Normies all over are saying that the Coronavirus will spark a Universal Basic Income movement. Don’t get me wrong...

how do you I u even survive. I get 1200 from ssdi and that goes straight into savings honestly k don't even need it.

yolo it on some options

I quess so shut. I get like $4700 from My uncle Sam. us free health care and free education
plus I get an extra 700 from a renter

I don't know about UBI, but If the government's of the world can randomly decide nobody has a job anymore on a whim then they better have a plan in place to deal with that. otherwise the unemployed of the world will find a better government, forged in the medium of guns, guillotines and impromptu lamppost gallows.

The idea is that doing this corona-stimulus will break people from a "that's crazy/can't be done!" state of mind that is thought to be holding them back from accepting UBI as a realistic policy proposal.

>Is this commies using a tragedy for political gains again?
Well, in all fairness to the Yang Gang types, the theory is that you do a UBI *instead* of all of the welfare that is currently given out; and that, on balance, it might actually be cheaper to do that than to operate a big messy bureaucracy. Like, a major part of UBI is that you're supposed to fire most/all of the government busybodies who do nothing but decide how to pass out different kinds of gibs.

>The idea is that doing this corona-stimulus will break people from a "that's crazy/can't be done!" state of mind that is thought to be holding them back from accepting UBI as a realistic policy proposal.

But there isn’t any proof that UBI is even realistic. Is there?

> Well, in all fairness to the Yang Gang types, the theory is that you do a UBI *instead* of all of the welfare that is currently given out; and that, on balance, it might actually be cheaper to do that than to operate a big messy bureaucracy. Like, a major part of UBI is that you're supposed to fire most/all of the government busybodies who do nothing but decide how to pass out different kinds of gibs.

But why? Why give money to people who don’t need it?

If it doesn't constantly exist then the politicians won't raise a tax for it, but will instead print money which is a regressive tax. And we're due for a minimum wage increase. And there are such a wide variety of cases where it could be necessary anywhere in a country for things like hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes, or any other natural disaster than knocks out employment in an area. Also fuck bums begging for money.

There aren't enough jobs to go around, and driving large swaths of people into poverty, could cause mass civil unrest. Bribing common people to avoid a boog seems desperate, but the manufacturing base has been hollowed out from short term idiocy. Without real value creation, I don't see how an economy can function.

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>But there isn’t any proof that UBI is even realistic. Is there?
Fucked if I know, but I think the UBI-supporters are expecting this stimulus payout to break down a psychological barrier in people's minds about the idea.

>But why? Why give money to people who don’t need it?
Well, if it turns out it's cheaper to just give everybody a basic survivable income and tell them to figure it out than it is to pay a bunch of paper-shuffling busybodies to make decisions about who really "needs" what...then why not? Remember, UBI is a *replacement* for current welfare schemes; If it costs less in the end AND benefits more people than bottom-feeding government workers getting paychecks and the niggers and spics they make a living funneling money to...

>Universal Basic Income movement.
They tried this in Finland, it failed.

It wasnt real UBI

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People are seeing how many jobs are just useless circular jobs that only exist to support other jobs requirements and the whole thing can just be shut down and everyone gets along fine with out them.

This is what wakes them up to question what is the point of doing these jobs? They are not contributing anything. So if they are not contributing anything, why cant people just stop doing them?

This will create a problem for the current system, which uses excessive work to keep people tired and demoralized. In the same way rome put their legionaries to work building things just to keep them occupied, only in romes case at least the things built were mildly useful, things like bath houses and roads which, while at the time not going anywhere, laid down convenient places for towns to spring up along later. But a hair dresser? A restaurant that only serves people who are office workers when all that office work could be done from home?

The world is nicer when people just stay at home. Pollution down, the sky looks clearer, nature comes closer to the towns and cities, people are generally more at ease, spending time with their families and pets.

The mind control trance has been broken.
So what will happen when people are told to go back?

What i would like to happen is a full on change to the order of society, but the elite wont let that happen with out trying everything they can to stop it. One thing they can try is UBI, just pay people to be content to continue sitting at home. This is not a long term sustainable thing, but it is possible something like this is in the future at some stage or another as the whole system slowly spirals towards collapse.

They tried it in a single city, It needs to span the entire economy else you just get a weird 'pressure difference' when it comes to money and the system doesn't work.

>free money
No such thing, it has to come from somewhere.
>I can understand that receiving a weekly cheque can re spark the economy
It has to come FROM the economy, and while it can be argued that it helps increase the velocity of money in a slow economy, under regular circumstances it's a parasitic drain on profit and (business) growth.
>Why would we keep UBI forever?
The idea is that it would replace all other benefits. If you believe that, you're fucking stupid. It would only last a single election cycle before the next champagne socialist would win on a ticket of promising more "free" shit on top, and then you'd be right back at square one with even more welfare to parasites.
>Is this commies using a tragedy for political gains again?
Is water wet? Do bears shit in the woods?
Make no mistake, UBI is nothing but re-branded wealth redistribution; taking money from some and giving it to others, but this time without any pretence or means testing. Commies are such duplicitous bastards that they will try to bring in communism through the back door.

the world economy, really.

America is a complete lost cause. So I am all for it, just to see if something crazy happens.

>the theory is that you do a UBI *instead* of all of the welfare that is currently given out;
Hahahahahahaha! Buy my snake oil bitch.

>But why? Why give money to people who don’t need it?
The idea is that you avoid administrative costs. The reality is that you create a new parasite class. People who ask if we should give money to people depending on whether they need it, never seem to ask if we need those people instead.

>what is the point of doing these jobs?
What's the point of keeping those people?

>Free money is great
A fucking leaf. Have you heard about the price of bread in Venezuela?

They have bread in Venezuela?

I know user. This is a ticking time bomb but no one really cares. The mass quarantine was a mistake.

>I’ll still shit on niggers all day even though I act like one.
Dumb leech.

Why don’t we just back to barter and remove money altogether then?

Yeah, perhaps in the primary export of a country or the basis for the countries printed currency. HR 763.