By all accounts it seems so rewarding
Why aren’t more millennials having kids?
We're poor
im not giving any american woman state enforced powers to extort me for child support. never having kids
Met a good white Christian girl, married her, took her virginity, and she will be giving me a second son in about 2 months. Millenials typically want to complain and wallow in self pity instead of overcoming the challenges.
If money is the issue, why are millennials so poor? It’s not a bad point, because if we just make laws and policies that encourage them to have children when they can’t afford them you’ll just get two generations of poverty. Why are millennials so poor, and how do we fix that if promoting families is the goal?
Mate. My wife and I are in the military and even as the welfare queens we are we even can’t afford to have kids. It’s impossible. Even with living below our means, working an extra job while active duty, we cannot afford any kids.
I "cheated" by marrying a gen x-er. Otherwise it's really kind of impossible.
>Millenials typically want to complain and wallow in self pity instead of overcoming the challenges.
If so many millions of millennials obviously aren’t able to “overcome the challenges” what would you suggest to remedy the situation?
Embrace a third position that actually focuses on the family/middle class rather than the poor and rich
i dont like the idea having such a nuisance in my house
That is the obvious solution but how does an average millennial execute that? Stop placing the blame on "entitled millennials" and instead get mad at your politicians and the boomer fucks who vote only for themselves and not the future of the nation.
>Embrace a third position
That’s neo nazism, right? As far as I understand it it’s the welfare state but only for certain citizens mixed with authoritarian federal government, correct?
>poor
so are all of the niggers and spics and various other assorted shitskins I am constantly surrounded by with all three of their children in tow
the poorest white guy I know has 4 children, some of his jobs have been:
-gas station cashier
-3rd shift cashier at a porno shop
-convenience store cashier
-3rd shift supermarket baker
all you goys do is make excuses
Everyone in this thread are lying faggots. When they say I can't afford a kid they mean "I won't lower my personal material quality of life a bit in order to finance a child". They are selfish and materialistic. Every other fucking excuse is cope.
>the poorest white guy I know has 4 children, some of his jobs have been:
>-gas station cashier
>-3rd shift cashier at a porno shop
>-convenience store cashier
>-3rd shift supermarket baker
Is this the path forward? None of those sound like jobs that could support a family of 6, even when done together in tandem. It just sounds like you’re suggesting millennials should just have kids despite economic circumstances, and struggle to raise them in poverty
>why are millennials so poor
Millions of jobs have been outsourced to third world shitholes with a non-existent cost of living, even more immigrants are funneled into the country each year to drive down the cost of labor to the behest of major corporations, the existence of Amazon which has all but eliminated brick & mortar businesses and healthy communities along with them, boomers who refuse to retire and clog up the job market, SE tax used exclusively to cover costs for said boomers to the detriment of anyone who is self employed, an out-of-control housing market fueled by unlimited foreign/domestic "investors" and technology in general. In summary: very few jobs that pay [reasonably] well, absurd tax rates and unrealistic cost of living.
Millennials are addicted to consumerism, they'd rather have new toys and camsluts then a child. Simple fucking as
Millennial men aren't having sex, aren't buying homes
That generation is beyond fucked
GO HAVE KIDS FUCKING LOSERS
ENOUGH WITH THE COPE
You have a distorted view of what quality of life is necessary to raise a child.
everyone here, get lots white babies
>so are all of the niggers and spics and various other assorted shitskins I am constantly surrounded by with all three of their children in tow
They are welcome to mindlessly sentence their children to wageslavery, good for them I guess?
>the poorest white guy I know has 4 children
Sounds like white trash to me. I wouldn't consider starting a family until I was able to adequately support them and ensure a better future for my children.
I don't want kids
>My son has to have a struggleless perfect life or it isn't worth being alive
Your cope is so hard it's deleting our race you fucking faggot.
>Bring a child into a life of poverty just so I can have a kid
You're selfish and materialistic
Frankly I couldn't give two fucks about the race at this point.
Why do you think I said embrace a third position? Our current political system is rotten and the boomers are primarily to blame. I can only speak from personal experience, but my wife and I have good jobs, we don’t live beyond our means, and we save our money.
>Neo-Nazi
Not necessarily, just because that is a bit of a loaded term. Every neo-Nazi I have come across is just a degenerate larper. A third position such as patriarchal socialism or paleoconservatism (Pat Buchanan). A lot of the problems we have are primarily due to immigration. PaleoCons want to stop immigration and focus inward rather than outward for reliance.
Daycare is $15,000 a year.
A shit generation shouldn't breed.
Do you think there’s any realistic chance of manufacturing jobs coming back to the United States? Entire industries that used to support whole regions like mining or steel have either replaced their workforce with machines, or are just deemed to expensive to do domestically. If these jobs aren’t coming back, I’m not sure what the solution is
The anti-child propaganda has been very heavy over the last 20 years. It really ramped up after 2000 or so. Stark contrast to those of us old enough to remember the 80s and 90s.
And it's so much bullshit. "We're poor", says the first reply. Bull shit. The cleaning lady at my office has 3 kids. My bartender friend has 2 kids. The propaganda says you need to be rich to have kids or else it's not worth it except that's obviously not true.
My question is, who spreads this bullshit and why? I know Yas Forums would name the Jew, which makes no goddamn sense at all. I'm thinking it's China. CCP has the motive and the means to want to see the western world in decline. They started this bullshit narrative. It's them pushing it. In this thread. Right now. Today.
It’s the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done, user. I have been depressed most of my life, but these past five years I haven’t been depressed even a little bit. They gave me a reason to live. Having a family is literally the meaning of life.
>Do you think there’s any realistic chance of manufacturing jobs coming back to the United States?
I think that even if they do there will be more immigrants who are willing to do them for pennies on the dollar. The solution is to tax the investment properties to death, cut off ALL immigration and forbid companies based in the US to have employees overseas. If they want to take advantage of the low wages they can fuck off and go live amongst them.
These idiots don't get it brother!
People who grow up poor have character! Economic status does not equal a happy life! Why do you think so many middle class teenagers are on fucking anti depressants and are addicted to drugs?
Because these faggot ass parents think that all they need to do is provide financial security for their kids to be happy.
NOPE. STOP COPING
HAVE KIDS, AND PARENT THEM WILL
FUCKING MILLENNIAL MORONS
And the funny thing is those immigrants will work for pennies on the dollar....
.....and have 4 kids.
All while the woke liberals are crying that they can't afford children of their own. It's just an excuse. They bought the propaganda and having kids scares them because that was the goal of the propaganda.
>will work for pennies on the dollar....
>.....and have 4 kids
Good for them, hopefully one is in charge of your nursing home so you can really reap what you've sown.
It's all hedonism, user.
These faggots would rather pleasure themselves instead of helping society prosper
Dumb cunts
>A lot of the problems we have are primarily due to immigration.
I think that’s missing the forest for the trees. The lack of good paying jobs in America has more to do with the exportation of jobs overseas than it does with immigrants coming and taking existing ones. Also, what would make a system like that more beneficial than the traditional welfare state like we’ve seen practiced successfully in the Nordic countries?
How much money do you suppose it costs to feed, shelter, and educate a family of six? And you’re suggesting people should attempt this on the wages earned from working 3rd shift at a porno store? This just sounds like a recipe for disaster, bankruptcy, or both
When deciding to have children of our own I pointed out that my husband's family was literally homeless when he was 3 years old my parents were immigrants on welfare and section 8. it was no excuse since our current position was far better than our parents and our parents managed to raise us fine. And when our children are grown they will be in a better position than we were.
>stop spending all your paycheck to consoome new jewish product
>stop ordering take out trash, smoking, drinking and otherwise wasting your time and money
>oh wow, I actually have a lot of money
I got my first somewhat stable job last year after graduating in fucking 2010.
My dates still ask me
>"You're 35? Why haven't you met someone yet?"
>Because I'm not a lazy nigger looking to settle down with no income?
>Wow...well okay!
Needless to say, when my only pickings are the dumbasses who were too dumb for the rich to marry, I'm not interested in the slightest.
>Work for the sole purpose of bearing children who will ultimately do the same
Yeah, no.
That's the best part. They probably will be in charge and they'll probably do a great job.
That is a big part of the propaganda campaign, yes. Self pleasure over all.
>your life has no meaning unless you consooooooome and indulge in hedonism
Found a braindead manchild
That's your right, I'm just trying to inspire people hesitating because they had shitty parents they think parenting is alot more difficult and time intensive than it really is.
Good to see all the video gamers coming out in full force at the mention of children, protesting for their right to play console uninterrupted for 12 hours a day.
>outsourcing jobs
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. The problem is that we aren’t holding the massive corporations accountable that do this. As far as the Nordic countries are concerned, they seem to be capitalistic economies with larger social programs. We could adopt that but the problem is that whites are (statistically speaking) net contributors to the “welfare state” whereas non-whites are the biggest consumers of these programs. So I don’t think it would be realistic to do the Nordic model in the US because whites do not have a super majority (we are like 56% or less).
Poverty in America is still an objective high quality of life. If you raised them with passion and attention there's no reason to think their life wouldn't still be good.
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The dating pool really dries up by 30. The highest value females are snatched up from 16-24. Theres still some hope 25-30, but by then usually the females come with 1-2 kids and a whole lot of emotional baggage. 30+ it's all roasties who realize they are approaching the wall at terminal velocity.
See that’s interesting, this entire conversation has been focused on economics as the main factor for millennials not having children, and here you are saying that you did everything a lot of the people in the thread are suggesting. You focused on working, you weren’t lazy, and you got a stable job with steady income. And what do you have to show for it? You’re unmarried at 35, and by your own admission, not really thrilled about the prospects. I’m curious. If money was never a factor- if you didn’t have to sacrifice years of your life to secure a financial future for yourself, would you have rather have had a family earlier? Or maybe you’re just one of those people that just likes their career and doesn’t care about stuff like that, I don’t know
Female empowerment.
Women delaying childbirth while they are at school or in the workforce until they are at the literal wall of their fertility window.
Right on the money
>have cellphone that you don’t use to make money
>have a laptop that you don’t use to make money
>finance a car that cost half the cost of a mortgage
>work like a slave but work your best for someone else’s pocketbook not yourself
>rent like an idiot, fill the house you don’t own with shit you don’t t need
>go on vacations you didn’t earn or can’t afford
>don't have enough time yet play vidya, watch tv series or go out to establishments constantly
>complain about food prices, wont garden/farm
>lives in the city like a good goy
List of things my deadbeat friends tell me why they can’t have kids. People are just self absorbed in a civilization that enforces a constant dopamine hit. Kids require sacrifice, most faggots today only care about themselves
My fog really really likes me too. And wont cost me a fortune and have me living with some fucking thot
this
Who the fuck are you kidding, mate. You’ve spent your life goofing off like a dumb nigger. Now 35-yo and only JUST got a job after graduating 10 fucking years ago. And you think you are better than the women you date? What grand delusions. You’re a man roastie.