The right to self-defense is self evident at every level of nature therefore if there is a god the right to self-defense is God-given. Not only do you have a right to own a gun you have a right to own any weapon of your choice. As far as I’m concerned you should be able to buy a tank, stealth, bomber, nuclear submarine or an aircraft carrier if you have the money.
That having been said I would like to mention that California has one of the largest gun owning populations in the United States. There are literally millions of people with guns in California. Maybe this bears repeating so let me say it to my California friends... You have guns retards use them.
Do you realize if even 100,000 of you showed up to your state capital with your A.R. 15’s or whatever else you had and got rid of all that California compliant shit right there on the state capital lawn and said fuck you there would be literally nothing they could do. You are at zero risk of going to jail or anything like that. I don’t understand what happened to the “come and take it mentality.” Californians clearly don’t believe that maybe it’s all the sunburnt cuckery and butt pumping, They engage in on a daily basis. But suffice to say I have no pity for California gun owners there one of the biggest gun owning the states and they don’t do shit about their fucking stupid laws even though they have the tools to fix the problem. I understand fighting these laws as an individual is difficult but if you show up on the state capital lawn together they can’t even arrest you all. If your guns are loaded they might not even try to rest any of you.
It really seems like you have no idea how the world works when it comes to the politics of the awb laws or anything.
> You have guns retards use them. People like you say this "just use them" to what? throw a gun party on the government? You'll never do it and it'll never happen. >Do you realize if even 100,000 of you showed up to your state capital with your A.R. 15’s or whatever else you had and got rid of all that California compliant shit right there on the state capital lawn and said fuck you there would be literally nothing they could do. Thats implying you would actually get that far and actually do it. An organization on that scale involving guns won't ever happen. >You deserve everything Lets actually look at California politics from the last ~40 years Basically Liberals like Reagan, yes he was a fucking Liberal, went about establishing gun control as a popular idea in California because basically if blacks had guns thats not right so lets ban them so blacks can't have them and the NRA defended the legislation because they too were in on the systemic racism. Gun control has never actually been about controlling guns, its been about disarming minorities first and getting political brownie points second.
Couple that with CA Republicans doing basically nothing for those last 40 years. Republicans and their entire political philosophy has basically been a bunch of fluff and have never gotten anything done and often times voted against the rights of people anyway. You wanna know why people won't vote republican today is because republicans 1. do nothing 2. often vote against your rights of any kind 3. If they do get power they won't push legislation that expands your rights.
Seriously why would any California vote for someone who would cut funding to schools or something equivocal but also not expand your gun rights?
Landon Phillips
Look at it from a broader perspective. US republicans have basically done nothing. From 2016 to 2018 they owned the senate and the house and they didn't do anything for your gun rights or disestablishing any other laws that violated your constitutional rights instead they spend 2 years trying to unfuck obamacare and couldn't even do that.
Anthony Myers
Couple this with the modern establishment of the typical citizen.
Few citizens are actually willing to give up their lives to try and gain more gun rights largely because modern conveniences and modern slaveries have made them incredibly comfortable. Many Californians and other US citizens alike will not go about "not complying" because its too risky when it comes to their livelihood. Few people are gonna risk a felony, lose their job, their income, their family, their future aspirations and literally every social network (for what few the US actually has) to have a pistol grip on their AR. It makes no sense in any case and the only people who say "don't comply" wouldn't do it themselves because its easier to say that on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
The only time in the last 100 years where people have become so uncomfortable with their living situation is right now where the Coronavirus has basically exploited every single flaw in modern US capitalistic society.
Owen Gutierrez
>I don’t understand what happened to the “come and take it mentality.” It doesn't exist. It is all bluster. Gun grabbers know this and thus push their shit with impunity. Gun owners will all say "yeah, let the courts sort it out."
David Peterson
This
>come and take it >nah I'm just gonna pass a law and for the next 20 years you're gonna get picked off by the police one by one >also I'll play off of boomers saying "fuck you I got mine" because thats exactly what I need to happen.
Jeremiah Walker
>The right to self-defense is God-given On what Theology do you base this assessment?
Nathan Lopez
That’s because Republican ideals don’t exist anymore all you have is it corporate neo-cons who don’t give a shit about liberalism. They only care about Jesus, banks, media companies, and jew.
Being pro gun control is conservative make sure to remind “liberals” of that I’m not sure at what point that word got corrupted but people don’t know what it means anymore also this is you butt boy >uhhhh that, that would never happen >squirts jizz into his pants >dont be fucking retarded they would round us all up in camps before we even got started.
No. you’re retarded and you need to stop watching porno’s. Let me give you a little secret if you’re scared of the government you’re retarded. Especially if you’re not doing anything illegal. The state of California is weak their government is weak. You’re basically acting like you live in Communist Russia where you are so inculcated with fear that you don’t even wanna try. Just admit you’re scared little bitch because that’s all your post tells me. You really didn’t have to write that much. But here’s the hard truth no one‘s coming for you no one‘s going to stop you. You’re just a porn addict and pussy would rather stay home and jack it then do anything for anyone else.
But my advice would be is to repent to your Lord and apologize for being such a scared little bitch
>that pic Non-commifornian here, what in the fuck am I looking at?
Colton Lopez
>That’s because Republican ideals don’t exist anymore Well if you're talking about actual conservatism thats completely fallen out of favor with millenials.
Easton Adams
Millenials >don't wanna vote for people who vote against their rights >don't wanna vote for someone who pushes jesus bullshit >don't wanna vote for someone who votes to defund schools or defund simple programs under the guise of saving taxes. >don't wanna vote for people who vote for cutting taxes for the rich but not millenials then brag about how they were gonna cut a social program so millenials could save on the menial insignificant tax that cost.
Cameron Campbell
oh yea and if you're gay, a minority of any kind, transgendered or any other thing that basically isn't straight white or rich, a republican will vote against your well being every single time.
You wonder why Republicans haven't held office in california for so stupidly long.
Sebastian Cooper
To add to this, our wilderness is one of the few inarguably good things about California and Republican candidates generally want to sell that off to corporations or otherwise destroy it.
Matthew Garcia
CA made it illegal to be able to wrap your thumb around a grip if it's a rifle in order to get people from buying guns like an AR, AK, or similar. That thing is a work around.
Carter Torres
It’s a logical conclusion. Every animal in nature even trees, common grass, even brainless bacteria practice self-defense to ensure there “right” to not be eaten isn’t “infringed”
So it’s not a theological argument its a logical one, and it’s a manner of speaking that is accurate. That is to say it is completely self evident that a right to self-defense is available even in a state of nature. Therefore it must be God given. Fucking brainlets
I will never understand people like you. You shit all over other people for trying to own and have fun with guns. You are under the 100% wrong impression that they want to have arbitrary requirements. It's pathetic. It always has been and always will be.
Colton Cruz
Actual conservatism is what the Democrats are. Being pro gun control telling a cake maker he has to make a cake for fags etc. Are all conservative political points to take. True liberalism is a live and let live mentality ie you cant take my guns or tell other what they can and cant do. Republicans are supposed to be liberals. It wasn’t until Nixon and Reagan did the republican party kind of became what it is today. It’s too bad too because as far as a political ideology republicanism is pretty fucking based. It’s a less retarded version of libertarianism.
Josiah Barnes
This isn't entirely true. You can get rifles with normal pistol grips if they have what legally qualifies as a fixed nah. You can do this with takedown pins or stripper clips depending on the gun. So no, regular pistol grips aren't outright banned.
Nathan Morris
1?
Connor King
That's still pretty awful.
Juan Morris
Semi-auto rifles cannot have pistol grips, you either use that thing or pic related
Because the Supreme Court has already struck down that kind of law. They have let all of the cosmetic ban laws stand. Literally that simple.
Justin Roberts
Better than a grip wrap, worse than a Thordsen. Probably best not to comment on something you have no experience with.
Kayden Perry
There’s a handgun roster in California, if a handgun isn’t listed there you can’t own it. Making an ar pistol isn’t in the roster so it’s illegal to own in California. There is a at pistol registered in the roster made by some company but it costs like +$1k
Ryan Morgan
You can get off roster handguns from private sales IIRC, not sure how building an AR pistol factors into that though
Luis Sullivan
biggest cope of the new decade
Camden Jenkins
Nobody, not even people in states like Arizona or Alaska, will fight back when the 2A is utterly gone in next 20 years. Then we will lose everything else. It’s been done to death already but we’re far too comfortable to fight for anything. Boogaloo memes are just memes.
Ethan Adams
Why don't you go to DC and fight the NFA, OP?
Isaiah Barnes
>but we’re far too comfortable speak for yourself
Brayden Wright
You can't build AR pistols because they aren't on roster.
Isaac Stewart
probably because they're up against a serious 2nd amendment infringement that would go straight to SCOTUS. Thats why so few states have banned AR's outright, I think only mass actually has.
Jackson Morgan
What's the advantage over a regular pistol wrap? The whole point of those is to keep the vertical grip shape but the thumb position makes it awkward and I hate the few I've handled. I have the Thordsen on my rifle but there would be no point to a fin or wrap on that style.
Carson Johnson
Well fuck man, if a state already managed to do it that just means California's liberals are low effort idiots.
Nolan Adams
Massholes can still get them they make state compliant models
Sebastian Wood
desu most AWB states just copied the horribly written 1994 AWB word for word, few states actually made it more restrictive and remember that the 1994 AWB was based on NJ's 1968 AWB even more horribly written.
Gavin Richardson
Here in NJ the pro gunners are organized and effective, we just killed two anti bills one would bar anyone with 1 animal abuse charge from guns for life and the other was to increase penalties on minors who fuck up with their parents guns. We also have made half the state a 2A sanctuary to varying degrees of symbolic and real effect. If we can get it done in fucking NJ Californians have no excuse.
Colton Davis
Yeah they mention manufacturing in the legislation.
Brandon Barnes
>tfw systemic racism backfired on the white man how do i get more of this feel
Joshua White
I'm not gonna post anything on a mangolian brisket waving forum but millions upon millions of us are so k to death of tyranny and if the government gets any worse are ready to shoot arrows at creepers in Minecraft
Armed Californians showed up to the state capital with weapons. And then Governor Ronald Reagan, with the support of the NRA, signed the Mulford Act banning open carry in California. So I don't think it'll turn out the way think you it will.
When has a republican EVER voted to help a straight white man? You don't live here, do you, shareblue?
Bentley Richardson
>The poor niggerinos Yeah, dealing with niggers directly was banned by Brown v. Board of edcuation, so since pattern recognition is now illegal, we have shitload after shitload of gay ass laws. Thanks niggers.
John Brooks
>armed Californians
Those are like 11 niggers user. No wonder they banned it. 11 bumper lips with Pretty scary if you ask me. It seem like the choice opportunity for gun control.
Oliver Jones
What'cha got on the end of that barrel, friend?
Zachary Long
California has the 2nd most gun owners.
Matthew Torres
It's the same reason we can't own a ruger charger, even though its rimfire. California doesn't allow any handgun that takes a magazine outside the grip because they deem it an assault weapon
Cameron Cook
>yea I'm all for the 2nd amendment but if blacks also buy guns then I don't want them to.
Carson Mitchell
You seriously wonder why republicans aren't winning any elections.
>omg guys we're losing elections left and right what should we do? >appeal to new voters >no fuck that they're tranny niggers
Ryan Parker
oh yea, in the case of the AR you could have a legal, fixed magazine AR pistol but since AR's aren't on the pistol roster then its automatically banned.
The DOJ occassionally adds pistols to the roster but also sets an expiry for many pistols which is fucking stupid because the requirements for roster addition don't change but the guns can fall out of safety compliance? They're also losing more pistols to expiry than they're adding so there used to be like 18,000 pistols on the list now theres only like 700
Ryder Harris
They've been pandering to them for decades with no results. Trump comes along and appeals to white blue-collar types and wins. And then Kushner gets him to abandon that and pander to the niggerinos again and guess what, he's way behind Biden now.
You can't win by appealing to people who hate you, hate your race, and hate your values at the expense of your voter base.
Alexander Jackson
>pandemic >Virginia democrats use it to reinstitute all the gun control that got repealed in the 00s Lmao, get cucked fags.
Christian Lee
>They've been pandering to them for decades with no results. No they fucking haven't, every republican voted against gay marriage well throughout the 2000's until SCOTUS ruled it legal.
Isaac Taylor
It’s a joke
It’s 2020 and no one is afraid of blacks me more. Frankly it’s a little embarrassing that anybody ever was.
Parker Rogers
I think franklin armory makes a CA legal AR pistol with a detachable mag, but it's also a "straight pull bolt action"
Jason Gray
All firearms that are not pistols must be over 30" in length otherwise they're automatically assault weapons. Its fucking stupid.
Nolan Murphy
It is sad to see that California is able to get away with such a scheme. The fortunate thing is the faster the rate California politicians narrow the roster, the probability of a lawsuit being filed against it not being thrown out for no merit increases, you could probably make a math equation for it. 700 pistols won't hold up and I hope it continues to be narrowed. Good luck Californians.
Jacob Murphy
If you're pissed off start pushing 2a sanctuary in California You cucks have only yourselves to blame, even NJ has a good pro 2a movement now, because we stood up and the antis were too high or indifferent to come oppose us
Ayden Peterson
>only have themselves to blame OY VEY THOSE STUPID CALIFORNIANS AND THEIR OPEN BORDERS HUH
PROP 187 IS ILLEGAL NO DONT WIKI PROP 187!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Easier said then done. It sucks that a majority of Cali is cucked and any peaceful protest gets no where. Hopefully corona Chan makes these faggot liberal as jokes realized how shit their gun laws are that they voted for as they try to obtain them and are straight up bitch slapped in the face
haha yeah so dumb and politically incorrect yucky we love the govt here
Alexander Hernandez
>HURR DURR WE FOUGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS >is from a red state where anti-gun legislation doesn't even have a chance of getting on the ballot, let alone passing
Jaxon Gutierrez
not him but don't pretend that the boomer evangelical bullshit is anything worth defending.
Jonathan Wood
Of course, those issues remaining issues is how they get elected.
John Cox
nigger who literally has never been to california or talked to californians and thinks that all californians are the same and sterotypical go back to your shitty flyover stupid inbred nigger
Ryder Martinez
Fun fact, did you know that the Californian constitution does not explicitly state that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed? This is the basis for most rulings made by the Californian Supreme Court and why they get away with their bullshit laws.
Nolan Martin
It's like you never saw what happened in Richmond.
Samuel Torres
Did you know that you have absolutely no understanding of how the court system works?
Logan Ross
Are you referring to the neo-Confederate heavy rally that achieved basically nothing? The only thing they avoided temporarily is a CA/NY style AWB. All the other shit passed.
Kayden Butler
It has nothing to do with the virus and everything to do with flipping both chambers in the state legislature. Read a book nigger. Fuck.
Brody Reyes
based
Leo Anderson
I do not care about what the kikes in tel avivmento have to say about anything
Michael Ortiz
Shotguns are legal under 30". The KSG and KS7 are legal in CA and they are 26.1", legally shotguns because they have 18.5" barrel
