Here is a discussion involving bo winegard, a race realist/white nationalist who just recently got fired from his professor job due to outcry from students that he was a nazi. Anyway, in said discussion Bo tries to deny that he's engaging in dehumanizing blacks with his views. And for whatever reason, I see a lot of white nationalist like Jared Taylor or pol's hero Ryan faulk take this same stance.
Can someone explain how this is possible? How can one claim blacks are genetically dumb, violent, and have lower levels of empathy and say with a straight face they're not saying blacks are morally inferior to whites? I would even go as far as saying these views are implicitly justifying violence or constraints on the autonomy of blacks as morally justified. I mean, how is it not?
You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human. Therefore why would things like slavery or segregation even be considering wrong from a race realist perspective. Yet whenever someone calls you guys out on this by pointing to the logical conclusions of your own views, like Bo winegard in the image, you pretend to play stupid? Why do you do this? Do you think we can't see what you're doing? I literally don't get why you guys behave so dishonest like this.
Because intelligence doesn't necessarily imply anything about morality. They are plenty of saintly retards and brilliant sociopaths
Bentley Davis
Aren’t morals relative tho? Unlike IQ
Mason Lopez
Also, niggers are violent in addition to being low IQ, but this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with morality; it's just their nature
Gabriel Stewart
Intelligence compounded with violence and empathy do imply morality, I mean, how could it not.
Camden Brooks
Jews have roughly the same IQ as whites but are a vile, criminal race. Niggers generally have bad morality too but that's not necessarily because of low intelligence.
Kevin Baker
You see, this is what I mean. You guys want to dehumanize blacks but don't want to take on the moral baggage of that position. Its totally dishonest.
Isaiah Stewart
low quality OP from a low quality mind
Christopher Harris
source: >i mean how could it not.
Kayden Rodriguez
christ you just proved his point
Kayden Morgan
blacks and other races also have less genetic empathy stupid and evil
Leo Ross
Oh, well, I'm perfectly ready to categorize blacks as a different species of hominid who don't experience morality like whites do. I'll lose my job if I say that though. The person you're taking a picture of probably has / had good intentions in trying to be "realistic, but not bigoted", but at the end of the day the evidence points inevitably toward the conclusion that blacks are fundamentally different in ways that can't be overcome by "changing culture", and consequently it's desirable to not live around them. If you want to blame someone for why we can't be open about this, blame white liberals, who [not so] secretly think exactly the same thing, but enforce a culture where nobody can say so because it flatters their moral vanity and is in their economic interests.
Joseph Morgan
He’s totally right, though. Savage nigger culture is a direct result of their weak cognition. Intelligent people understand that cooperation and empathy (among each other) is more practical for survival and yields more advanced societies with higher role specialization. So yes, nations which curb criminality for these reasons are morally superior.
Justin Watson
Or perhaps they're honest? If you've stumbled upon a conclusive proof that differences in cognition between certain populations are mostly due to genetic factors wouldn't you adopt simialr stance?
Owen Perry
>How can one claim blacks are genetically dumb, violent, and have lower levels of empathy and say with a straight face they're not saying blacks are morally inferior to whites?
The mistake is ascribing white values (morals) to a non-white race. You can't polish a turd.
>You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human. I don't know any of these e-celebrities you're trying to use as a strawman here but yes, I'd say sub Saharan Africans are not human. I don't wish them any ill will but they are entirely incompatible with western civilization.
Mongoliod races may be human. Again, I don't care and wish them all the best in their own homelands where they can express their genetic differences in their culture and society.
We just don't want to share a society. Ideally, we don't want to ever have to consider niggers again.
Bentley Gonzalez
why do we even use the word race? in every other animal group we use sub-species
Mason Bennett
the redpill is they are only violent living in superior cultures. they get frustrated they cant make it in society and so they turn to crime after watching CripzTV.
violence and crime in africa is them policing themselves. you see mobs of lunatics but they call it warfare.
Dominic Evans
Well, that would imply blacks and whites have differences other than skin color. Can't have that.
Camden Lee
Blacks are, properly, a different species entirely. >muh fertile offspring There are plenty of non-human species which can produce fertile offspring with other species; this "definition" of a species was made up specifically to avoid the NQ
Wyatt Scott
Please god, this.
Daniel Garcia
>You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human that' right. they're the only race I think that can probably be considered a separate species on some level.
this thing about it being a moral argument to point out the facts smells like a straw man. what is the point of debating whether it's a moral argument exactly? some races are superior to others in certain aspects, I don't think any one is superior completely, but there's enough of a difference to justify living separately, multiculturalism doesn't work
overall a pretty poor bait thread
Anthony King
>Blacks are, properly, a different species entirely due in part to their lack of neanderthal admixture that every other group has?
Asher Taylor
It's like they're living in a cage in our society. We must return blacks to their natural habitat. It's the humane thing to do. The poor niggerinos.
>How can one claim blacks are genetically dumb, violent, and have lower levels of empathy and say with a straight face they're not saying blacks are morally inferior to whites? The legal concept of moral culpability. It is illegal for a 18 year old (or younger) to receive a mandatory life sentence without parole in the United States because minors (and 18 year olds) are seen as not fully developed or matured. This same maturity or culpability test can be applied on a moral level to the races. Also none of those tards you posted actually believe what they're saying, it's all damage control
Justin Parker
Blacks, i.e. Americans, are predisposed to criminal activity.
Ryder Cook
Dogs vary in intelligence, strength and other factors due to their genetics, but we do not ascribe rankings to dogs based on these things. It is not racist to point out these differences
If one were to directly argue that there is a ranking of races, that would be racist
Dominic Rivera
>that' right. they're the only race I think that can probably be considered a separate species on some level. is ~2% denisovan admixture enough to classify asians as seperate?
>enforce a culture where nobody can say so because it flatters their moral vanity
No, they confront such ideas with such vitriol because ideas such as you expressed in their perspective justify violence or forceful restrictions to be done on blacks as something moral and sensible and they strongly don't want to see people of your ilk inflict such actions on blacks. Not sure how you don't see that as a motivation honestly. Anyway, thanks for your honesty.
Aaron Peterson
This is how women think
Lucas Watson
I don't see what point you're trying to make, jews aren't human either.
Owen Wood
Also I would like to argue 's point on a more serious level. What we regard as "white values" is western culture. We praise things such as debate, science, truth, rigour, etc all things that are empircally evident, the opposite of vagueness. It is undeniable that these values have led man to the moon and taken millions of people out of poverty but at the core, these are western lines of thinking.
Other cultures do not respond well to such plainness and rigour, they instead thrive in the realm of vagueness and mysticism wherein the ultimate goal of life is to achieve happiness or fulfilment The point I mean to make is that I believe it is wrong to pressure other races (which have naturally developed their own culture or atleast overarching idiosyncrasies) to adopt western culture as they are not naturally predisposed to excelling in such a culture
This is not to say that they are inferior but is the same as saying that a dog that is good at puzzle solving but not good at running would not fare well in a running race. We should not expect other races that are not western to participate in western culture (everything that the west is).
They should be left to their own devices to develop their own culture in the hope that they discover what they are predisposed to and allow them to excell in that
Carson Perry
Honesty leads to violence does it? Only when that honesty is defied.
There is a peaceful route but you children of the lie of equality keep blocking that path. It is you and your fantasies who bring violence. Your denial of the truth builds violent pressure.
Michael Adams
Nature doesn't care about morality. Morality is whatever people feel strongly about, morality evolved with people due to nature selecting for people who held morals against murder, theft, etc.
Blake Phillips
>This same maturity or culpability test can be applied on a moral level to the races.
If you find that to follow. Would you disagree with the statement that slavery of blacks wasn't an immoral act?
Ayden Moore
>I would even go as far as saying these views are implicitly justifying violence or constraints on the autonomy of blacks as morally justified. I mean, how is it not? >You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human. Brilliant, you managed to not argue against the facts, but argue that believing in them leads to uncomfortable conclusions so you shouldn't believe in them.
Josiah Martin
Because it's not a universal claim it's simply statistics. Just because I think any given group of people is more disposed to X doesn't say shit about them as individuals.
Judge individuals by the content of their character
Lincoln Ross
>You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human They're certainly a different subspecies. Sub saharan Africans are one step away from being lower primates. >why would things like slavery or segregation even be considering wrong from a race realist perspective We consider animals to be less evolved than us, but that doesn't mean we wish to harm them. >whenever someone calls you guys out on this by pointing to the logical conclusions of your own views Whenever someone shits out a platitude of strawmen to confirm his already established views.
Based
Brandon Martin
There's nothing wrong with Apartheid and non-whites should be exterminated. We didn't dehumanise them, they dehumanised themselves. They're not human and yes segregation is justified.
>You're practically arguing blacks aren't really human They aren't human though. Homo sapiens sapiens =/= some kind of darkskinned descendant of Homo habilis
Joshua Cruz
this basically closes any libfag argument. THEY deny reality and that denial causes pressure to build up until violence is necessary.
