WTF is really going on with this lockdown? Why does Big Business want it to continue?
Sweden Never locked down and their curve is flattening
I give this thread about 30 posts tops before mutts law is invoked
Because they want you to be a slave. Covid is overrated.
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big business wants the shutdown to continue because it's killing small and medium businesses.
Cause it’s just the flu
Boy it's almost like we're dealing with the seasonal flu
because they're lying cucks
>he believes in communist propaganda
Even if there is no government issued lockdown, people reduce their movement and presence in public spaces on their own. Not to the same level as elsewhere but still significantly.
Also, most of this is happening in Stockholm. And it's too early to have any flattening as a result of reduced social activity, the curve is mostly responding to weekday specific fluctuations in reportings, delayed reports of some provinces and testing that is not representative.
You can't have new cases if you stop testing. Great achievemnt, Sven!
Swedes have been practicing social distancing for centuries.
minus the runny nose so actually it's far less bad
That’s not really flattening. In fact, the virus could be just taking off right now.
This frankly. There appears to be weekly dips in that data - probably because record keeping is poorer at certain times. The most recent dip is still higher than the previous dip, suggesting the curving is still rising.
I’d give it another week before I started bragging about Sweden. When I look at their curve I see a lot of “Noise” in the “Signal”. Almost like an EKG. That’s no “curve”, it’s a saw blade.
The Federal Reserve started infusing banks with repo loans in November when virus broke
Israeli TV now reporting USA warned them about Covid19 in November
The Virus is REAL the pandemic is the HOAX
>Sweden Never locked down and their curve is flattening
It only looks like that because it on average takes several days for a death to get officially registered. Pic related. Red line are registered corona death on april 4th up until april 4th. Black line are the updated numbers 5 days later after most deaths up until april 4th have been registered. All of a sudden the curve isn't flattening any more.
social distancing fucking sucks, and im always home but now i want to go out do stuff and i cant, fuck this shit sweden is based. i should never have moved here from sweden
yes im a summerfag, hence the incoherent retardness
Because American life is highly litigous, with never having had the torte reform that most of the world has had in the mid 50's to late 70's. As such, businesses are open to a WIDE range of nuisance suits that would otherwise be thrown out immediately elsewhere. Also, because so much of a person's safety net, including health insurance, unemployment insurance, workman's comp, ect, are provided and paid for *by* buisnesses, they are ALSO open to a whole host of potential payouts that would otherwise just come out of general tax dollars elsewhere.
This creates a situation where business, particularly those that are open to and serve the public directly (thus opening themselves up to an even wider range of civil torte) are genuinely in fear of the potential claims. I mean, for example, let's say you go to a baseball game, get sick in the stadium, and die. Your family could feasibly sue the stadium/team for wrongful death for not taking the necessary precautions, cleaning, limiting of participants ect. And it wouldn't just be 1 lawsuit, but potentially hundreds. some of which could be your own employees.
It's just WAY too big of a risk. It's much easier to fire half your staff and go into economic hibernation, and rehire them after the situation has abated, than open yourself up to all the potential litigation.
Source: I am the Chief Engineer for a major food manufacturer and am privy to the conversations at the top of the chain and how and why we are scaling back operations. And likewise, I hear from our customers *their* reasons for scaling back operations and they align. And further, because I mostly deal with purchasing equipment, I see how *those* industries are functioning and scaling back and the reasons why.
So the system breakdown is near complete, and almost entirely borne of the lack of torte reform in the US.
Like last time you made this thread. When did it start flattening Apr 3 or Apr 15?
Ok but the thread is about Sweden, retard
He asked why Big Business wants the lock down to continue, my post is an inside look as to the *stated* reasons, at least how I've discussed it with our CEO/COO and the same positions at a number of *very* large down/up stream companies from me (including a major retail chain... or *the* major retail chain). I don't know or care what Sweden is doing, but I do happen to know why American big businesses are hesitant to end the lockdown and supporting its continuation as long as is necessary to mitigate their risk. It's very easy to scale back operation costs by just shutting everything down and firing the base line employees(non salaried), vs. the potential cost of even *1%* of them filing suits in a single year. The legal costs alone could make it all but impossible to continue capital investment (new equipment, acquisitions, ect) when this is over, whereas on our current path, we will be able to scale *up* our capital acquisitions when this is over. And we are not special, this is a *common* story among the other Fortune 500.
Maybe the country that lies about school girls receiving severe beatings and anal gang rapes by refugees is lying about their virus problem?
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That is not how it work, even if the reporting is late, it is still reported.
Also the dips is because its weekend and some section is either understaffed or shutting down for it. You're Swedish right? Why are you not aware of this?
15th and 16th should have recorded higher number than similar timeframe as the previous 2 weeks in order for it to be peaking instead of flattening.
Look at the graph. Is Sweden really flattening the curve? Yes or no.
Idiot who lives in the country in question actually believes it's a communist one because he's an idiot
There should be some law against suing a company for damages in a pandemic.
Well, in order for it to be peaking, today and yesterday numbers need to be higher than 8th and 9th, but it isn't.
Its likely it will be flattened, but I'll wait till end of this weekend to make the call.
Obsessed Burger Law:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of an American mentioning China approaches 1
I mean, why the fuck are you guy so obsessed with China - you bring them into literally every discussion.
In most countries there are, in the US, not so much, as we never had Tort reform. Likewise, more importantly, because so little of the social safety net is covered by taxes/provided by the government, and is instead covered by the employer, any problems that arise *during* the situation, even if we remained in operation at full capacity, could destroy our operating income. I have several plants in Canada, South Africa, the UK, Western Europe, SEA, and China, and I can say without *question* that I prefer sending work to Canada and countries where the safety net comes from the government. Even though our nominal tax rate is *higher* in those countries, our actual operating costs are SO much lower that it's a joke.
Let me give you a very simple but real example: we have plants in both Ontario, and in Tennessee (along with every other food manufacturer). When I have a project come through that involves heavy labour, we estimate costs per hour of ~$48 to $58 per *lowest* tier, as in slightly above minimum wage, for the *American* employees, vs. ~$18-20 per hour (all in USD) for the Canadian employee. HOWEVER, the Tennessee employee only receives ~$10-11 an hour, while the Canadian employee is closer to $12-13. So how come the nominally similar per hour take home rates result in a MASSIVELY different operating per hour rate? Because we don't pay for the health insurance, malpractice insurance, workman's comp, unemployment, ect for the Canadian employee, nor are the Union (unions are in both facilities) fees even REMOTELY comparable (literally a 10th of the cost in Canada vs. the US). As such, not only do we make MORE money off the Canadian labor, we ALSO pay him more per hour. It's a genuine win-win.
Contrary to popular belief, those in the leadership of major companies *want* a Socialized Health Service in the US, mostly because it translates into *less* costs for us. And have *no* illusions, the current system *COSTS* US jobs;I do it all the time.