I’m curious about how much the mongol invasions affected Eastern European dna. What happened to the Rus?
Are they mongols?
Jace Myers
Isaiah Foster
Muscovy was a vassal state of mongols, so they only collected taxes and granted the right of rule, not much intermixing
Mason Peterson
Facial features of some prove they have come as far as Poland, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland...
Wyatt Turner
No. Some of the whitest people I’ve ever seen were in Ireland and Russia and Switzerland. You have Kazaks there, and some Uzbeks as well, they are here and there, but for the most part the vast majority of Russians are white, with some in southern Russia looking Italian.
Jeremiah Lopez
Parker Cruz
Eurasians. Nordic + Finno-Ugric + Asian + Middle Eastern + Jewish.
Leo Sanchez
What I'm more interested about is how the Bashkirs are related to Germans... check out haplogroup.
Isaac Walker
Some Russians undoubtedly have Mongolian genes, but they usually look like they are Asian or Kazak.
Ryan Rodriguez
Chink rape babies.
Nolan Lee
This, Eurasia.
Brody Allen
Russia != Rus.
Rus = Ukraine+Belarus, confirmed by unbroken chain of culture and language from 9th century to today.
Russia aka Muscowia aka Ulus Dzhuchi aka Part of Golden Horde and then paying tribute to Golden Horde till 1700 are a collection of finno-ugric tribes who adapted Slavic culture and transformed Church Slavonic Bulgarian language into first written than spoken one.
Mind you, nothing wrong with being finno-ugric, but larping as slavs is cringe.
Landon Scott
I bless this answer. Also pic related
Lincoln Harris
Whom did Russia steal their symbols from?
>Name
The name of present-day Russia has changed many times over the centuries, as the Russian matryoshka - from Zalesye, Suzdal, Moxel, Muscovy, Muscovy, Russian Empire, USSR to the Russian Federation. In ancient times, our ancestors did not use the name Rus, for example, for the whole of present Ukraine, because this name appeared only in the VI century and related to the territory of the Middle Dnieper. It is the Greek name of our country at that time, and Muscovy stole it because the real Russia was southwest of the Moscow lands, it was not captured and assimilated by the Muscovites. It was also the case that from time to time, this Russia fought against Muscovy on its own, as well as as part of various coalitions.
As mentioned above, the Muscovy took, or rather stole, a new name for itself - the Greek transcription of the word "Rus". But there are no peoples who invent their own language in a foreign language. And the Muscovy did it. The fact is that in the Middle Ages, before the annexation of Ukraine, Moscow could not take or steal the name Rus, because it was well known to everyone that Russia was Ukraine.
>Nationality
They are the descendants of the Finno-Ugric tribes, mentioned in their chronicles by Nestor, separating the Slavs from the Finno-Ugric people: "the northerners, the bougies - for they sit on the [Bug] river - and then the Volhynians. And here are the other peoples who pay tribute to Russia: murom, cheremisy, mordva, moksha, us, cher`. These have their language, [they] come from the tribe of Japheth, for they dwell in the north.”
Michael Ross
Actual name for Russia is Rus. Back then Muscowy was "Grand Duchy of Moscow". Only retarded Polacks were using "Muscowy" name.
>finno-ugric
Again, the poolish russophobic meme
Eli Wood
>Flag
Was it Dutch, Mongolian or local Chuvash one?
All the peoples of Europe know their colors, colors, their colors - we don’t know them, and we confuse them by raising multi-colored flags out of place. We don’t have a national color; army color: green and red; official color, military, St. George: white, hot, black (silver, gold, black), and this is the color of the badges (cockade); our banners and fortress flags are multi-colored; the sea military flag is white with the Andreev cross; merchant: white, blue, red, along; what colors should I wear and wear "How to decorate buildings, etc. at peaceful folk celebrations?" ( V. I. DAL. "Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language." 1863-1866.)
Pre-revolutionary historians are unanimous in thinking that the first Russian naval flag was hoisted aboard the Orel ship in 1669. This flag exactly replicated the flag of the Netherlands - the country where the ship was built.
If you try to somehow justify King Peter, then maybe he, an ardent supporter of all Dutch, decided that since the ship was built for him, so is the flag on the mast of this ship - too? ..
Be that as it may, but this is how the future flag of the state, which later became Russia, was launched in the Moscow kingdom. The Netherlands flag
Netherlands flag (Orange strip replaced with red in 1660). The same flag was worn from 1669 to 1720 by the ships of the Peter fleet.
Initially, the order of placing the three strips on the flags of the Russian fleet was exactly like the Dutch. The reason is the Russian flag, which repeats the drawing and color of the flag of Holland, with which
Therefore, in 1720, especially without wisdom, Peter I simply changed the order of colors of the Dutch flag.
But then the white-blue-red flag was not yet a state Russian flag. By the end of the XIX century. it was used solely as a "fun" nautical pennant the commercial flag of the Moscow kingdom, and further - the Russian Empire.
Jack Mitchell
>Coat of arms
Larping as "Byzantine" or nomad heritage? Undoubtedly, the Byzantine Emperors had already made a number of attempts to Christianize Russia, only through the Paleologists their plan worked, and Russia, thanks to the Tatar invasion, was annexed to the Christian empire.
It should be understood that Byzantium was an empire, the main governing force in which there was always a church, and if various attempts to annexation of Russia did not bring Byzantium to success, I did not absolutely enslave the slave-owning citizens of Russia.
So in 988 the attempt to annexation of Rus Vasily II, when he betrayed his sister Anna as Prince Vladimir, gave the desired effect.
And in 1046, when Constantine IX Monomakh again achieved the marriage of his sister Anastasia with the son of Yaroslav the Wise - Vsevolod, who later became the mother of Vladimir Monomakh, also did not become a reference point in the process of Christianization of.
More effective for Byzantium was the alliance with the Mongol-Tatars, who in 1240 flooded into Russia, and sweeping in their path all the pagan and Catholic temples established in its territory a protectorate, with the constant subordination of Byzantium.
It was after the establishment of the Byzantine-Tatar protectorate that Constantinople, approaching the marriage concluded between the dynasties, the noble Khan of Uzbekistan, allowed him to use the symbolism of the Empire.
So Khan Uzbek became a Palaeologist after marrying Mary Bayalun Palaeologus, daughter of Andronicus II, although it is believed that she was his mother, but that is not yet a fact.
It was Khan Uzbek who became the main sponsor of the Moscow kingdom, placing his vassal Ivan I, better known as Ivan Kalita, on the throne of Moscow.
Brandon Gray
>Language of the literature
Basically made up by Pushkin from French and old church Slavonic one. The last one came from Bulgaria.
In 1957, in the fifth edit of the magazine "Questions of linguistics" on page 67, Moscow language studies by Professor M. Fassner were published. From the 4-volume etymological dictionary Trubachev he selected and analyzed the origin of 10779 Russian words and concluded that:
6304 words, or 58.3%, are borrowed from other European languages;
1119 words, or 10.3%, are of unknown origin;
3191 words, or 29.5%, of Ukrainian origin;
72 words, or 0.8%, of Slavic origin;
93 words, or 0.9%, of Russian, ie Moscow, origin.
Connor Barnes
Yes.
Evan Young
>Samovar
Samovar is said to be a Russian invention. Nothing like! The first samovar prototype appeared in China 3,000 years ago. Samurai were first imported to Russia from the Caucasus only in the eighteenth century. Then the Russians had a tradition of tea drinking. But the homeland of bagels is the Belarusian city of Smorgon. They were used as a soldering iron for the students of the local academy. Dumplings should not be considered a national dish of Russians either. From Udmurt "dumplings" means bread ear.
>Matroshka
The first Russian dolls artist Sergey MalYutin made at the end of the XIX century. He created it in the image of a Japanese toy - the figures of the Buddhist sage Fukuram, which contains 5 more dolls nested in each other. By the way, the name "matryoshka" comes from the name Motry. In the early 20 th century in Russia, "Matryoshka" was called women who worked as nannies and raised children from other families.
>Vodka
Russians claim that they were the first to create vodka. And it happened in the 15th century under the reign of John III. Such statements are outright nonsense! At that time, Muscovy was part of the Golden Horde and was… a Muslim state. And Islam, for example, forbids alcohol. In fact, vodka comes from Poland. The first mention of the shackled, Polish "fishing rod" dates from 1405 in court acts of Sandomierz Voivodeship.
Grayson White
Non-meme answer is no, but here on Yas Forums I would like to thank my Mongol anchestors for my warrior spirit and pillage Western Europe with my Finngolian blood brothers
Owen Bailey
posting in butthurt thread
Nolan Adams
The girl all the way on the left definitely has some chink genes
Jayden Bailey
Who cares, still whiter then muttland or european arabic colony
Angel Long
Mongol invasion is a meme. Siberians lived in Russia well before any slavs even existed.
Justin Lewis
slavs are not aboroginal to the territories muscowy always possessed neither there is written or archeological evidence of colonization, conquest or resettlement from Rus to the lands that were occupied by finno-ugric tribes of Mordva, Erzya, etc.
There is nothing wrong with being finno-ugric, Sumi/Karels/Finns/Latvians/Estonians/Hungarians are perfectly fine people, arguably doing way better than most Slavs, why do you need to larp as Slavs?
John Moore
well it is a modern photo, during USSR there was way more migration and mixing so, whatever, general phenotype is not chinklike, so she's more of exception that confirms the rule
Josiah Kelly
You didn't sit on the throne of Ulus Dzhuchi (aka Muscovy Duchy) without a trip to ask a permission from Golden Horde ruler.
Crimean Khaganate as a direct inheritor of Golden Horde received tribute from Muscow till 1700.
"meme"
Xavier Diaz
Spare us your nation building soros funded history, cockhole.
Isaiah Morris
Because we are Slavs, hohol
Xavier Taylor
Psuedo-mongols i.e. Uralic mutts. I think Russians with the Uralic mutt phenotype look way worse than Mongols. Mongols have soul at least. Those weird-looking Russians are just braindead psychopaths.
Kevin Morris
You can ignore him, guys.
Mason Bennett
thanks god i am n1, not retard slavic shit
Caleb Cooper
For many years I ask Yas Forums kids one simple thing: show me Mongol genes in Russian DNA. It always ends up the same way: lots of cope, mental gymnastics, and 0 proofs every time.