What's Russia's money situation?

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Getting murdered by saudi arabia, on top of lack of work due to corona.

Gov talking about taking peoples money from banks and giving them "gov bonds", which will be absolutely worthless the minute you get it. So a repeat of the 90s where money becomes worthless. Lotsa murder and ways to get rich quick if you're ruthless pretty much.

Over leveraged with a declining GDP.

shit

Was Crimea really worth it? I mean yeah for defensive purposes it is but the sanctions.. what was Putin thinking

Eh sanctions haven't really had that much impact work wise. Lack of work/industry has always been a problem due to retarded laws/bribery, and is still literally the problem.

Ex: you know how everyone makes money with patreon and shit?

If you become self employed you literally cant use paypal/patreon/payoneer/whatever.

Why? Because business paypal accounts cant receive money from other business paypal accounts. Literally every other fucking country in the world doesn't do this, but shitty russia does.

Oh but you can receive paypal money from users and non bussiness account, but you also need to buy an onlain-kassa and service to use it and a fucking gov tax chip, which adds up to like 1 grand a year anyway on top of paying taxes.

Oligarchs plundering it

it is funny how these things never come up in Russian media. It is always
>hehe look Putin so cool hehe

Do ordinary Russians buy that crap?

Vodka as currency when

Real question is how Venezuela money situation.


Like how much do they pay for bred?

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Large majority do. You have to understand, most russians are so fucking poor and uneducated, (85%+ dont speak english), and only like 15-20% even have a zagran passport (travel passport). Most have never been outside their home city, yet alone the country.

When you make 10-15k rub a month (like 200 dollars or less) anywhere thats not moscow/spb there really isnt much you can do to lift yourself up, especially when all you see around you is trash/garbage and so you just learn to live with it and think shit u see in movies is just made up.

>$200 a month
How is Russia so fucking poor?
Thats barely above Africa tier

here average is 700 dollars a month. I am making around 1200 dollars but everything here is so cheap that it is kind of worth more

Because russia was true communist. And that meant NO ONE owned shit.

So until this shit fell apart in the 90s, literally you lived/worked/ate where you were told, and that was it. You literally owned nothing of value.

So then the 90s happened/fall of communism, and oh oh what now. Anyone who was like, higher communist party leader suddenly owned factories and shit. Everyone else owned NOTHING. If you were assigned an apartment, then you were lucky and that was now your only thing of value (even if u were in a shitty hrushevka). But the 90s hit russia hard, and since no one had money, murder/theft/bribery skyrocketed.

Many people sold their apartments or wahtever else just to feed their kids for what little the ex commie part leaders gave them (or bandits took from you), and that where oligarcs rose.

So you have millions of people who lived their life being told where to shit/live/etc like a slave, and all of a sudden have freedom. None of them knew what to fucking do, and most still dont.

Same reason why there are no suburbs/roads/infasctcture here that people are surprised at, it's because due to lack of private ownership those things never developed.

So now its why salaries here outside of two cities (moscow/spb) are so astronomically low, cause there is literally nothing out there in most of russia.

Kremlin already saved its oligarchs from mass bankruptcy on multiple occasions, there is always money for that. Not too different from US, where WH/Fed saves Wall Street, again and again...

>what was Putin thinking
Just keep in mind that Putin is not a nationalist, hates slavs(both russkies and hohols), sucks jew dick, and suddenly all his actions are starting to make sense.

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>>Gov talking about taking peoples money from banks and giving them "gov bonds",

Source ? Or are you just a navshill

Here you go pedik.
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The sanctions actually helped shield Russia's economy, in retrospect they were worth the initial pain.

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Poor ruskies.. Who is this Putin guy? What is his end game and where is he going to spend his retirement days?

If i'm not mistaken he got robbed big time when he tried to move his money out of the country. don't know by who though.

For me it seems he robbed his own country but then got robbed himself when trying to hide his money. Now he's just stuck with poor people in poor country. Sad.

well our goverment is full of corrupted rusophobic faggots who care only about themselves will probably leave when Russia's milked dry. How do you think?

Russians deserve to suffer.

Based and über redpilled Putin, the saviour of the European race.

I'm moving to Finland bruh once this quarantine is up. Going to school there and then staying with a work contract. Really like Finland :D

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So are you being retarded on purpose or what? All he is saying is to direct banks to buy government bonds, this has nothing to do with yours or any other PERSON'S money.

And he is right, all banks in all countries do this. I always wondered why they don't just get state controlled banks to buy government bonds on the cheap, and have the central banks buy it from the commercial banks.

This is literally what every country is doing right now.

You are a fucking retard and don't understand economics.

Given the history of shit here and devaluing ruble to where its nothing i don't believe for a second this wont be exploited. Otherwise why have you fucked off to UK yourself cyka?

This flag in Australia not UK retard.

A currency doesn't get devalued because banks buy government bonds, that's how all - read ALL governments fund budget deficits.

It's fucking late for me here, i need to sleep already. Our currency gets devalued when our gov will "borrow" said money with bonds that they will devalue to be 1/100th of its initial value making them worthless long term. Furthermore the war on oil with saudi arabia, were getting FUCKED. Ruble is tied directly to oil, and now with corona here what little industry there was is also frozen. So yeah, we are in for a butt fucking.

How does it make you feel to see all of these edgy, contrarian 12 year old American retards on here blindly cheering for le based slavman because he "is mean to (owned by) the jooz?"

It's the same for many other countries, most people dont know shit especially if you are lucky enough to be born in a non literal third world shithole.

I am anxious to move out of this stupid country.

russia has ridiculously low sovereign and corporate debt. do you even know what financial leveraging is you fucking retard
its easy to hate russia while living in it. when you move to finland and realize the culture and people are completely different, everything is prohibitively expensive, and you're nothing but a gasterbaiter in a foreign land, you will change your mind. Enjoy

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I've been in finland many times, i'm well aware of the costs. At least in finland i'll be able to work properly in both irl/online without the retardation of russias laws that are 30 years behind in terms of digital.

Furthermore the suburbs/infrastructure/shit that doesn't look like a bombed out 1940 is so pleasant to the eye. If i have to pay heavy taxes then so be it, i'd rather give it to them than give it to the literal mafia oligarcs here.

>sad SPCA abused animals music plays
Russia obviously can't feed their former United Soviet Semitic Republic citizens that are holocaust survivors so the west must gib monies to them

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Every country is in the same position with borrowing money, do you realise this?

Australia relies on LNG exports (tied to price of oil)
All of middle east relies on cruide oil prices

Russia has a lot more manufactures and agriculture exports.

Not saying things aren't bad, but they are not that bad, and every country is in the same position with these things.

Most western countries haven't seen a budget surplus or even close in many years.

In Australia our debt to GDP is about to go from 20% to 80% in less than ONE year.

Do you get the point ?

The countries you mention have working/real governments. We LITERALLY live in a fucking oligarch MAFIA state. What part of that confuses you?

If that weren't the case i'd be more trusting giving my money to gov/bonds.

What fucking manufacturing/agriculture exports?

We have sanctions on exports as well as imports on food.

Our GDP is SO LOW. Name companies, please.

they have enough

the supreme problem in one economy are always THE PEOPLE

Which is why it should be 100% centralized, under AI control

visiting and living are two separate things. But hey man russia is a free country, you are free to leave. Im just telling you in advance that you will probably regret it. I and my family do. Maybe you should watch alex brezhnev and golos evropy and see the real life of russian expats and what awaits you.

Not that bad actually, aside from the currency dive. Their economy is shielded from the economic effects of the virus on global markets due to becoming self-sufficient because of sanctions. They still have massive gold reserves as well.

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>What's Russia's money situation?
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