How would divorce work if government wasn't involved in marriage?
it was from a time when women didn't work
Women would probably stop asking for a divorce and they would just ask the men they're having affairs with to kill their husbands.
I wonder if there is a parable about this situation
Neverending lawsuits over property and child custody. Which is the reason government is involved in marriage to begin with.
Divorce rates and states "income streams" would plummet. See 42 USC 666
Not true, only reason why state is involved because of legal doctrine (parens patrae).
The Jews would work endlessly to get government involved in marriage.
There's also the old "I stayed home with the kids and never made something of myself. You need to give me money for the next 10 years." No real way to remove the government at this point.
strangle the whore with piano wire and cremate the body in your home forge
Well, let's assume there's two types of marriages, just for the sake of spelling it out.
>(religious) marriage
>civil union
In an ideal world, there in fact only exists these two types.
>marriage
Is fundamentally between two people of a religion, I'm sure there's some religion that allows faggotry, but most don't. So it's a man and a woman. They get married with a priest. So, they'd probably have to let the priest or public (at their discretion) know that they're no longer married, and that's that.
>civil union
could be between anyone, and would likely just be as easy as printing out a public notice in the newspaper.
Since a government-free marriage means no tax benefits, communal property, or anything else like that, there's nothing to fight over, including child support and alimony. This is what MGTOW weirdos are asking for - the elimination of risk from a marriage, or (in the reasonable cases), the equalization of risk.
You should consider instead, a government-involved marriage, where the rights of people entering into it over leaving it, are equitable, as your ideal.
Just dont involve state when you get married, the end. Opt for common law marriage. Your wife or future wife should be cool with that unless shes a jew
This is your answer. The legal implications of a divorce were coined when women didn't tradionally work.
Today, a divorce should NEVER take anything from anyone and give it to another, unless there is a lawful contract signed beforehand that explicitly denotes this. I don't think it's unfair for women not to work and to want something in the case of a divorce (since she might be a housewife or something and work hard, though not be paid) but for these cases an agreement should be signed beforehand.
divorce be illegal.
problems solved.
>Opt for common law marriage
Doesn't mean shit. She'll still take you to court and drain your bank account.
rape lol
How can she when we she was opting for a religious only marriage. Explain the legal resoning to your arguement. Most cases that go infront of judge like this are often just dissolved. Women can no longer seek the state to enforce their reckless decisions.
Divorce would drop drastically and people would be happier.
It should be blood in and blood out. To get married you must kill a yak. To get divorced you must kill a yak. It must be done with the marriage dagger
>Opt for common law marriage.
Is treated by the state (which is who matters legally) as a marriage that falls under their jurisdiction when you get sued by your ex-wife.
The state is involved regardless of how you look at it. Live with her (or even him) long enough, and you'll end up paying her alimony. Have a kid? That's child support. Common law? lmao free-earth sovereign citizen, you mean "weird marriage?" Don't worry, we got you covered. Default judgement.
^This is what happens in California and New York, and areas like them. Maybe you'll find a judge who'll get appealed on that might try your route. But if you live long enough with someone, you're "married."
>but for these cases an agreement should be signed beforehand.
And if she gets a job after signing that agreement? How are you going to make an operant marriage contract? Think about it, there's plenty easier ways of handling this, and you should leverage the systems we already have in place for mediation and arbitration before completely and totally rejecting them over a misconfiguration. Just suggesting.
Yes there is actually, actually: the story of King Candules of Lydia:
> According to Herodotus in The Histories, Candaules believed his wife to be the most beautiful woman on Earth. Herodotus does not name the queen but later artists and writers have called her Nyssia.
> Candaules often told his favourite bodyguard, Gyges, how beautiful the queen was and, thinking Gyges did not believe him, urged Gyges to contrive to see her naked. Gyges initially refused as he did not wish to dishonor the queen. Nevertheless, Candaules was insistent and Gyges had no option but to obey his king. So Gyges hid in Candaules' bedroom and, when the queen entered, watched her undress. As she was getting into bed, he quietly left the room, but the queen saw him and realised what had happened. Herodotus commented: "For with the Lydians, as with most barbarian (i.e., non-Greek) races, it is thought highly indecent even for a man to be seen naked".
> The queen silently swore revenge for her shame. Next day, she summoned Gyges to her chamber. Gyges thought it was a routine request, but she confronted him immediately and presented him with two choices. One was to kill Candaules and seize the throne with Nyssia as his wife. The second was to be executed immediately by her trusted servants. Gyges pleaded with her to relent but she would not. He decided to take the first course of action and assassinate the king. The plan was that he should hide in the royal bedroom as before but this time from the king. After Candaules fell asleep, Gyges crept forward and stabbed him to death.
This, if she refused to get married anyway but under the state, then she just wants to use you. If she is happy, excited and willing to have a spiritual marriage without the state, then she is the girl for you.
All that parable means is that cucks used to rightly get divinely punished for thinking they were a bro for violating their wives.
Public mediators. A new profession arises. Matters are settled based upon a mediator sorting through your personal garbage life and determing what's "fair" in terms of asset settlement. Should either party contest, lawyers get involved and long-drawn out lawsuits happen, potentially bankruping both sides, traumatizing kids and making the whole divorce idea painful and unattractive, kinda like Weinstein's dick.
my two cents is that before 6 the children should go to the mother and after 6 they should go to the provider or father if they both make the same money of course having the option to let their children go to the other instead. Any monetry compensation after the initial split should only be enough to cover half the child's expenses
Based OP. This is an actual quality thread
>How would divorce work
It wouldn't
this makes it 100% legit to sign one of those fuck you bitch your not taking my shit i work for it papers before you ever get married fuck.
It would work however the marriage contract you signed says it would work, which would be a major improvement.
Interesting, will check more in on CA and NY.
Its not sovereign shit, its actually a thing. If the state is not a party to your marriage, they cannot intervene in matters as far as execution. They can only mediate. Child support is tricky, but namely both parties has to consent and waive rights per SOC SEC laws. Alimony much the same. Now if your fucking retarded beta male and go along with this dumb shit..go ahead. I agree there probably better ways but YOU can create a marriage contract (with specifics about execution of dissolution) and have a common law marriage where the STATE is NOT a party or witness.
Gross butt.
It's pretty cut and dry in several American states. In Texas, for example, you just split any assets that you and your wife have gained during the course of the marriage 50/50, and call it a day. No alimony.
OMG, is that Mila Kuntzits? Man, I really had a thing for her back in the day. Put myself out there for her, but she married that Aston Butcher weirdo. Fuck. I'd still serenade her with my sad guitar....
>don't you remember you told me you loved me baby?
She hit the wall hard my man...real hard.