Tell me about him. Why exactly did he hate HW so much (even before the 92 election)?
Ive read that he paid for alot of different people to go to vietnam and try to find missing POWs that had gotten left behind, did they turn up stuff relating to CIA operations there that made him hate HW or was it for different reasons
Also was his claims regarding the GOP going after him real? Why did they fear him if true?
> Independent presidential candidate Ross Perot accused President Bush’s campaign Sunday of plotting to fake a photograph to smear his youngest daughter, of conspiring to disrupt her wedding and of hiring an ex-CIA employee to wiretap his computerized stock trading program and ruin him.
>Perot said the plotting was the real reason he dropped out of the campaign for 11 weeks. He said he wanted to spare his daughter, Caroline, the pain that such dirty tricks could cause. After her wedding in August, Perot said, he told her what he had done. He said she replied: “Get back into the race.” He did, on Oct. 1.
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Bump the bushes deserve to hang
Big part of his platform was NAFTA was a pos that was going to suck jobs away to Mexico
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Even after election he fought against it
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Also worth noting he was leading in the polls before dropping out (and then reentering later) clearly there was something up
Guess others don't find it interesting.
If what he said was true it was the definition of election rigging
Bush was a CIA agitprop from the COINTELPRO days. His legacy is that he helped Reagan beat Jimmy Carter by orchestrating the Iran Hostage crisis to make Jimmy Carter look incompetent. When Carter was our last honest President.
Perot looked at the political land scape and saw what was about to go down. Bad trade deals, evaporating American jobs, depressed wages. All a slap in the face to the Korean War veteran.
I wish Perot had won. Because America would be a vastly different country.
>I wish Perot had won. Because America would be a vastly different country.
Ive watched some of his speeches, news clips, etc from 92, even read some of one of his books. It does seem he genuinely cared about the way the country was going
If they really did pull the election bs he said (wouldn't surprise me if they did) its a shame. I wonder what we'd look like had he won.
They were clearly worried about him
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Perot was kind of a populist. The American elites at the end of the cold war saw him as an annoyance; they were gearing up to loot the USSR and its satellite states. So, they destroyed him. One interesting thing about Perot - most people assumed that he was some kind of oil billionaire.
He was actually a tech guy; his company Electronic Data Systems built early database and data-management systems for businesses and government agencies in the 50's and 60's.
How much of our democracy is actually real and how much is smoke and mirrors does my vote actually count?
Your video shows how stupid the argument is that Trump is in the same position that Bush was in 1992. Trump has the full support and confidence of his party, Bush didn't have close to full support
>He was actually a tech guy; his company Electronic Data Systems built early database and data-management systems for businesses and government agencies in the 50's and 60's.
A tech guy that wasn't a pos? Weird.
I honestly don't know. Youd think if they tried to black mail perot into dropping out and he was leading in the polls, people's votes mattered (at least then) on some level
>Bush was a CIA agitprop from the COINTELPRO days. His legacy is that he helped Reagan beat Jimmy Carter by orchestrating the Iran Hostage crisis to make Jimmy Carter look incompetent. When Carter was our last honest President.
That's utter bullshit on several levels but otherwise I can agree, would would have preferred Perot
Him winning would have truly had a transformative effect on US politics and we might not have the bullshit we have today
I can't say everything would be better but at least it could be different
Tech people weren't onions-slurping faggots until recently. The onions-slurping faggots simply built off of technology that was pioneered by men like Ross Perot decades ago
OSS Society.
Best case scenario would be if Perot won and was able to shut down the neocon policies of Bush while being restrained on gun control, which was his biggest issue
Yeah HW was seen as a weak NE elitist (he had a home in texas but was from New England) by many republicans. Its why he had to fight off Pat Buchanan
The "wimp factor" as was put on him in 88 was very real
Bush was a faggot CIAnigger
everybody hated him not because of the recession but because he lied about not raising taxes and his immigration base felt betrayed when the Immigration Act of 1990 passed causing some of his base to vote for Pat Buchanan in the 92 primaries
Bush also pushed free trade and Perot knew this was a bad because it would offshore American jobs.
Perot knew Bush's policies were bad for America. i always love that debate Perot did against Gore where he practically took a shit on Al.
Bush threaten the life of Perot's daughter with his glownigger goons which caused Perot to drop out temporary which fucked his campaign up. it sucked because Perot was leading both Clinton and Bush in the polls up to that point
Theonly thing they fear more than sharing power
Is sharing power 3 ways.
Interesting, hadn't heard this one, he wanted electronic direct democracy
>It is Ross Perot's promotion of the electronic plebiscite as a tool of government that really rings alarm bells for the establishment pundits. They may have forgotten more than they ever knew, but mother's warnings about strange men peddling referendums still echo in their minds. Listen, for example, to Anthony Lewis, a columnist for the New York Times:
>"The 'electronic town hall' is Mr. Perot's idea. Every so often he would put on a television program about an issue: how to deal with the budget deficit, say. His people, congressmen and others would argue different views. Then the public would vote -- by push-button telephone or postcard. . . ."
>"Direct democracy. But who will make sure the people understand the issue? The opportunities for manipulation are overwhelming. Few of the issues that confront governments are so simple that they can be decided by pushing a telephone button or checking a postcard. In fact, that kind of direct democracy is usually a device to transfer real power to a maximum leader."
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No wonder they freaked out.
America may have reflected the America of old still had he won.
The more I read about his policies and about his pre political life the more I wish I'd been around to vote for him then.
No, your vote does not count.
The choices are made before hand, and our say really means nothing.
It's like when your mom would ask if you wanted hotdogs or pizza for lunch.
She never asked just what you wanted for lunch. She made the choice, either hotdogs or pizza. Either was literally her choice
Better to go to Mexico than to China where they went anyway
Im guessing had he become president we wouldn't have allowed that, at least for a bit
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Grand Daddy Bush was a wallstreet banker turned Senator who also supported Margaret Sanger just like the Clintons.
>Margaret Sanger
For those who don't know the name
>Margaret Higgins Sanger (born Margaret Louise Higgins, September 14, 1879 – September 6, 1966, also known as Margaret Sanger Slee) was an American birth control activist, sex educator, writer, and nurse. Sanger popularized the term "birth control", opened the first birth control clinic in the United States, and established organizations that evolved into the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
Bushes truly are pos
one more I suppose
>Perot later helped finance controversial efforts in the 1970s and ’80s to find and rescue U.S. prisoners of war he believed were being held captive in Vietnam years after the war had ended there. Despite widespread speculation, none ultimately were found and a Senate investigation found “no compelling evidence” that any existed.
>He also won fame for financing a rescue operation of workers for his company Electronic Data Systems who had been taken captive in Iran on the eve of the 1979 revolution.
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He was right though
I know he was, I think that is why they feared him
Tbqh... as a Democrat that always had a distaste for republicans, being a poor mutt, the Republic everyday people called bullshit on their own politicians while Democrats don't seem able to have the same intellectual honesty.
Trump 2020
Hindsight kicks you in the ass son
In hindsight yeah he was right but it shoulda been obvious companies would move elsewhere to pay lower wages. We got sold a pack of lies, not the first time though
Good mind, would have prevented a lot of job loss early on, but he "spoke funny." That was ultimately what was used to destroy him.