How would Yas Forums describe national identity and would Yas Forums agree or disagree that national identity supersedes racial and or ethnic identity when it comes to nation forming and the driving force of nations in general?
National Identity
Josiah Powell
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Jason Perry
We have had a hundred years of putting aside racial and cultural identity and things have steadily gone to shit everywhere. Theres no place people want to even go anymore and no nations actual problems get addressed because tptb are determined to square a circle even if it kills us all.
There used to be hope.
Ethan Bell
>would Yas Forums agree or disagree that national identity supersedes racial and or ethnic identity when it comes to nation forming and the driving force of nations in general?
Disagree, because a unified racial/ethnic identity is essential in forming a strong nation
Michael Garcia
You could argue that it was brought about due to involuntary racial segregation from former slave owners instituting Americas first gun legislation is what led to the current downfall of America. Simply putting race or ethnicity above all else without any factors being considered just magically fixes problems seems a bit ridiculous. Why wouldn't cultural norms and identity brought about through shared experience such as wars, harsh living conditions and natural or human caused disasters and tradition be viewed as a much more important aspect compared to race?
Isaac Wright
>Why wouldn't cultural norms and identity brought about through shared experience such as wars, harsh living conditions and natural or human caused disasters and tradition be viewed as a much more important aspect compared to race?
Why would it? We are either fundamentally different or we arent. If we arent different then the last 100 years of bullshit should have paid off. It hasnt and it wont. Its the same as it was 8000 or 800000 years ago except "the other" never goes away.
Owen Ramirez
Well one needs to only look at Yugoslavia to understand that by simply grouping race and ethnicities together as one doesn't actually alleviate problems, but in may cases, compounds the problems. Civic nationalists like to say that all you need is a shared "culture", as in, you speak the same language and you have Christmas and that's it. I would agree, that it takes a hell of a lot more than that to unify peoples into one people. But to say that race is the dominant force in the world and everything must be dictated by it seems rather outlandish. Just look at the history of North America as a great example. Do you really think British, French, Germans, Spaniards and Portuguese would've all viewed themselves as the same "race"? As the same "Ethnicity"? Absolutely not, and they would've scoffed at anyone who would've postulated that. But it was through shared experiences and common interests and enemies that eventually unified the American colonies and dispensed away with their European identities, and in their place, a new one. The American race.
Easton Ortiz
Culture serves religion, religion serves identity, identity serves ethnicity
Jeremiah Sanchez
Everything is DNA and racial soul, that is a nations true cohesion.
Jack Cooper
National identity is constructed by whoever controls the media and educational system. All identities on a scale larger than that created by daily human interaction must be constructed and maintained by some form of institutional power. Your ruling elite decide what your identity is, you have no say in the matter. If you try to organize an unauthorized identity movement you will be targeted for suppression by your ruling class.
Nolan Richardson
Culture can mean many different things. Religion can mean many different things and can be interpreted in many different ways, and identity can be an extremely subjective experience, not objective. Along with that, to say that religion is the only driving force or power dynamic in a society is just wrong. Their are many competing forms of power that wish to be the sole power and driving force of a given society.