So what is this whole “class consciousness” thing? Shouldn’t I just be looking out for me?
So what is this whole “class consciousness” thing? Shouldn’t I just be looking out for me?
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Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.
>So what is this whole “class consciousness” thing? Shouldn’t I just be looking out for me?
Look at pic related to see what happens when you only look out for yourself, and let others do the same.
Hint: You are immediately replaced and have no one to defend you.
If that’s class consciousness how is it different from racial or national identitarianism? It’s not binding people across class lines, just by nation of birth
>So what is this whole “class consciousness” thing?
It was the Beta release of Identity Politics 1.0
Collectivism is more powerful than any individualism. That's why the last 50 years of conservatism have been controlled opposition centered around Ayn Rand memes
Think about the difference between a worker and someone's who is making money with money.
Realizing you’re a cuck and worship bbc
Think also of the difference between home owners and renters.
Class consciousness is just a Marxist term to describe the specific type of inferiority complex they try to inculcate in people to get them to go along with their nonsense ideology. It is impossible to support the terrible things communists want to do unless you have feelings of inferiority so intense that not only can you not imagine yourself succeeding in competition against others, but you become livid with rage at the thought of other people succeeding.
It is interesting to think about the fact the government put a freeze on mortgages, but not rent
>inferiority complex
Non sense. It's materialistic. It's about those who own properties and those who rent. It's about the difference between wagies and investors.
>words words words
How did you manage to say so much and still avoid defining the term. You just said how the term made you feel
America is a classless country.
>America is a classless country.
Is it? We don’t have dukes or kings, but how would you describe the differences in wealth, careers, social circles, and opportunity for advancement we see in America without using the word class?
Gone is the time when the judge and the banker was sharing the same 4 of July meal as the cashier and the janitor.
Read this article by Charles Murray
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>For most of our nation's history, whatever the inequality in wealth between the richest and poorest citizens, we maintained a cultural equality known nowhere else in the world—for whites, anyway. "The more opulent citizens take great care not to stand aloof from the people," wrote Alexis de Tocqueville, the great chronicler of American democracy, in the 1830s. "On the contrary, they constantly keep on easy terms with the lower classes: They listen to them, they speak to them every day."
>Americans love to see themselves this way. But there's a problem: It's not true anymore, and it has been progressively less true since the 1960s.
There's a new upper class
>They run the country, meaning that they are responsible for the films and television shows you watch, the news you see and read, the fortunes of the nation's corporations and financial institutions, and the jurisprudence, legislation and regulations produced by government. They are the new upper class
>the people of Belmont—not just socially but spatially as well. The members of this elite have increasingly sorted themselves into hyper-wealthy and hyper-elite ZIP Codes that I call the SuperZIPs.
>Georgetown, the rest of Northwest D.C., Chevy Chase, Bethesda, Potomac or McLean, comprising 13 adjacent ZIP Codes in all.
>Increasingly, the people who run the country were born into that world. Unlike the typical member of the elite in 1960, they have never known anything but the new upper-class culture
Commie bullshit to obfuscate real issues like parasitism, sociopathy and institutionalized crime.
If you only look out for yourself, you allow yourself to ignore threats. For example, if the government took away my neighbor's guns, and I were only looking out for mine, I'd be ignoring how since the government took his away, they can take mine away. If I only look out for my paycheck, and my coworker's salary gets cut for essentially no reason, I am ignoring that our boss could easily do the same to me.
An injury to one is an injury to all in that it threatens all, and to look out for all, you look out for yourself. By strengthening our communities, we protect ourselves and our neighbors against crime. The same goes for unionizing--if everyone is protected by the group, you too are protected, as you are included in the group.
>Commie bullshit to obfuscate real issues
But what does the term mean, and why is it commie bullshit? I don’t like propaganda, but I could certainly tell you it’s definition (information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.) Why can’t you talk about the term objectively?
Useless, intersectionalism killed it. Social class defeats economic class.
>if everyone is protected by the group, you too are protected, as you are included in the group.
That sounds okay, but who gets to be in the group? And what does this have to do with class consciousness?
1 roll per day? You might want to see a doctor if you're going that much.
Identity politics and class consciousness are very much opposed. Class consciousness groups people by economic status and supports the idea that those in the lower classes are the most oppressed, while identity politics reaches across economic class barriers, allowing someone who has never truly been in danger to claim oppression on the basis of their sexuality, race, etc.
Basically, the concept of class consciousness actually focuses on improving people's material lives, while those with identity politics in mind just want megacorporations to sell them more gay movies.
>Social class defeats economic class.
What would be the difference between the two? Who is someone that has high social class but low economic class or vice versa?
>who gets to be in the group?
Material wealth
See
It's just a reskin of politically separating people based on categories. They just changed the categories, dumbass.
>Social class vs economic class
They're converging in same zip codes.
See
As far as political theory is concerned, "the group" is usually the working class. Class consciousness is realizing that you are in this working class, and if you help to improve the living conditions of the working class (higher wages, shorter hours, etc), you are also helping yourself. Even if you are not in the working class, advocating for these things can benefit you because better living and working conditions can help lower crime.
Well then that sounds like a terrible idea. The guy I was responding to made this whole class consciousness thing sound pretty okay, but you’re telling me it’s defined by how much money you have? That doesn’t really make a lot of sense
>The average person uses 1 roll per day
you're infinitely stupid
>a terrible idea
It's not a virtual idea, it's a concrete fact. Nigger.
>the nation's power elite does in fact live in a world that is far more culturally rarefied and isolated than the world of the power elite in 1960.
That kind of makes sense I guess. It’s like realizing we’re all economically tied together, so helping one sector is effectively the same as helping yourself. Sounds like a pretty good way of looking at things.
But you still didn’t answer the question of who is someone of high economic class but low social class or vice versa. The distinction doesn’t make sense. Can you give an example of a person like this?
>you still didn’t answer the question of who is someone of high economic class but low social class or vice versa.
I did. See Those are among the upper class. The rest isn't
>The distinction doesn’t make sense
Agreed, I said so here
>1 roll per day
Mong, it's a fucking copypasta.