Grave leasing fees, Germany

So according to you, every citizen who ever lived should have a free grave site for ever and ever on state land. Cool sense of entitlement, I guess.

Usually these leases also entail the upkeep of the site so it's not overgrown with weeds etc.

State owned/operated multifaith cemeteries would create thousands and thousands of jobs. What's the problem with everyone having a resting place, and lesser skilled people having reliable jobs? The current system is clearly broken if they're regularly exhuming bodies and throwing them away like garbage.

>Pay rent while you are alive
>Die
>Pay rent just to be dead
Something is wrong with this

Germans are dumb Nazis and have a tough time growing out of this.

>State owned/operated multifaith cemeteries

How to dial the dystopian future to over 9000... Now tell me where she is buried so I can tell her what a pathetic cuck her grandson is.

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So cemeteries just keep expanding into infinity? You do realize a lot of people die every year? Heidelberg would soon be nothing but a cemetery if you got your way. You talk about honoring the dead, but you yourself are obviously not prepared to honor the dead unless someone else pays for the honoring. Funny how that works. In my city, there are many cemeteries that simply cannot expand because they're locked by other land use on all sides. This is presumably the case in a lot of places.

You support Kindergeld right? Of course you do. So why wouldn't you support resting places for your relatives? From the first to the last moments of someone's life they're valuable.

idk healthcare is a luxury in the US

>regularly exhuming bodies
Nobody gets exhumed if you stop paying, your gravestone will be removed and another person is buried in your spot.
If there are remains after 10 years they will be buried again on the same spot.
Simple as that.

Your birth/death rates are abysmal, all numbers are declining rapidly ergo all the shitskins in your country now. You're worried about there not being enough space when there is no "next generation"?

Who cares? They’re dead. Just let them get dug up.

>nothing gets taken out of the hole, but we put more stuff into the hole, and it stays the same.

....wut

You’d still pay for it in taxes

you moved to a place were you have no land
EAT SHIT

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It's free for poor people and employers pay for most people to have Healthcare. Completely different topic though. Does France also throw corpses away like they're garbage?

Dude do you think people in the US get free graves for ever and ever?

The fuck is this draconian shit? In the US you buy a plot and it's yours to be dead in forever.... because you fucking bought it.

Right, not as much. Don't see a problem with a "hands free" system, do you?

You're kinda right, most of my land is a river. Just upgraded to this place in February. February 6th to be exact.

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No we buy a plot of land and the maintenance fees are covered in perpetuity with the cost of the land. Why isn't it the same there?

New York has been burying unclaimed bodies on Hart Island in mass graves without a tombstone for years.

We eat our deceased. Burying meat is inhumane.

So suddenly the discussion changes completely when you get called out for being irrational and entitled. You get mad and start raging at me. Muh rapidly declining numbers ergo lol. You're a clown.

Right. That's why I'm confused about having to pay Germany money to not throw my Oma in a dumpster.

no you dont , the staate will take it and you can go and fuck your self because your dead.
What you gona do? risse from the dead and shoot the people taking your grave nigger?

Yes mental patients and bums. I live not too far from there actually.

Neat.

Same topic, you mentioned infinitely expanding cemeteries, I mentioned more people are dying than being born, so the need would be gone after our generation dies, because no babies. Same topic.

>From the first to the last moments of someone's life they're valuable.

Absolutely agreed - and then the life ends and you become organic waste that smells disgusting and spreads diseases. That's why it gets buried or burned. Graveyards are of course a giant waste of habitable space if they're in a city, so if you want to keep a place reserved for the rotting remains of your relatives, you better pay up.

nein as german graves are fro german people not fucking american niggers. What ever is left will be burnd and you get the ashes. Nobody will dump corpses anywhere we are not us mutts.

If you're buried here the costs of maintaining your grave FOREVER are included in the costs of purchasing the burial plot. You don't use this system for some reason, so a state funded system would work the best. What do you do with the corpses?

>No we buy a plot of land and the maintenance fees are covered in perpetuity with the cost of the land.
>in perpetuity
HAHAHAHAH no. The grant of exclusive burial usually lasts between 25-100 years, as stipulated by the contract or local law. Normal burial plots in normal cemetaries do not last forever. If you want an enternal grave you need to buy actual real estate them hope your great great grandchildren don't sell it off.

You doxed yourself you dumb fucking braggart.

Indeed, after 15 years nothing other then a fiew bones remain, wood and flesh and textile is gone.
Those fiew bones are laid aside and will be laid on the new coffin afterwards.
All of you stays there forever, you only lose your gravestone.

Graveyards have been soverign groud, across the planet, for the entire time of our existence as civilized people. You're doing a disservice to your ancestors by allowing their remains to be disposed like garbage.

Normal cemeteries don't house mummies. You do realize that bodies and coffins rot away in the ground.

Are you in a more rural area? Would surprise me if you could hold on land in a graveyard forever

No it isn't you retard. If you are talking about a normal cemetary it is not forever. You can bury someone forever on your own property, assuming your great great grandchildren don't sell it.

I think you can still buy grave plots in germany from private companies.

My street isn't even registered with the post office. If you want to call the real estate agent I bought it from, by all means.

So Austrians think an infinite amount of debris will fill a finite space? That's neat.

because your country was basically empty land barring a few shitskins and everyone could own land there including for burying the dead, while euro cities have had graveyards for hundreds of years if not millennia as well as history of multiple plagues that led to pretty rigid standards for burials

we've also had so many wars passing by that if we tried to give a cemetary to each of them like you have for the civil war or the normandy dead we'd be nothing but graveyards

do you really think that there's a corpse remaining after 30 years? if there's a bit of ashes left then the grave will be dug deeper, the remains put there and the new coffin over it

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Very close to NYC. That's how all graves everywhere in America work.

Yes, after many years. Embalmed people tend to decay much slower.

Yes it is, grave maintenance forever with the cost of the parcel of lands. No one ITT had told me what they do with the remains. You throw them away like garbage, like those Viking artifacts right?

>My street isn't even registered with the post office.
It certainly is with realtor com. Searching the address pinpoints your actual location.

People will keep dying for as long as there are people. Death vs birth rates are irrelevant. You will still have your cemeteries expanding every year since everyone has their own special snowflake grave provided by the state for ever and ever.

When buried six feet down, without a coffin, in ordinary soil, an unembalmed adult normally takes eight to twelve years to decompose to a skeleton. However if placed in a coffin the body can take many years longer, depending on type of wood used. For example a solid oak coffin will hughly slow down the process. So this is an all natural burial, not including chemically treated wood coffins, and embalmed people.

Just cremate the body, dump the ashes somewhere, and move on with your life. It's just a corpse. Graves and tombstones are just forms of denial in the face of death. We're all going to die and not even memories of us will ever be permanent. Forget the dead and embrace life while you still have it.

>infinite amount of debris will fill a finite space
Well, you are a mutt therefore i explain it again, in slow.
A person in a coffin rots over time, so does the coffin. After 15 years a handfull of bones are left in the grave. So the whloe space of the grave is filled with earth and a handfull of bones. After 15 years you stop paying and another one pays for 15 years, in this time your bones vanished and in the grave there are earth and a handful of bones of the guy buried after you.
No infinite debris.
Got it now?

Here the minimum lease is 25 years. If there is something left in the grave after that, the grave is dug deeper and the remaining remains laid there and new coffin on top.

Neat. Don't care.

>even if people aren't born, they'll die in the future

....wut