Wagecucks from western europe working hard paying taxes, while we easterners are here only for the gibs

Yes and they seem to be using this money to protect Europe from mudslimes

I'm not sure you understand what GDP means.
Certainly we don't pay them directly, but pay into the EU budget, which is then divided between member countries.
This doesn't change the fact 12B€ isn't a lot of money when measured against the overall German economy.
These expenses are far outweighted by the overall gain we (and every other EU member) get from the EU single market.

Not so sure about Greece but we can't help the fact they need to get their finances in order
>for the first time in living memory

How competitive you think the german mark would be without the euro?
Im not even counting EU's regulations to curtail competition directly.

Poles boast about their supposed "outsmarting" Germany through economic means as a member of European Union, since Poland receives the most amount of money out of all members. That's how it might look like at first glance, however the truth is different:

"The structural funds are for making weak regions more competitive. And a large part of every euro the EU gives Poland comes back to Germany. The Poles use the money to place orders with the German construction industry, to buy German machines and German trucks. So net contributors such as Germany should be interested in the structural funds. From an economic perspective, Germany isn’t a net contributor but a net recipient." - Günther Oettinger, EU Commissioner for Budget and Human Resources: global.handelsblatt.com/politics/oettinger-germany-may-have-to-pay-more-to-e-u-714934

Poland gets money from EU and then spends it plus even more of their own money on products and services offered by German companies, therefore Poland is being drained by Germany out of money, while making it look at first glance as if Poland was doing that to Germany. That's smart. Germany has a slave that doesn't even realize it - not only that - they think they outsmarted Germany.

The net winner in EU is Germany - auswaertiges-amt.de/en/newsroom/news/170322-bm-faz/288672
bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318

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It's hard to say desu.
Reunification was a pain in the ass.
I think overall we didn't gain or lose much from this whole EU/€ deal, but we profit by proxy helping our buddy countries improve.

Please stop being criminals, though.
The thing dragging the EU down is places like Italy and Greece outright lying about their budget and debt to circumvent EU rules.

This is how the United States is divided up if you do it by race.

Amazing to see Germans do mental gymnastics in this thread in order to cope for how their government castrates themselves. Even granting that EU membership is a net economic benefit for Germany, there's no reason for Germans to pay a disproportionate amount more. Also enjoy paying for balkniggers and taking EU-mandated refugees.

We certainly aren't the sole beneficiary, but it's obvious we're getting something out of it.
Can hardly expect anybody to stay in this union if the overall effect is not a net positive for that country in one way or other.
The ways (and amounts) countries profit certainly are not equal across the board, but I think it's at least a little good for everybody, as long as they don't undermine the system on purpose
>and then blame Germany for it

Post flag then

Someone in the EU asked how much money it would take to make Poland into a decent country and we are still waiting for the answer.

Per capita Luxembourg gets the most of gibs.

The EU is doomed to fail anyway. Therefore: the sooner the better.

Right.
On the other hand you're very wise giving $3.5B to Israel for nothing in return.
You guys are much closer to getting castrated by the government with the whole foreskin thing.

We really need some rules for punishing countries getting out of line.
This will never turn into the Fourth Reich without that.

>On the other hand you're very wise giving $3.5B to Israel for nothing in return.
They do a shit ton of military research using that aid

Finally one sane comment.

Poles who are excited about polish economy are just easy to impress. You build a glass tower for them and they will suck you off for the rest of the time. Poles have a peasant mentality. Polish economy was penetrated by Western corporations, Poles don't have their own material wealth, they just get salaries from the West which they spend on Western produced stuff, they get in debt in Western banks to go on holidays, to buy a Western car etc.

The catch here is that Western economy is a debt economy, so Poles get their salaries from Western debt, while the West uses this money to buy wealth. When shit hits the fan, the West remains with material wealth while poolacks with useless paper money.

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I shouldn't complain about that anyway considering it was you guys who ultimately helped Germany get back on track after WW2.
It's an oft-overlooked fact.

It's not like you had much of a choice after the whole Soviet Union thing.
The time will come we'll put many of these politicians up against the wall once again.
It's not like Germany was an instigator in any of this however. We were a late-joiner to the EU as well, with plenty of legacy WW2 problems.

Doesn't seem too bad to me, exporting goods has never been easier, this is only a tiny sum of money.

Fuck off, OP.
I'd rather pay for the based polish people and other eastern europeans than muzzies and fudgees.
Also: It's not like i pay for wellfare sponging people there, but for a majority working class population that just needs some capital for investment in their infrastructure.
Would be nice if less of the money would seep away in corruption there, though.

If anything you'd have to say it's justified Germany pays more into it than others because we're heavily involved in export trade, so the single market works in our favor first of all.
This whole system would long have crumbled if it was exclusively one-sided.

>It's not like you had much of a choice after the whole Soviet Union thing.
I agree, I don't have hopes for capitalistic societies anyway, so I'm just chillin as an individual. Capitalistic societies consist of degenerate bugmen and whores. Yuk.

The amount of cope.

Aren't you the guys in need of coping?
We don't really have anything to cope with, Greece2.0-kun.

take the UK off of that graph right fucking now u CUNTS

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