Are you willing to pay $9k for an iPhone?
Are you willing to pay a lot more money for products for manufacturing to be moved out of China? If you grew up in the 1980s, you'd know how expensive computers and electronics were back then. They weren't replaceable like they are now.
Yes, hello? BUILT department?
it's the West to design the chips anyway
production can always be moved to India or Brazil
>Are you willing to pay $9k for an iPhone?
Nope. Not even willing to pay $1 for an iPhone.
BUT WHAT ABOUT COFFEE? IS IT GOOD FOR YOU?
Yes. I don't give a fuck if iPhone is 1000000 dollars. If people can't afford to be glued to a fucking phone that's probably a good thing anyway.
Yes.
for most things yes
Yeah they didn't need to be replaceable, shit from the 80's still works today.
>Are you willing to pay $9k for an iPhone?
what kind of retard buys an iphone at all?
Except it wouldn't cost nearly that much.
At worst it would cost two or three times more to manufacture, which isn't much considering a phone that's sold for $1500 costs $100 to manufacture in China. So shareholders will get a tiny bit less money, in exchange for bringing back hundreds of millions of jobs? Big deal.
fuck off you chicom shill
Yes. Why is this even a question you consumerist tard?
no I won't give my own money away
it's the govt's jobs to set tariffs or whatever
is coffee good for you?
my phone was $28. I've had it for 26 years.
>shareholders will get a tiny bit less money
which is why it will never happen
Good luck moving production here.
COFFEE
>willing to pay 9K for an iPhone
an iPhone won't pay 9K because Apple will find a way to automate the process to make it cheaper.
You have a nigger-tier understanding of economics and you are an insult to humans.
Also: is coffee good for you, the thread.
Women
Only full automation can solve the problem.
Peoples main expense is rent, not random gadgets. People don't spend most their money on products.
Moving manufacturing jobs back to the USA coupled with tariffs on imported goods, this may raise the price of some products, but it would result in Americans have higher wages.
Higher wages means being able to better afford rent, and rent is what most people spend most their money on.
If a working class person gets duped into supporting their job being sent overseas because they are told the stuff at walmart will be less expensive, then they would deserve what they get.
And what they would get is a lot of them would have to work very very hard just to afford rent. So that's the choice:
Cheap stuff at walmart in exchange for lower wages and having to work harder to pay for rent, or stuff at walmart costing a few dollars more, but having higher wages and not having to work has hard to afford rent.
BASIC
>won't pay
holy fuck my english is nigger tier. time to go to bed lmao.
Our countries would also be a lot wealthier and able to buy higher priced things.
Also, manufacturing is a lot more streamlined, efficient and mass produced now so they wouldn't be that much more expensive.
Yes.
And if the government are smart, they would regulate the prices until the cost is driven down by infrastructure and economy of scale, you know, like exactly what China does.
PRICE REGULATION IS ESSENTIAL for start-up manufacturing, forget that free market bullshit.
My first pc cost $2000 total and I used it for 12 years. All the electronics I bought or my parents bought in the 70s and 80s lasted.
OH NO, MORE EXPENSIVE LUXURY PRODUCTS?! WHATEVER WILL THE PROLETARIAT DO?!???!
Fucking retards.
Manufacturing just isn’t the same as it used to be. In the 80s and 90s if you wanted to make an electronic you had your own in house production floors and machine shops and circuit design. Now only apple and Samsung can own all their factories and assemblies. Sanmina and companies like them have become a one stop shop so companies just need 1 or 2 design guys compared to the 300+ workers before.
Oh it very well could happen, if there was a leader with balls who would apply a 1000% tarrif on every product that's not manufactured locally.
Companies would have no choice, either they close shop and lose everything, or keep doing their business, albeit earning a bit less money, by manufacturing locally.
Of course that requires everyone in the political class to not be left wing, pro-globalization and under heavy chinese influence. And that's why it will never happen.
Who buys an iPhone? Haha.
Manufacturers in the US would unionize, you stupid niggers. Just like what happened to the auto industry. Unreliable pieces of shit while the workers do the bare minimum and kill time until the pension kicks in.
iPhones haven't meaningfully improved since 2015.
I neither care nor want a better camera.
I do not want facial recognition.
I do want an auxiliary jack so I can listen to high fidelity audio and charge my phone at the same time.
I do want the fingerprint scanner.
Apple price gouges. Plain and simple.
>BUT WHAT ABOUT COFFEE? IS IT GOOD FOR YOU?
A coffee enema would be good for you, a piping hot one, 3 or 4 quarts.
This is bullshit. We had most of the manufacturing in the us up until the 2000s and shit like electronics was still easily affordable by the masses.
VCRs
Walkmans
Computers
Pagers
TVs
Lights
Microwaves
Radios.
Calculators
Anyone could afford one. The real question is if we outsourced all the labor and we could pay a guy in rice to manufacture this shit, why didn't the price drop in the first place?
>Are you willing to pay much more money for products made localy?
im actually willing to pay the same if they are made in india and not china
The components were made in Chinese, you dumb nigger. They've been made in China since the 1980s, which is why electronics were so cheap.
>Now only apple and Samsung can own all their factories and assemblies. Sanmina and companies like them have become a one stop shop so companies just need 1 or 2 design guys compared to the 300+ workers before.
Because the state allows it to happen.
Yeah, just like China am I right?
The government needs to be more stomp in and kick ass, even Lenin broke down strikes.
Production is a necessity for any state.
No, that's not fucking true, retard niggers.
Some advanced components are still made in the USA, Germany, Japan and are shipped to China for assembling.
The 1980s time were actually Japan golden era for manufacturing.
In the 80's everything was made in Japan, it was the China of back then, you fucking faggot.
Not everything.
Japan were having competing brands but goods were still made in their respective countries.
It's only the 00s where everything is suddenly made in China bullshit, and all governments just let it happen.
What kind of faggot would buy and iphone??
I would make more money for a qt JAV gf
This argument is retarded. I’m an adult so I own a home. I wanted new kitchen appliances and I bought whirlpool because I wanted quality that was made in the USA. Did I spend thousands more than a Samsung or ge (which is chinese now and has nothing to do with the real ge)? No I paid the same because that’s how markets work.
No they weren't you double nigger. O concede electrical components had been made in Asia long before the 2000s but not in fucking china, maybe Japan or Malaysia.
THis, the problem is while high tech, current tech is made to be quickly replaced. We need things that last.
No, electrical components, high-tech ones, were only made in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, poor ass countries cannot make them because they require specific infrastructure.
In fact, why the USA fails to keep the prices low is that USA seriously believes in the free market meme and refuses to invest in better factories and infrastructure, it's like a kid trying to be fair with fucking China.
FUCK OFF FAGGOT