of how well the US has responded to the virus in comparison to the rest of the world.
worldometers.info
I fix supermarkets in Northern NJ. People have just started taking it seriously starting about 2 weeks ago. There's still a shit ton of people out and about bullshitting. 1 mile lines to get into Wal-Mart. Nobody takes this shit seriously here.
Where did you pull this timeline from? What's the source on this.
>What happened correctly:
We shut down the borders and have done more testing than all other nations on earth combined. We have an awesome healthcare infrastructure.
>What was done incorrectly:
We took advice from WHO and thought that China flu was something special.
>Federal response vs. State response
California is cucked.
>Trump: The virus is a hoax
>the virus is actually real
>Trump: the media underestimated the virus. they are to blame
And instead of admiting his mistake, he becomes an ignorant twat and then tries to downplay the virus while blaming everyone but himself
>americans literally voted for this guy
Donald Trump fired the pandemic response team.
Donald Trump cut funding to the CDC
Donald Trump claimed the coronavirus was a democrat hoax
Donald Trump repeatedly claimed "we have it under control"
Donald Trump declared an emergency, but by then it was too late.
Donald Trump lies and misleads repeatedly in his daily pressers.
Donald Trump is trying to save the economy by "opening up America" because he wants to appease his millionaire and billionaire buddies more than the lives of the American people.
>have done more testing than all other nations on earth combined
pure fiction , how you can lie so blatantly when the numbers are there for any one to see means you are a shill
I think the stimulus package for the american people was a good thing, but the corporate bail-puts are shameful. If you're against the government giving hand outs to the needy, you should feel the same way about them giving corporations billions and billions of dollars. I also know it was done with the ulterior motive. It was a campaign stunt for the DJT campaign. I dislike how he's rushing things, trying to shift blame from his initial inaction to anyone else he can. He is doing very dangerous things like inflating USD and preventing further spread of the virus by covering his eyes and pretending everything is better now- not to mention exacerbating tensions and alluding to civil war. 5000 americans died in 24 hours. That's almost double the death toll of 9/11.
He has FAILED to contain the virus, he has FAILED the economy with band-aid fixes, he has FAILED the American people, and he has FAILED the presidency through and through.
He won't be getting a vote from me. That's all.
Every single one of those lines can be googled and at least one source comes up. To include sources for every single part of the timeline would be extraneous.
I got it from here, if that's what you're asking. But it's accurate. Search any of them and please do let me know if I'm wrong.
We have the most confirmed cases, by far. It stands to reason that we have a good measure for the most confirmed testing. Show me something different and to-date. I would like to be proven wrong.
Everyone is going to die. Now go fuck yourself you degenerate democrat communist faggot.
faggot found with a dick up its ass and sucking Mike Obama`s dick.
>We shut down the borders and have done more testing than all other nations on earth combined.
The most fucked state of New York has literally made just twice as many tests as there are reported cases. 1 in 2 test results are positive. None of the other regions in the world are this fucked.
Reaction to the "pandemic" and what values ppl consider most important has been very partisan. Polling indicates 85 percent of Republicans think trump has handled the response well and barely 16 percent of Democrats think hes done a good job. So Democrats scared as shit, Republicans yolo!! 60 percent of all folks polled are worried about the economy tho. This isnt entire ly s nothing burger its definitely a 7-11 grade microwave burger...
This should have been a response to this
New York is a shit show, no doubt. The tests confirm this... they're are also 100% more than have been done in a place like Mexico. This is what brainlets don't get: the virus is fucking everywhere. Some of the carriers are ignorant, scared of going to a hospital, or just flat-out asymptomatic. America is not an exception on the global stage. It has so many confirmed cases because it is so on the fucking ball.
All you need to know...
Trump called for a travel ban end of January, when the WHO and the CDC were still doubting human to human transmission.
Since then, it's been a shit show in almost every country's response.
Dr. FAUCI, had one job for 36 years and 6 presidents...prep for a pandemic. He failed, miserably.
The US is a festering shithole that exists for only one reason, to finance wars for Israel
We need to virus-proof more of our biochemical supply lines so that we can ramp up production of necessary medicines.
He never said the virus was a hoax, you moron.
They let it happen to protect globalization.
Anyone who thinks the 'elite' are ready to stop selling us out to china is completely delusional. The only reason this happened is they chose to infect the world before letting china become a pariah state whose citizens are forced to undergo special testing to enter any other country.
The globalists did this to us. They let it happen. Every person on pol knew by early january what was happening. So did the intelligence agencies. We have been completely setup.
The fact that no major country has attempted an all out media blitz to convince people of the globalist agenda proves they are ALL in on it to some degree, even if they think they are 'in on' a fake plan meant for 2nd and 3rd tier globalist partners.
All that is required to stop globalization is to make every single western citizen with more than 2 generations of family BORN in the countries they inhabit (generational tax payers) to understand pic related.
Need to go back a bit further...
Mar 28
Trump gets some great ratings
It boils down to this. Hindsight is always 20/20. The media saying what trump should of done in not a valid argument. Also since this is a worldwide pandemic blaming trump for this is dumb as fuck. Seeing as every country is going through this I guess we can blame trump for that also.
I hate kikes as much as the next guy but... how can you seriously believe this. Are you brown? That might explain it.
>I hate kikes as much as the next guy but... how can you seriously believe this. Are you brown? That might explain it.
The numbers and our current situation prove it.
We are totally dying out - our children already replaced by Hispanics in the schools, our elderly will die, and USA will turn majority hispanic within 5-7 years from now.
Anyone who has looked at the numbers understands legal immigration [white genocide] has been the primary tool used to replace us. Over a million a year pouring in decade after decade since the 1980s. They have already replaced us. Our children are under 50% of the students under 18 now. We have quite literally already been genocided and it is now a slow decline, managed by opportunist psychopaths such as obama or trump. It is over. We lost. More legal immigration is just nails in the coffin.
This is how I feel about it. And the way the democrats and media have continued to politicize it makes me think they don’t think it’s actually serious.
He strongly implied it. Watch a full recording of the rally for context though.
>mutt 'reponse'
One cannot rationally discuss irrational notions.
>literally, the catalyst for muttland's implosion
>catalyst for muttland's implosion
Plus it's an election year. So of course the media as well as trump are gonna politicize this. We are going through this now but we still have an election coming up.
If you think Hispanics will replace whites in the united states, I have some news for you: they are only here because of white productivity. What we're looking at is the balkanization of the U.S... maybe, but never the outright replacement of Anglo-Americans. The system can't sustain itself otherwise. None of this has anything to do with retarded wars for Israel. Grow up, get some perspective, and read a fucking book instead of spouting stupid shit on Yas Forums.
THEY ALREADY DID.
After the productivity runs out, there will be like 300,000,000 of them here, and they will just allow the cartels and jews to run them like the slaves they are.