Well christcucks?

Well christcucks?

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Christianity wasn’t a thing when this guy existed, retard

Monotheists, in particular kikes, were. What's your point? In the modern world, the most common strain of monotheism is Christianity, by a factor of more than 2.

Ok? This still applies to Christians.

>He thinks that the flawed and selfish creator deity and the Supreme Consciousness Deity is the same thing

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if we could understand God with human mind, would God really be God?
My view is free will will always lead to some evil. God gave us free will, why we may never know.

>does God want to prevent evil?
>”no”
>THEN HES A BIG MEAN DOODIE HEAD AND I HATE HIM REEEEEEE

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But the bible laid out some pretty clear descriptions of God. Are you saying that the Bible doesn't understand God either?

Extremely based.

Yes, the Bible is clear that God is not omniscient nor is he omnibenevolent, which sort of short-circuits the argument in the OP

Well, Epicurus, what do you think about the Bible?

"Ahhhhhh!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!! I'm burning!!!!!!"

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This doesn't make sense. Why would a perfect being create imperfection in the first place? For being that is "perfect" to do something that is "imperfect" means that that "perfect" being isn't perfect at all.

Also, The box that says "problem without a solution" implies that the "perfect" being created a problem. Which would be impossible if it's perfect.

>Yes, the Bible is clear that God is not omniscient nor is he omnibenevolent, which sort of short-circuits the argument in the OP

Nigger, go read the Bible. allaboutgod.com/god-is-omniscient-faq.htm

Consciusness was born as a mechanism to override instincts in situations that instincts did not understand and were therefore incapable of solving.
For example an opposing tribe chief telling you that he'll let you live if you put your hand in fire. You need consciousness for that.

With time it evolved to have more and more resources in the brain and now it's really big compared to how it used to be.

There's your free will.

>christcucks retreats into muh evil does not exist
This is why it is pointless to argue philosophy with Christians. They have absolutely no problem lying, subverting and moving the goalposts to win any argument. This is of course because they are not interested in truth, only converts.

Pilpul is the way of the Christian. Every argument against Christianity is just another chance for them to practice this craft.

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How would one know what good was without evil?
Could you define "light" without implicitly defining "darkness" in the same stroke?

You're fedorable. GB2 PHYLO101, faggot.

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>sweden

>t.

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>t. christcuck

>ad hominem

If god is omniscient, why did he have to test Abraham? Why did he claim that “NOW” he knew he wouldn’t withhold his son if he already knew that?

Why did god need to send angels to investigate sodden and gamorah?

Why did God need to see Adam and Eve in shame to deduce they ate of the fruit of knowledge?

Plenty more examples exist.

Are you calling God a liar, or deceitful?

What you believe?

What if he wanted to give us free will. Sure he could have taken it away but why would he?
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>Are you calling God a liar, or deceitful?
No

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory

>HURR CAN GOD CREATE A SPHERICAL CUBE? NO? GUESS HE'S NOT ALL POWERFUL THEN, CHECKMATE CHRISTIANS!

>beaner

QED, he isn’t omniscient.
Omniscience would not work with free will, he sacrificed his omniscience for us.

Fake quote, it has been debunked a million times, newfag.

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Not a Christian, but there is nothing wrong with allowing evil. Imagine how boring the world would be if there was no struggle, no war, no pain, no death. From these things which we call bad, we learn to appreciate the good. Put it simply, no pain, no gain. As for the afterlife, I believe good people are rewarded in it (somehow), which pretty much accounts for all the pain they’ve suffered. They’ll rejoin loved ones, meet their old friends and family etc. Again, the evil they felt in this life will help them appreciate the good in the next.
As for omnipotence, it depends on how you define it. God can’t bend logic, and make 2+2=5 or something like that. He can break the laws of physics, sure, but the laws of physics are not based off of logic. They are random. There is nothing illogical about going faster than the speed of light, it’s just impossible in this universe, but god can still do it. On the other hand, 2+2 MUST equal 4 in all universes, so god can’t do that.
In the same way, god can’t make it so that we appreciate good without knowing bad. Just like there can’t be up without down, or left without right (these are logical rules, which god can’t break), there can’t be good without evil.

Evil doesn't exist by itself. What exists is the absence of goodness.

>Could god have created a universe with free-will but without evil
Then it wouldn't be fucking free will you magnanimous moron, and don't come with muh "rock so heavy he can't lift", the omnipotency paradox is idiotic because it asks something that contradicts itself.

>This entire chart is an atheist having an argument in his head, as written in Microsoft paint
They're called thought exercises, if it forbidden in christianity to exercise their minds or employ intellect and reasoning? holy shit

Oh and by the way "true evil" doesn't really exist. Satan isn't this all powerful rival of god, he's just a pathetic corruptor trying to bring others to his level, and he's pretty much lost. Point is, you're not going to hell unless you choose to be bad enough to have to be sent to hell.

>Why doesn't a supreme deity match up with my limited conception of good and evil and perfection
Imagine being enough of a braindead retard to think that this is a convincing point.

Why I worship the old gods ofc and so should you brown man.

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God is what most people call "Universe" and It is in a constant state of change due to It's fractal nature and death-rebirth cycle forever, and the fact, that It always was and always will be (just in different states) is a proof in itself, that It is above and beyond all, because human logic dictates, that everything at least must have the beginning, so if something didn't "begin", yet it always was and is, then it has a quality of what people assume only God would have. God is the Universe itself and everything in it, that includes you too, the air we all breath in is also part of God, the soil on which we all walk is part of God too - put it all together, all that exists and you have the One, God - the source of everything. Universe/God/Nature - whatever you want to call it - it's one and the same thing. Everything is alive, everything is pure consciousness - physical "reality" is just our perception and consciousness is the most basic "building block" from which everything else is created. Creator and Creation is not separate and THE ULTIMATE POINT OF IT ALL is to gather all the pieces together and become One again. The Universe is like an egg. What physicists call the "Big Bang" is the shattering of an egg, so all the contents spill (death of the Universe). The expansion of the Universe is the process of spilling contents of the egg, then the Universe will begin to shrink back (kind of like a gestation process) to It's original form of One, where all the contents of the egg are inside it and the Universe is in one extremely small and extremely dense "point". When that happens, then due to It's extreme density, internal "pressure" will cause It to explode again and It's going to "die" again (Big Bang / shattering of an egg), rebirth again and die again and rebirth again and so on for infinity.

For more information, read about the Trinity in a reply to this post.

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How can good/evil exist without the other?

God is neither good nor evil. God is perfectly balanced. God is the Universe itself and everything in It and Universe has duality nature, which after fusion of two extreme opposites creates the "Holy Trinity". The real, original and intended meaning of the Trinity is two extreme opposites and the fusion of them. Neither is better than the other one and each of them posses qualities that the other one doesn't and it is the fusion of both of them that gives us the best outcome. It is the balance between two extreme opposites that at the end of the day always wins. Neither right nor left is better than the other, neither obese nor anorectic is better than the other, neither hot nor cold is better than the other etc. Trinity is one of the the Universal Truths, that can be applied to absolutely everything and the ancient as well as modern intellectual elite has been encoding this fact for thousands of years in many things, especially buildings. It is the BALANCE between two extreme opposites that's the best. This is the Universal Truth and is the true, original and now occultistic meaning of the Trinity, now hidden behind the veil of allegories in order to ensure, that only select few can know and fully understand it, because not everybody deserves to posses that kind of knowledge due to a tremendous amount of power it can potentially give to a right person.

See for example Gothic cathedrals or the famous painting known as "The Last Supper" and you will see the hidden symbolism of the Trinity/Triptych encoding the knowledge about the nature of God/Universe.

Look at the background of The Last Supper:
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For more information about God, read here:

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>omnipotent God and free will are contradictory concepts.
It's almost like the whole thing logically flawed and false.

Or, it's almost like you're a retarded contrarian.
>omnipotent god and free will are contradictory
BEHOLD, THE AMERICAN READING COMPREHENSION

well brainlet
imagine you are playing a game. lets say counter strike. when you get shot, you get angry its bad.
would the game be better if noone could die?
no. it would be pointless
do you understand now you shoe size IQ brainlet?

no man, a thought exercise is used to develop an understanding, or come to a conclusion.
Rationalizing an idea from straw-manning the opponents ideas in hopes to make your argument infallible is not the same.
At the end of the day THIS exact image is heavy flawed .
Multiply assumptions that "disprove" God are just tack ons
Even IF he is not all powerful, all knowing, and good he is still the creator.
EVEN IF he knows all, why would he NOT test us? That is like asking why do people fidget. Because they can.

Purple pilled af

He will destroy Satan at the end of times, it's literally in the Bible. Evil is there because we choose it and God respects our free will. Satan only has power because humans choose to follow him.

The fact that you have a concept of good and evil proves a moral absolute. Which has to be God otherwise there is no good or evil just things you dont and do like

>God is all powerful

Take the Zoroastrian pill

>failing to engage the point, and immediately reverting to ad hominim

the fedora's final form
humans are imperfect reflections of a perfect being
in order for humans to be perfect, they would all have to be god

Based.

If god is all powerful, why can't he make a 3 sided square? Checkmate Christians

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I agree with everything except for the math thing. 2+2=4 because those are just names we give our conception of events. There are '2' sticks here and '2' there. When together we call this '4'. Math could easily be different in a seperate universe with different laws and criteria. Math is accurate because it's just observable phenomena given a name. But we still observe it, making it fallible, since we ourselves are fallible