Why have Jews historically and recently been such big proponents of left wing social/economic movements??
Jews and Leftism
Parker Morgan
Jacob Baker
Because they were always a minority. It makes them support equality.
Jason Rivera
Okay, and? Capitalism and communism has some Jewish political theorists. It's contradictory to say that all Jews support both.
Hudson Morgan
>It's contradictory to say that all Jews support both.
No they usually only support one or the other
(((Capitalism))) and ((((Communism)))) are two sides of the same Jewish Coin though
Pic fucking related.
Noah Flores
That's retarded. Communism is a political-economic philosophy which puts the working class masses in power rather than the capitalist class. If Jews really did want control, they'd support capitalism rather than communism - which would deprive them of the ability to exploit through its goal of eliminating class rule.
Dominic James
Why address a small percentage of the elite with pseudoscientific racial conspiracy theories when I can address ALL of the exploiters and parasites with class analysis?
Noah Cook
Lenin was at best 1/5th Jew.
He didn't know of his Jewish ancestry and wasn't raised as one.
Lenin was entitled to Tsarist nobility rank.
Owen Torres
Because they are high up in the goverment. They have full control, something which you can obtain with money too.
All that you can do with money you can do with power. So it's a win win for the Jews.
Lenin himself was Jewish lqd
Camden Sanders
The working class has full control, the vanguard party is just the representatives of the working class and through the mass line, local peoples' congresses, and so forth it reflects their interests rather than the interests of the capitalist class.
Kevin Davis
>The worker class has full control
Nope. Not if you're smart in any way. That's the easiest way to destroy your utopia.
Gavin Clark
>That's retarded. Communism is a political-economic philosophy which puts the working class masses in power rather than the capitalist class.
No it puts the "dictatorship of the proletariat" in power until absolute Communism could be achieved
As you would well know if you ever actually read Marx.
And as Marxism does not EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE jews from Communism
Said Dictatorship always winds up being fucking kikes.
This has happened time after time and can be demonstrate in mutiple instances.
>If Jews really did want control, they'd support capitalism rather than communism
Why?
They know capitalism is a system that cant survive in the long run,.
((((They)))) set it up to be that way
>which would deprive them of the ability to exploit through its goal of eliminating class rule.
"The best way to defeat the opposition is to lead them"
-Lenin.
Bet you thought he was talking about leading the "right wing" didnt you?
Kek.
No.
Under a Jewish Controlled Communist State Class never gets abolished
It just gets rebranded
The And the working class believes it overthrough its oppressors
When in reaility?
The same (((Tribe))) is ultimately still in chage.
>Why address a small percentage of the elite with pseudoscientific racial conspiracy theories when I can address ALL of the exploiters and parasites with class analysis?
Becuase you will end up allowing the same Race that rules over yours today BACK INTO POWER because you refuse to view them on an ethnic basis instead of a Class one
As they themsleves VEIW themselves
Pic related.
Julian Rodriguez
>He didn't know of his Jewish ancestry
*supposedly.
Julian Hernandez
Well Lenin wasn't a jew and he said jews shouldn't be left to rule the Soviet government only few of them also Stalin made it even worse for the Jews.Jews saw Communism just as an alternative to escape from oppression but those faggots only ended up to be treated worse and be considered rootless cosmopolitans.
Joseph Gomez
>Well Lenin wasn't a jew
>jpost.com
"Documents apparently confirming rumors that Vladimir Lenin had Jewish ancestors can now be seen at Russia’s State History Museum, AP reported on Monday."
"Among the newly released documents on display at the museum is a letter written by Lenin’s sister, Anna Ulyanova, claiming that their maternal grandfather was a Jew from the Ukraine who converted to Christianity to escape persecution in the Pale of Settlement and have access to higher education, the report said."
///
Suck my nuts you Communist Nigger faggot.
Hunter Jones
Funny.. Marx himself said that jews are defenders of captialism.
Evan Rogers
While Being a Jew himself.
Isaiah Johnson
I love these.
Jeremiah Sullivan
>dictatorship of the proletariat
You don't understand what that means. Class dictatorship is different than autocratic dictatorship.
The term 'dictatorship' in general just means the absolute rule of one force over another. Under capitalism, we live under what Marx called the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie", or capitalist class rule. "Dictatorship of the proletariat" means that the proletariat (the working class) rules over the bourgeoisie (the capitalist class). Capitalism isn't unstable because it was intentionally set up that way, capitalism is unstable because of its inherent inner-contradictions that lead to crises of overproduction. The profit motive sacrifices long term stability and human need, for short-term profitability and capitalist greed.
>And as Marxism does not EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE jews from Communism
Well, yes, we're not anti-semitic conspiracy theorists. We're scientific and analyze the world in a dialectical-materialist fashion and not through pseudoscientific racialism.
Hunter Cruz
Yeah, (((hitler))) was leftist himself.
Nicholas Collins
Because in real capitalism without their dirt influence they can be marginalize and maybe even eradicate. Biggest example is Japan before you mutts as hounds for kikes break the japanese progress in the 70's80's.
Josiah Garcia
>pseudoscientific racialism.
Biology is a part of material reality, and tribalism is a real social phenomenon that you can't handwave away. After 70 years of communist party rule, the Soviet Union still split up due to nationalist rebels wanting separatism.
It's funny you call us irrational, when you yourself don't have a guaranteed method to prevent nonwhites from being tribal and rent-seeking from whites.
Nolan Hall
>Why have Jews historically and recently been such big proponents of left wing social/economic movements??
They have also been big proponents of right wing social/economic movements. In fact pretty much every movement that isn’t explicitly anti-Semitic (and even some of those lol) is disproportionately Jewish.
Zachary Garcia
>You don't understand what that means.
No i do you fucking Nigger.
Whether your organization is made up of "soviets" or is outright autocracy (as (((lennin)))) eventually created in the USSR because decentralized coops are that much of a piece of shit) it all comes under Jewish dominaton so long as you let jews particpate in the system
As Joseph Stalin himself Said
"Those who vote determine nothing, those who count the votes determine everything."
>The term 'dictatorship' in general just means the absolute rule of one force over another. Under capitalism, we live under what Marx called the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie", or capitalist class rule.
Also Largely kikes who have historically worked with commies as this user helped to illustrate >> Capitalism isn't unstable because it was intentionally set up that way
Modern Capitalism is almost all derived from the works of a certian jew by the name of ((((David Richardo))))
Who INVENTED most of the free trade, human life is worthless, anti-national global capitalist bullshit that we suffer under today.
Going completely against almost everything Adam Smith actuallly advocated for.
It was set up to fail in order to create the Conditions for a Communist revolution by which the Jews could finnally slaughter the monarchs of Europe (just as they had done in the french revoltuion) and institute their final rule over the goym.
You and your ideology is nothing more then a bitch to the ((((Masters)))) who rule over us today.
And that is why they outright SUPPORT or at the least ignore the spread of Marxist ideas online but Censor National Socialist ones.
(((They))) arent afraid of you because you serve them.
/we/ dont.
>capitalism is unstable because of its inherent inner-contradictions that lead to crises of overproduction.
And what fucking educated person would implement such a system?
Answer:
Someone who had something to gain from its down fall.
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Carson Torres
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Its a pretty simple scheme when you look at it as such
1
Implement Capitalism creating class antagonism in the process. (Very few revolutions occured in European Monarchy prior to the advent of Capitalism which treated the people as less then slaves)
2.
Allow the system to collapse and utilize the ensuing revolution to kill off the masters of the old regiem.
3.
Assume controll of the new state and proclaim your "victory over the ruiling class" the goym none the wiser to your plan from the start.
THIS IS WHY Marx could say that "Communism" was inevitable the end result of Capitalism.
Of course it was
IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE.
>The profit motive sacrifices long term stability and human need, for short-term profitability and capitalist greed.
user if you seriously think the Powerful are just fundamentally unsure what the fuck they are doing i have a hard fucking time taking yoou seriously.
>Well, yes, we're not anti-semitic conspiracy theorists.
Which is why you are allowed to post your content on social media sights controlled by multi-billion dollar corporations and we are censored
You serve the people in power.
You are for the Revolutin of the Masters.
We are the only actual opposition to the whole damn ((((system))) as it is.
>We're scientific and analyze the world in a dialectical-materialist fashion and not through pseudoscientific racialism.
All just a cover to avoid thinking about ideas you were indoctrinated not to think about
It would be funny if it wasnt so fucking depressing.
Ryan Barnes
Pound Sand Kike.
Fair point kek.
Camden Brooks
No, it doesn't. Is impossible to put the biggest chunk of society in charge. Never happen, and never will. Is just the old, "I was a communist before even know what work was".
Everything from Karl Marx texts are pure stupidity. He never work but that somehow make him expert in work. He never pass necessity because he explore his idiot best friend and his wife a british nobel or whatever. had a bastard with his maid that he never accepted, let his legimit children all die without a care, hated god but somehow was a atheist.
And for sure din't had a limited point of view of something that he knew nothing about, industrial progress. Everything that happen after that even in the Industrial Era had influence of his garbage texts that don't even make sense and no social experiment made in the last 150 by the commies/sociafags/marxfagists has ever work. People lost their freedom, right to live, and any oportunity to improve themselves.
And to off everything else it calls for total equality as if it's a principle in the universe, is not, faggot. Everything in the universe is made different or nobody here would even exist. Imagine if the atoms would be equal to one another, hahahahahaha, fucked up science you have over there.
Even science end up corrupted. Marxism in any of it ittineration was no more than a non-crowned kingdom were the member of the party are the nobles and the king is the supreme leader. Everybody else is a slave. Change my mind, ching.
Jose Robinson
The dissolution of the USSR wasn't done through vote, much of what Gorbachev, Khrushchev, and Yeltsin did were against the constitution of the USSR. A referendum was done before the USSR was illegally-dissolved asking if they would like to preserve the Soviet Union, and 80% voted, and out of that percentage, 76% voted yes. The dissolution of the USSR was illegal, undemocratic, and against the wishes of the masses.
Most of 'race' is socially and culturally constructed, rather than being a part of material reality. Race was invented to justify imperialism and colonialism. What human population groups have are small clinal variations, not different races. The human race is one race.
Ethan Jenkins
yawn
Andrew Rogers
Lmao, you fascists are unreasonable. Well, I guess there's a reason why the Soviets put nazis in Gulags instead of trying to reason with them in "muh marketplace of free ideas". We Marxists will continue with class analysis and the theory of class struggle and advancement of productive forces as the driving forces of history, rather than conspiracy theory nonsense of 'muh Jews', 'muh superiority'.
Aaron Cook
This is ridiculous. Small groups of people rubbing their hands together and plotting things don't change history, the development of material conditions, productive-forces, and production-relations do. Capitalism was put into being because the existing production relations were rendered incompatible with the advancement of the productive forces and the superiority of capitalism over feudalism.
Joshua Morales
Why does Lenin look like Louis CK?
Robert Lopez
>Why have Jews historically and recently been such big proponents of left wing social/economic movements??
not sure why - even back to biblical times they loved that communal no property shit.
but what it ultimately is about is, (1) internationalism and (2) agitation.
With internationalist, e.g., workers of the world unite, they can beat back and attack the nationalist and healthy in-group aspects of the dominate ethnic group (whether it be russians, germans, or now "whites" in america)
for (2) its all about agitation. in economic marxism they try to agitate the workers, in cultural marxism they try to agitate as many minory gruops as possible, and create new minority groups. this way they can have constant instability and subversion against the dominant ethnic group. this is actually a classic tactic for anyone attempting to attack an enemy - try to get the unhappy in any regime to revolt.
its all about tribal politics.
Charles Edwards
sometimes a jew develops a conscience and actual moral reasoning.. it's not supposed to happen but it does.
Sebastian Fisher
>The dissolution of the USSR wasn't done through vote, much of what Gorbachev, Khrushchev, and Yeltsin did were against the constitution of the USSR. A referendum was done before the USSR was illegally-dissolved asking if they would like to preserve the Soviet Union, and 80% voted, and out of that percentage, 76% voted yes. The dissolution of the USSR was illegal, undemocratic, and against the wishes of the masses.
And yet it happened.
Without a single Shot fired
Or a single Communist General using his men to stop people from tearing down the Berlin wall.
Its almost as if both Communism and Capitalsim are both controlled by the same group hu Commie?
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
IF only we could figure who this ((((group)))) is.
>Most of 'race' is socially and culturally constructed
Whenever I hear someone say this i always know that they havent bothered to ever think about it seriously in their life time.
"Race" is a word. And words are part of language which is a social construct we use to describe the material world
But just because the words are social constructs does not make the underlying realities any less real.
People would have the genes they due today deviding them into sub groups REGARDLESS as to whether or not they recognized the existence of said sub groups.
Race is a biological construct, not a social one.
Not an argument.
>Lmao, you fascists are unreasonable.
Beats the hell out of being wrong.
Or being a cuck who supports ideologies shilled by corporations he is supposedly opposed to.
> Well, I guess there's a reason why the Soviets put nazis in Gulags instead of trying to reason with them in "muh marketplace of free ideas".
Yeah, they knew they would get beat the fuck out in a debate.
As they were in virtually every free society where National Socialism was allowed to be debated and as commies routinely get btfoed online to this fucking day.
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Connor Thompson
>Yeah, they knew they would get beat the fuck out in a debate.
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean Paul-Sartre
Eli Williams
>class is different from autocractic
Not when you're 2% of the population retard.
Cooper Lopez
can u stop making the jews sound based af lol
Mason Cooper
"race science" as much as it can be called that consistently conforms to the material conditions of their time.
Compare views of race of merchantile and capitalist colonialism and compare that to the view of race of the Roman empire. in Vitruvius' view nordic peoples were a bunch of bloodthirsty savages who were hotheaded because they lived further away from the sun and therefore the blood had to remain in their head to deal with their conditions of cold which in turn prevents their ability to think rationally (as all the blood is clogging up the brain) which in turn makes them hotheaded.
Under today's circumstances such a view of them would be absolutely laughable even in the views of any modern day race 'scientist', even though it correlates perfectly to the material conditions of Rome. Likewise Virtuvius of course considered the "italian race" to be the master race which is located perfectly under the sun and likewise inhibits the positives of both the nordic peoples and southern peoples.
Why is it that advocates of racial science are always coincidentally "da master race" and that the people who they're oppressing are "da inferior race"?
William Martinez
racism and colonialism are cool if it benefits my people and nation
Grayson Allen
Messianic equalitarism. Waiting for the reign of peace and equality when the messiah comes is central in Judaism. Well, some jews got impatient and thought that the messiah was kind of long to come, and that maybe we could try to make that reign come without him.
>Rabbi when will reign of peace and equality come ?
>soon, soon, now continue respecting those thousands of random ritual rules that make no sense if you want him to come.
Some jews got bored and thought " why not make the reign of peace and equality right now ? ". As everyone know, this turned out pretty badly. But the " leftist jew " is mostly a figure of the past. The jews are mostly out of the leftist adventurism that characterized a good part of their youth in the early 20th century. Bernie Sanders and other pro-immigration jewish tards are ghosts of the past.
Now they're mostly neo-liberal zionist fucks who just want to preserve their interest at the depends of others. Israel itself dropped all leftist tendencies that characterized its birth ( kibbutz culture ) to turn full neo-lib.
Nicholas Rivera
>USSR referendum
Oh yeah, the referendum counting by the Bolshevik Party, lol. Tell me why they suddenly valued democracy then, but not for their thousands of previous high-level bureaucrats who had absolute authority over the KGB and military.
I'm more keen to trust the Poles who were in open strike against the Soviets, and also the citizens of Moscow who threw molotovs at the tanks sent to arrest Yeltsin. USSR was essentially just a military dictatorship by late 1991; while the Russian Federation was a legitimate state.
>Most of 'race' is socially and culturally constructed, rather than being a part of material reality
Cool Lysenkoist denialism comrade. Race has always been a part of material reality, because your genetics literally determine the structure of your body - including your brain, and hormones that affect behavior patters. You can admit that niggers are better runners due to having more fast-twitch muscle tissue in their legs; but you're afraid of the ramifications of genetics affecting brain capacity (intelligence) because it interferes with your egalitarian idealism. Essentially, you need the concept of "Tabula Rasa" to be true in order to justify a large part of your philosophy.
Here's a Japanese scientist's research paper on whites having higher intelligence than niggers as a trait having evolved from selection pressure in cold climates:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
> Race was invented to justify imperialism and colonialism.
Concepts of race go back as far as Ancient Greece, when they described the differences between Greeks, Vandals, Persians, Nubians, etc. Greeks still kept note of race even when they were subjects of other empires/nations, so I doubt it was something the elites only professed to justify invasions. Again, you're trying to put everything into the frame of a book written by a salty Jew in the 1800s who was mad Israel got rekt and the Anglos, French, and Germans were in the spotlight.
Ian Baker
>s". We Marxists will continue with class analysis and the theory of class struggle and advancement of productive forces as the driving forces of history, rather than conspiracy theory nonsense of 'muh Jews', 'muh superiority'.
And in so doing you will continue to be the bitch of the Race that invented and propagates the very system of economics you complain about
kek.
Leftism really is a fucking comedy at the end of the day.
>This is ridiculous. Small groups of people rubbing their hands together and plotting things don't change history
The fuck do yo call the Treaty of Versailles?
>the development of material conditions, productive-forces, and production-relations do.
None of which exist without individual cooperation and "conspiracy" on the individual level.
Human interaction is the life blood of history (as Marx himself understood)
Its not strange to believe a creature whos half a chromsome away from a chimpanzee would have his social interactions primarely based on ethnic nepotism derived from evolutionary self interest.
> Capitalism was put into being because the existing production relations were rendered incompatible with the advancement of the productive forces and the superiority of capitalism over feudalism.
In other words
Some greedy fucking ((((Merchants))) had alot to profit from enslaving the goym.
No one denies this
The only issue is the retarded belief that they DIDNT KNOW the gig had a timer on it from the word go
Which is somewhat debunked by the fact that the very ((((tribe))) who BENEFITED from and INVENTED Capitalism was also the one to come up with the "solution to Capitalism"
The one that allowed their tribe to completely and utterly domiante entire fucking nations for decades without any hope of possible resistance.
You.
Are.
((((Their))))
Bitch.
There is absolutely NOTHING revolutionary about Marxism.
And the idea that it is in opposition to the status quo is a fucking joke
There is a reason they censor us butnotyou.
Kayden Allen
u do know hitler declared war on the ussr first yh?
Sebastian Fisher
Carter Nguyen
Spare me.
>Sure, keep telling yourself that.
Well considering the fact you've effectively given the fuck up on debating me it seems like a pretty reasonable assertion lol.
>Jew saying how rediculous anti-jew shit is.
It trully is a marvel to me a how commies can swallow this much propaganda and still claim to think freely.
>BASED JEWS RUILING OVER MY RACE HARDER DADDY!
This is your brain on communism.
Hunter Scott
that image lol why was raping Berlin wrong?
Lucas Bennett
Okay, if Jews really started communism then that's based - Not those dumb Zionist Jews and libertarian Jews. Commie Jews are where it's at.
Cameron Edwards
>"race science" as much as it can be called that consistently conforms to the material conditions of their time.
Which in no way shape or form changes the objective reality of race.
Even if the whole world was universally WRONG about what race was or where it came from (As it was many times throughout history)
This would still not change evolutionary sub groups humans objectively and demonstrably formed themselves into.
>Compare views of race of merchantile and capitalist colonialism and compare that to the view of race of the Roman empire. in Vitruvius' view nordic peoples were a bunch of bloodthirsty savages who were hotheaded because they lived further away from the sun and therefore the blood had to remain in their head to deal with their conditions of cold which in turn prevents their ability to think rationally (as all the blood is clogging up the brain) which in turn makes them hotheaded.
Again dude
How does this change the Genetic make up of either people?
If i consider all indians and Africans to be in the same race cause they both have dark skin this in no way shape or form actually changes the genetic destintions that exist within them.
They are both of different races whether or not i identify them as such.
>Why is it that advocates of racial science are always coincidentally "da master race" and that the people who they're oppressing are "da inferior race"?
There is no such thing as a "master race"
no race is proven objectively inferior untill it completely and utterly dies out as a result of evolution.
You are merely referring to how people VIEWED RACE throughout history instead of the biological reality of race said concepts were imperfectly based on
Which existed and continue to exist regardless of human understanding to this day.