I will never have pic related and an ethnostate with high enforced morals would just turn me into a total incel.
There is always a bottom of society but the current system makes it at least somewhat bearable.
Why should I be against degeneracy, when promiscuous 3/10 sluts are the only way for me to get laid?
Oliver Martinez
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Adrian Murphy
no one cares
Luis Baker
The simple answer, prostitution.
It's always been a thing, it's always been there.
The most non degenerate and most functioning societies had it. That doesn't mean accepting sluts, whores should be seen as second class people, because that's what they are.
But they should still be able to provide their services and play a role in the growth of men who would otherwise have no way of gaining experience.
Aaron Price
Will I be provided with a free whore once a month to keep the moral up?
Oliver White
Dude what? You should reject degeneracy because it destroys the foundations of our society, and is leading us into something resembling Hell on Earth. Im sorry that you were tricked into thinking this way, its kind of been the objective of the enemy the whole time. Youre worth far more than you probably realize. Any man can have any woman. I understand how that may seem impossible to you right now, but have faith. I mean the big one is LIFT. Its not just the physique aspect, but also the mental and psychological. As men, we really need to. It creates a positive feedback loop. Forget about the aesthetic, focus on the content. Develop yourself as a good man. When other men treat you with respect, women will notice, and vie for your attention. But that doesnt even really matter; at the end of the day, thats only one part of life. Getting laid isn't the pinnacle of achievement. I was born lucky, what a lot of people on this board call a 'chad'. I dont really agree with it, but no one fucking asked me for my opinion I guess. What this has taught me though, is the the female pursuit is a shallow one. We were brainwashed into thinking sex is the ultimate goal, the ultimate validation. Truth is though, that respecting yourself is the ultimate accomplishment. The race is long, brother. Dont give up on yourself just yet, youve got plenty of fight in you yet.
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Evan Bell
most girls look like pic related when they are 16-20. In a state that is not morally bankrupt and spiritually dead marriages would be strong, and people would be married off early in their youth.
Charles Cook
The best solution is to convert to Islam
Ryan Peterson
>You should reject degeneracy because it destroys the foundations of our society
Yeah because islmic societies are so functional.
Prudishness and teetotalling = destroyed society
Some degeneracy = functional society
It's not "either or" it's about finding a sweet spot. St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas predicted this btw.
Asher Sanchez
The anti-degenerates want you to pay for some bitch who's done having her fun while she pops out a bunch of bastards.
Don't listen to them under any circumstances. Remember most posters here are 60-year-old boomers with brains full of fluoride and one foot in the grave.
Stay strong, bro.
Landon Thomas
Name one negative difference between a virgin wife and someone who has experience under her belt.
Jacob White
Actually they're incel zoomers who think romance should be a mix of Disney movies and Islam.
Jacob Ramirez
Because of Yas Forums and Yas Forums memes
Ethan Jackson
The virgin will stray because she will become curious about other men.
Nathan Rogers
Uh.. Hello is this the based department?
Brayden Miller
That must be why virgin couples only have a 10% divorce rate while others have 50%, begone Moshe.
Asher Richardson
Islam is peak degeneracy. Anti-culture, murder and rape, race-mixing, slave morality, literally worshipping a paedophilic warlord. When will this meme that islam is anti-degeneracy die?
Connor Brown
Maybe if you fixed your life you could get something better than a 3/10 slut you worthless sack of shit.
Cooper Murphy
>Islam
>slave morality
I guess you haven't actually read Nietzsche.
Camden Campbell
Correlation is not causation
Logan Smith
I like virgins because I find the idea gross that she's had other men cum inside her. For similar reasons I like beautiful girl because I find ugly girls gross. I don't care about statistics t b h.
Eli Hughes
No u convert the women to islam
Beta males will follow
Luke Wilson
>literally make the extrapolation of something that correlates 90% of the time
>that does not mean causation
Statistical genius right here, Please provide us with more of you totally not retarded insights.
Camden Morales
>That must be why virgin couples only have a 10% divorce rate while others have 50%
Yeah that's BS.
Justin Myers
Islam is degenerate precisely because it is so prudish.
>The policy of toleration towards prostitution dates back to St. Augustine, who "observed that if prostitutes were not available, established patterns of sexual relationships would be damaged" (Brundage, 88). And Thomas Aquinas "wrote, apropos of prostitution, that if you were to take away the sewer, the whole palace would soon be filled with corruption" (McCall, 180).
And that's EXACTLY what happened in the Islamic world.
Daniel Clark
Islam permits sex slavery. Not really prudish if you can just buy a woman on the market.
Evan Richardson
Ryan Brown
>Anti-culture
False, only against parts of a culture that do not conform to religion, which is based, no degeneracy could pass in a society pretending to be "part of the culture", like sacrifices, forced marriage, pedophilia, etc...
>murder and rape
False, murder and rape are against islamic law, and are punished
>race-mixing
Compatibility between the spouses is encouraged, this includes differences in race, but if you want to race-mix you have the freedom to do so
>slave morality
In islam slaves have rights, wether you like it or not, they should be treated justly, even war prisoners have rights, and torture is forbidden
>a paedophilic warlord
Aisha was 19 years old, and the hadiths under which it's said she had less than that, are based on a non-fixed calendar, in fact, the muslim calendar's day 0 is the day Muhammad did Hijra, before that arabs referred to happenings in relation to others, pic related
Wyatt Bell
Shut the fuck up and leave pol. This is a chad board now.
Charles Sullivan
You're limiting your dating pool, this will cause unhappiness.
Besides, it's retarded to raise your daughters with this mindset, they will rebel anyways and if you are strict it will be worse.
Lucas Brown
But you agree that there's no reason to feel that way and it is just shallow preference?
Wyatt Wilson
Multiple sexual partners decreases a persons ability to pair-bond with one person. 'Some experience under their belt' sounds ridiculous to me. Sex shouldnt be placed on a pedestal, its only a small aspect of life. Sure its fun, but far more enjoyable with someone that youre emotionally in tune with, in my experience.
Lucas Powell
Literally starting your scientific meme graph with a bible quote and then proceeding to present uncited data
Carter Allen
Yeah, just like my shallow preference for sexy women.
>raising a daughter
Jfc.
Zachary Butler
That's why Islam is the solution, if his daughters believe in it, they will follow it on their will, and will result in no rebellion agains values that are now "old" in western societies
Brody Sanders
Based and true.
Hunter Morgan
i love these threads where 1st world degenerates are arguing over these topics long gone from their worlds
especially Dutch, Germans and French, literal degenerate atheist shitskin cesspool
you people literally live to see your empires crumble and your daughters be raped by niggers with filthy nails
Liam Price
> Multiple sexual partners decreases a persons ability to pair-bond with one person
This big claim requires evidence.
> sex is only a small part of life
Actually, financial wellbeing and good sex is what keeps unhappy couples together, something you would know had you done research.
Lucas Martinez
Ok so I actually agree with this. I guess 'degeneracy' is subjective anyway, different cultures hold different values. Dont want to spend too much effort defending Hajii, because Im not a huge fan, but islamic societies arent free of degeneracy anyways. Just because they have batshit crazy standards doesnt mean people dont break them. We've all seen the webm's of hajis doing weird gay shit.
anywho, youre right kraut-bro, life is more fun with a little color
Levi Young
stop caring so much about pussy you pathetic fuck
Alexander Hernandez
Because living a moral life of self-restrain is the only way to be free. Only by overcoming your vices and practicing self-restraint can be in the world and not of it. I'm not religious user but I know this to be the truth.
Oliver Torres
> St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas predicted
They did not predict nothing, the only expressed an opinion, predicting involves stating something will happen in the future...
Also theyr opinon does not matter, they are only normal people
>Prudishness and teetotalling = destroyed society
>Some degeneracy = functional society
If you accept a bit of degeneracy, then you are a bit degenerate
In Islam the people who will still do degeneracy in a society will do it in secret, which will allow for it not to be at the eyes of all the people, thus not increasing degeneracy in time like what happened in the west
Muslim societies wont always be Prudish 100%, what does matter though is that degenerates stay hidden, and low in number
Jeremiah Smith
Sex is not a vice, it's physically and mentally healthy.
People need to get it out of their head that our societies should be like they were 200 years ago.
Thomas Torres
I mean I can measure emotional attachment with a fucking yardstick dude, this kind of seems like common sense to me.
> provide proof that water is wet!
Seems like you want to argue for the sake of arguing. Totally cool, I understand thats what people come here to do. Fuck, thats part of life too, apparently. Theres a lot of facets to this game. Sex is only one of them. Mental stimulation is one of them, as we've noted. Theres a lot of shit to pay attention to in this life thing dude, maybe best not to get caught up. Youll end up stepping over a dollar to pick up a nickel. But hey, thats just my experience.
Henry Murphy
literally has a source section on the image, cope with the fact that your girlfriend will always think about the man that she had sex in the school stall with that has way more testosterone than you and will leave you for a man who is anywhere close to her first time but stays with you merely because you provide here with your betabux while she is banging stall chad while you are away at work. The atheist perspective on sexual morality was definitely worth it wasn't it?
Camden Rivera
Who is this girl???
William Lewis
if you come on raiding parties with us you can have your pick of women
Nolan Rodriguez
>Getting laid isn't the pinnacle of achievement. I was born lucky, what a lot of people on this board call a 'chad'.
Ever heard a billionaire lecture homeless people about how money isn't everything?
That's what you sound like.
Jayden Jackson
>Multiple sexual partners decreases a persons ability to pair-bond with one person
This is absolutely true.
Alexander Price
Unironically this, prostitution existed in all Christian nations, although it was looked down upon in the bible it was considered better to be a prostitute instead of a whore.
Jace Gray
>I am pathetic and so I have to pussyworship 3/10 whores to at least get a sniff of their vagina
You have mixed cause and cosequence. From this little you posted it is clear that you lack self-esteem and that you are seeking approval of women. why the fuck would ANY decent woman want you in a first place.
You are basically saying you are not good enough to have a good wife so you have to settle for being a slave to thots that will take your money and be cheating on you. You have to change yourself, thats the solution, not the other way around.
You can very easily have a women that is on the picture. You just have to stop being a beta male.
Work on your income, develop new skills, pay attention to your body and spirituality
>but i cant, thats impossible, im not good enough, i would become incel blah blah
Man. The. Fuck. UP.
Carter Campbell
Anything has good sides and bad sides
Sex is no different, it can have bad consequences if not done correctly, so it must be regulated, because sex between an unmarried couple, or incest HAVE bad consequences at the individual scale and at the societal scale
Samuel Wilson
Spot on, user
Christopher Roberts
Casual sex is a vice. I do agree that unprotected sex with your spouse is both of the things you mention. A man need not succumb to his urges and women need not be seen as sex objects. They are our sisters, wives, mothers, and friends. There is more to life than sex user. I encourage other anons to seek it. Once you give up porn this becomes painfully obvious.
Ryan Gutierrez
Again, what's wrong with casual, safe sex? Stop beating around the bush or ve humiliated further.
Carson Mitchell
jew me that you faggots
Sebastian Morales
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Ian Price
Decreases ability to pair bond.
Bentley King
I fucking love the Japanese
Jose Stewart
this argument won't work with him because he thing being a cuck increase pair bonding
Caleb Robinson
I'd rather die a virgin than stick my holy rod which my ancestors have bestowed me into some ugly cunt