It's OFFICIALLY NOTHING BURGER
"The COVID-19–associated hospitalization rate...week period ending March 28, 2020, was 4.6 per 100,000 population"
That's .0046% of those testing positive needing hospitalization.
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm
OPEN THE GATES
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>Among 178 (12%) adult patients....89.3% had one or more underlying condition
NOTHING, time to REOPEN
>muh 20%
Happeners BTFO
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CDC shows CORONA IS NOTHING.
Thank you, I was worried this was going to get completely buried.
It's bad, if you're 80 years old.
they were setting up a hospital in my area with 1000 beds and a couple days ago announced it'd only be 250. The coronahoax is unraveling
Well shit, anyone wanna explain this chart, did the word "Among" get misused in the report?
Trump did a hell of a job responding to something that seems to be not nearly as bad as China and Italy let on.
Even in Connecticut it effected .015% of the population so badly they needed hospitalization.
That's 15 for every 100,000
For comparison,
>At the end of 2016, the overall prevalence of people with diagnosed HIV in the US was 308.3 per 100,000
Yeah, don't like people being dead, but holy shit, we've not even shut down the gay bars (should).
Michibro?
Bump, this should be Page One of Every Paper in the US. We're SAVED.
Can confirm it’s a big nothing.
Island of 100,000 and 3 people in their 80s who were already dying in hospice passed bc of it. Otherwise hospital is empty. I’ve had it and recovered fully in a little over a week, like 9 days max. Wasn’t even that bad I had worse chest infections when I was a young smoker.
Unless there is some massive uptick in young people needing hospitalization in the last two weeks, it's time to get back to living. It's spring, and I want to cruise for high-school cheerleaders.
BUMP, CDC APPEARS TO CONFIRM NOTHING FROM CORONA.
How long ago was that? Any reinfections, or long term symptoms?
If they allowed us to wear respirators outside we'd be allowed to function.
Or obese. Or eat shitty food and have heart disease. Or you smoke/work in a shitty, dusty environment.
Do you not know what an average is?
>Trump did a hell of a job responding to something that seems to be not nearly as bad as China and Italy let on.
The death toll could easily have only been in the thousands if we had reacted swiftly and smartly.
So bottom line
>above age 50*
>and/or with pre-existing conditions and poor immune systems
When and how should we have?
They did the same shit here. When we had our first confirm death. They spent the day hyping the news, and then the detail came. A 80 years old sick lady died in a hospice.
Oh my God!
>Do you not know what an average is?
What I'm not clear on, is if they had 100,000 cases and 4.6 needed hospitalization, or if they had 100,000 general population, and 4.6 out of every 100,000 have needed hospitalization. Can you decipher that since you're smarter than me?
> death toll could easily have only been in the thousands if we had reacted swiftly and smartly.
So what would you have done? For what is apparently only hitting old people, we should have shut down the economy sooner and more completely?
February. Contact tracing. That alone would have slammed the breaks on the virus.
We were contact tracing in February. That's what the CDC does for a living.
>What I'm not clear on, is if they had 100,000 cases and 4.6 needed hospitalization, or if they had 100,000 general population, and 4.6 out of every 100,000 have needed hospitalization. Can you decipher that since you're smarter than me?
It's the latter. It's just a convenient way of writing the statistic. 0.46 out of 10,000 or 46 out of 1,000,000 look messy.
>So what would you have done? For what is apparently only hitting old people, we should have shut down the economy sooner and more completely?
The economy didn't even need to shut down to this extent. Contact tracing, more widely available testing even a few weeks earlier than we did, etc. would have given us a much more clear picture of the situation.
Bump.
Do you have evidence for that or are you just saying that's what they do so therefore they were probably already doing it?
Rare
So the words in the first image
>hospitalization among patients identified...
don't actually mean the whole 100,000 is identified, because that's how I read the word "among."
>Trump did a hell of a job responding to something that seems to be not nearly as bad as China and Italy let on.
Sanitation in the US is on another level compared to Europe and China.
We're also way less crowded.
We're also not European or Chinese, both of which are determined to see the world burn if we don't succumb to this years temper tantrum.
ttps://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#history
Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.
They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall),
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>Whenever a person is found to have a serious communicable disease, be it tuberculosis, measles or novel coronavirus, local public health departments are charged with curtailing potential spread from person to person by quickly identifying who they came into contact with.
All of those points seem to be true as well, but my general point is that this is a disease that effects old fags, smokers, and the near-to-be-departed who have been granted huge decades of life beyond what any generations in history have seen.
I want old people, they're learned, and sometimes wise, but dude, we have lives to live down here on the early edge. All of history we've buried our parents at some point, it's human life.
BUMP, You can live again, crisis averted.
That's because you can't just read what you find in the image, you have to actually read the whole thing.
>Among 1,482 patients hospitalized with COVID-19, 74.5% were aged ≥50 years, and 54.4% were male. The hospitalization rate among patients identified through COVID-NET during this 4-week period was 4.6 per 100,000 population.
Is what you're stuck on. Look later in the report.
>Among the 1,482 laboratory-confirmed COVID-19–associated hospitalizations reported through COVID-NET
That tells us that COVID-NET (which is explained elsewhere in the report to be COVID hospital reporting system for gathering data) only had that many cases. Therefore, out of the us population of 300 million or whatever, 1,482 confirmed cases, so 1,482/300,000,000 should give you a number that is the same as 4.6/100,000.
So why did it work so well in South Korea but not here? Also the rest of that news article says the CDC only does military bases, that county health officials do their local areas.
How retarded do you have to be to incessantly bitch about social distancing in the US and then say it was all pointless when we were able to curb a pandemic? I suppose you believe China was inflating their numbers too? Retards.
Wait, but your second point clarifies those 1482 are only lab confirmed hospitalizations, it doesn't really clarify against the whole population.
But I think I get your point on the division against the whole population of the US. The problem is that this is only from a certain number of counties, that 1482 is not the total number hospitalized, only the number in the counties running the study for the CDC. I can assume they chose a targeted random set of counties, but I still don't have answers from the 1482 alone.
Said another way, there were more than 1482 hospitalizations, most likely, but those 1482 are counted in this study of
>COVID-NET conducts population-based surveillance for laboratory-confirmed COVID-19–associated hospitalizations among persons of all ages in 99 counties in 14 states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Tennessee, and Utah), distributed across all 10 U.S Department of Health and Human Services regions.§ The catchment area represents approximately 10% of the U.S. population.
Can someone post the chart with all the yearly deaths in comparasion to the coronaflu?
Maybe it worked well in both areas, but because the disease isn't hurting anyone except old people, nobody is testing themselves.
>I suppose you believe China was inflating
Not necessarily. The asian population may have a much higher mortality rate based on a lack of history of exposure, or on diet/environment, or on what is considered best practices or combinations.
What it does look like, assuming that the infection is not doing long-term tissue damage (and I admit there is some possibility this is a hiding virus, like a herpes), is that the American population in general is able to fight this so that it doesn't effect the general population in any significant numbers. There may need to be guidelines for those who have asian ancestry to keep wearing masks and stay socially distant. There probably will need to be social distancing for those over 75.
Otherwise, from these numbers, and with nothing else obvious, I'd personally say it's beyond time to return to living.
Do you disagree?
Amercian's can't stop thinking about burgers. The rates are low because most of the world is shut down you
Hot dog, I love a good cookout, I'd kill Trudeau's wife and eat that heifer if I could have a cookout with the extended family this weekend.