A vaccine is impossible for the coronavirus. It's already mutating. The best case scenario is it doesn't become any more lethal but stays as it is, with minor changes. We end up catching it every year, it's the new cold, and every single year our testicles shrivel up more and our lung capacity gets less until we're husks too weak to even fuck, then humanity will be wiped out.
it'll get weaker. problem i see are the hiv inserts
Eli Ward
>A vaccine is impossible Don't worry, it's perfectly possibly, you'll just need the new model every month (your ID2020 chip will ensure that you keep up-to-date by sending medical professionals to your house if you miss your monthly appointment).
Bentley Morales
>every single year our testicles shrivel up more and our lung capacity gets less until we're husks too weak to even fuck That's called aging, yes.
Justin Myers
OK thanks for your expert opinion doctor. Better pack it up guys, OP says a vaccine is impossible.
Tyler Cox
My theory is that this virus spreads around destroying everybody's immune system to the point a mild flu starts killing large amounts of people
What people don't seem to realize is that we're in the early stages. Shit will be brutal in 2-3 years.
Leo Stewart
Well if that's the case we may as well go back to work so we can pay our mortgage and die with some dignity rather than sitting in our cuck sheds waiting for it to blow over
Asher Young
The plague killed about 50% of the European population over the decades in the 14'th century. It came in wave after wave. But ultimately it lost its lethality and the people that survived gained immunity. And with the reduced population it was a boom for the working man. He could truly negotiate his wages and conditions now. It was the end of serfdom and the enlightenment followed.
Ryan Sanchez
thats a good thing
Carter King
That's AIDs, bro Speaking of aids, wtf is up with captcha?.
Connor Cruz
this. better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
Ethan Lee
A vaccine would only be impossible if the virus was able to circumvent long term immunocyte function, even then short term function could still be used to provide temporary protection.
Andrew Reyes
This but it's just the flu anyway
John Gray
none of them want to hear that, even here. They all just want to go back to their wage cages, and consoom, just get back their wonderful normal lives. even anons here. I've never been so demoralized by anything in my life, than seeing the reaction to all this. the nothingburgers were right. but not because this is actually nothing, they're right because you can never get anyone to acknowledge the elephant in the room, so the reality is that it's not there. the elephant could have just sat on 10 people and killed them, but it wasn't the elephant. everything is fine. We just want our work schedules, cold ones with the boys, and more talmudvision movies.
Cool thought. Gonna be great when I'm 120 and can finally tell my boss the fuck off
Landon Brown
> (OP) >A vaccine would only be impossible if the virus was able to circumvent long term immunocyte function, even then short term function could still be used to provide temporary protection.
antibody dependent enhancement and it's why COVID seems to have two phases
COVID attacks your body by entering cells with the ACEII gene. This is present in the lungs, all organs, your small intestines, and even your veins and arteries. This is phase 1 and typically your body handles this like a mild flu.
After two weeks or so your body produces antibodies. Normally this would wipe out the virus. But COVID uses the antibodies that bind to it and your cells to enter more cells. It turns immunity against you and starts reproducing like crazy.
This trait is present in all the horrying viruses like HIV, EBOLA, MERS, SARS, and now covid. It's why we can't develop a vaccine. Because all a vaccine does is get your body to develop antibodies without having to suffer through the disease. We actually developed a vaccine for SARS a few years ago but all the mice we tested it on died because as soon as they got reinfected with SARS the virus spread like a wildfire through its body with the antibodies meant to protect them.
The horrifying conclusion is that this means this could be a virus you can't develop an immunity to. >"Why hasn't this been a problem before?" You might be asking. Normally the viruses don't spread this easily. HIV and EBOLA needed sex or sharing needles or you acting like a nigger and dancing and kissing the corpses of the infected dead.
SARS was so horrifying because it spread easier. We got lucky and stopped it early and essentially eradicated it smallpox style.
It's too late for that with COVID. This could be a virus that threatens the human race itself
>We end up catching it every year, it's the new cold,
That was what the whole point of the lockdown and social distancing was intended to avoid, so that we don't end up with another virus turning up year on year, at the same time as the flu and with a similar death toll.
>(your ID2020 chip will ensure that you keep up-to-date by sending medical professionals to your house if you miss your monthly appointment).
lol
the OP fag will take it gladly too.
Justin Anderson
preprints.org/manuscript/202002.0407/v3/download When the virus binds to ACE2 receptors, it mimics the normal function of Ang II, which ACE2 receptors are supposed to down-regulate. This leaves excess circulating Ang II in the tissues, which creates a whole lot of fucking inflammation, enough to basically destroy a lung. The autoimmune reactions are huge. Your own inflammatory response does more to attack the tissues than the virus does. With ADE, normally, like in Dengue, you have to get two different strains for the second one to fuck you, because the incomplete antibody response due to the faulty memory B cell antigen experience means that the virions are carted off to the Fc receptors where they start to infect your immune system, and then the Dengue fucks you to death. If SARS-CoV-2 can do this with the same strain and the same infection, that's really, really, incredibly fucked, because it means immunity is difficult or even impossible to develop. I've heard that they've cured some people with serum antibodies, so it's possible that at least some people have good antibody responses. I've also heard of people relapsing with the disease, which is not encouraging at all. I've been trying to tell people for fucking weeks, this thing can have serious neurological consequences. SARS-CoV-2 can attack the medulla of the brain stem and the blood vessels of the brain. It can cause viral encephalitis and make people to collapse to the ground with abnormal posturing like drowning victims. When they tested SARS-CoV on hACE2 transgenic mice with human ACE2 receptors in their cells, they found it could enter the olfactory bulb and pass through the cribriform plate, just like naegleria fowleri amoeba, and from there, it could enter the brain and brain stem. Lights out.
It can enter the olfactory bulb in lab mice. It doesn't even have to cross the BBB:
the issue is that the immunity isn't happening. people they're testing after the fact for antibodies are showing few to none. Your 'immunity' is measured in weeks. So you just... catch it again. and again. and again. and again. and once the more deadly strains come back up out of south America, it's going to go from just being a small problem to black plague style dead removal, with no end in sight.
Angel Perez
What’s it like living like a doomer? Is it hard? Do you even know what a social life is?
You made this thread at least once yesterday. You're obviously trying to spread fear and hysteria.
Oliver Gutierrez
86% of people who test positive never show symptoms. I'd bet my left nut 86% of people who test negative dont show symptoms either. How accurate are these tests? Guys, the chances of a bacteria mutating to survive in a new species is very small, but the chances of a virus mutating across species is ZERO. It has never happened, never will happen, and probably never could happen. The only way humans can get a virus or flu from another species is if it is injected into them, period. And the chances of it going across species multiple times? It can not happen, ever. Dogs, cats, sheep, pigs, and others have tested positive for this COVID-19. It's fucking impossible. All signs point to the testing being a false positive. It's just like the HIV hoax. West Nile Virus, SARS, AIDS, and Hepatitis C are all invented by the CDC. The testing is even similar to HIV, which is fake. The statistics make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Watch this documentary House of Numbers on how the CDC and world governments invented the AIDS epidemic out of nowhere: youtu.be/BsT4GrimfLQ [Remove] Do NOT get tested. Do NOT take any drugs they give you. And for the love of jesus christ up above in heaven DO NOT GET VACCINATED. Thousands of people died to the h1n1 vaccine. The spanish flu was created by vaccinations. All viruses are symbiotic with humans in that they detoxify the body of toxic cells to prevent aging, especially in the respiratory system. They have been evolving with us for billions of years. They are manufactured within the cells. They are not foreign invaders that hijack your cell's reproductive process. It is a symbiotic process. They are as much a part of us as the rest of our immune system. ANY deadly virus is either man-made from vaccines (like the Spanish flu of 1918) or made up
Liam Ross
>not understanding division helps elites conquer Wowee why am I not surprised
Bentley Myers
You think that lockdown is preferable?
If we're all doomed, we might as well go out having a good time.
Julian Watson
Viruses, especially new and unknown viruses, have a history of being around for years if not decades. So yeah just wait
Jack Brooks
The disease doesn't go away, it's like herpes. If it doesn't kill you during an outbreak it might next time. It's probably 100% fatal once caught.
Brody Brooks
What is the argument for continuing lockdown if we failed?
Nolan Rogers
>the issue is that the immunity isn't happening. people they're testing after the fact for antibodies are showing few to none. Your 'immunity' is measured in weeks. So you just... catch it again. and again. and again. and again. and once the more deadly strains come back up out of south America, it's going to go from just being a small problem to black plague style dead removal, with no end in sight
The problem isn't that you don't get immunity; strictly speaking your body does form antibodies to it; that's the problem. The reinfection means your antibodies for it show up on the scene of the infection and then the virus latches onto the antibodies and rides them into all the other locales in your body with ACE2 receptors; your testicles, your lungs your arteries, your heart, your meninges around your brains. Heart failure, meningitise, sterility with lesions on your testicles.
Yea and now we are up to our ears in degeneracy. The enlightenment blows.
David Harris
>it's like herpes
And like herpes it stays put, it hides out in your nerve tissues and then when you're run down, under extreme stress, it comes back, like herpes or shingles or zona as the French call it.