>seastead an artificial island in international waters >declare an independent libertarian nation >constitution explicitly states "Anything you do voluntarily is legal" >after getting angel investment, begin expanding and building housing complexes, offices, entertainment centers, and warehouses >government owned drug centers and manufacteries, brothels, medical centers, and other things open up employing people >becomes a major tourist destination, but with a required financial deposit when you enter in order to sent people who go broke back to their home countries >government owned corporations spin a profit, allowing expansion and the ability to pay off initial investors and provide services to patrons/citizens >other non-government businesses open up, offering experimental medical procedures, testing, and other things on government owned property >no taxes of any kind aside from property rent, people allowed entry is capped at available rooms in apartment complexes >can have a fucking thunderdome
What kind of government should a place like this have? Also give me your thoughts and ideas about it.
good luck building an island in international waters moron those islands are close to shore which is extremely shallow compared to deep sea
Easton Smith
>>seastead an artificial island in international waters
>posts some Dubai hotel island
Idiot ancap at it again
Juan Wood
You will need a military so strong that the govt would end up answering to it.
Lucas Walker
it's a video game
Carter Richardson
Similar to libcapistan, and my ideas for an ideal nation, still, I believe that anyone should be able to try and live in the nation that best supports their ideals so I'd happily support the existence of a system like this, even if it's not perfectly to my tastes. I'll even invest in your government if I get returns on my share.
Landon Campbell
Pic is just an example of a real island project. You could make buoyant ones that are anchored to the sea floor like some kinds of oil rigs, or alternatively build on sea ridges that actually aren't that deep in the water. I personally think the oil rig style is much more viable for seasteading since the sheer amount of soil you'd need to build up is insane.
Why would it get invaded? If you're in a legitimately isolated area away from other nation's claims they shouldn't bother you. Liberland, that one country between Serbia and Croatia only existed because Croatia wanted to negotiate with Serbia about the land and it was hence strategically important. That one project called Minerva was seized because it was literally in Tonga waters not far from their other islands.
Oliver Clark
Cuck shed as a republic
Zachary Collins
Pirates would attack it
Adam Anderson
The idea initially was that the government and the founding corporation of the state would be the same entity. So that certain industries and properties would be owned by the central corporation, and the profits therein could be used to pay off investors and debtors and then begin expansion and providing services for patrons/citizens.
I know government owned corporations isn't very libertarian, but I think having some control over basic services(especially manufacturing and selling drugs) would both be highly profitable and better in government hands than private entities which might jack the prices or make an inferior product.
I figured the drug tourism angle would be the most promising, especially for the early period. The fact it isn't under any law and paying cash means precursors could probably be had for cheap and they could provide jobs for many of the first residents. There can maybe be a law declaring that no physical exports are allowed, so no drugs are allowed out or anything like that to increase international confidence that it isn't a security liability.
Elijah Johnson
I think you're a low IQ 14 year old.
Read about 100 more books, then try this thought experiment again.
Oliver Miller
That's a good angle. I imagined a small enough highly equipped gendarmie force would be all you'd need.
120x soldier/police officers would probably move around on foot and not really need any crazy equipment. Get a handful of SAM and AS missiles and that's all you really need. Probably don't even need a prison considering you can just file a public report and send people back to their home country. Saves money that way.
Joshua Cooper
I am brain
John Young
Voluntaria huh? Can I play as a halfling rogue?
Noah Price
>>constitution explicitly states "Anything you do voluntarily is legal" Edit this. The moment liberals and their pedo gay mongrels read this your island paradise is destroyed
Michael Bell
I am willing to bet and large sum of money that OP is underage. Even ignoring the glaring problems, why would an angel investor want to invest in this? You're paying potentially billions of dollars so that they can build an island, which people probably won't want to move to anyway, and even if they do the investors have to pay more to set up businesses, pay for transport food and supplies, pay for the infrastructure on the island. Once all this is payed for, they still have to deal with economic loss from not investing their money in something in the mainland. Oh, and they also have to worry about how they'll deal with crime or invasion. Not to mention how they'll get all their assets insured for things like natural disasters, which are bound to happen on a man made island. Even if all those expenses were payed for, they still don't know if their businesses will turn a profit. OP, this idea is retarded
>atrons/citizens >>other non-government businesses open up, offering experimental medical procedures, testing, and other things on government owned property
>I know government owned corporations isn't very libertarian It's the most libertarian thing possible! Who's to tell me I can't invest in a government, or move my enterprise to Voluntaria, or have it absorbed into the government if I so consent or request? >and the profits therein could be used to pay off investors and debtors >I realised you'd already answered my question here just after I posted the comment, but thanks, and sounds good! but I think having some control over basic services(especially manufacturing and selling drugs) would both be highly profitable and better in government hands than private entities which might jack the prices or make an inferior product. I think this is a good thing, I've been toying with the idea of something like this, where all citizens pay, say, $50k to the central organisation and are thus provided with land, shelter, and food as a form of dividends. With the market the way it is, $50k may no longer be self sustaining, but none the less, I very much am in favour of this way of thinking. You're thinking free-trade capitalism, I'm thinking fully automated luxury capitalism, but both administered by central organisations. (Apologies, got distracted reading Liberland's constitution)
Aaron Carter
>murder on the island now what
Gavin Mitchell
Current faggot fashion, LGBT, feminism and such things need life suport from the State because they aren't sustainable for themselves.
Wow, when can I sign up? This sounds like the best thing ever. I can't see any possible downside to having zero laws. It would certainly be worth getting murdered in order to have legal junkies.
so you believe that a country like mine,germany isnt self sufficient because we had all this except the faggot fashion (not counting nazis or stereotypical gay porn) for quite a while now?
unironically a fucking dream install a minarchist government, small police force and court system whose sole role is to protect freedoms and nothing more
Grayson Carter
>I figured the drug tourism angle would be the most promising I'd usually go for "tax haven with minimal buy-in", that turns heads, but if you had the infrastructure solid, then drugs are good. There can maybe be a law declaring that no physical exports are allowed, so no drugs are allowed out or anything like that to increase international confidence that it isn't a security liability. Just make it clear as day that any tourist found exporting things generally frowned upon, or smuggling them back into countries wherein they're prohibited, will be barred for life, lest you make enemies. Part of liberty is respecting the freedom of those who wish to live in authoritarian nations, and it's better to make friends with those authoritarians than enemies. Organise a shiploads of HK416's/UMP45's/PDW's and a couple AEGIS batteries and pirates would fuck right off. >bUt tHe ChIlD cOnSeNtS!!!!11! No. Fuck it, no-one under 18 on the island. >would an angel investor want to invest in this Easier than building my own. Which I am building the capital to do, anyway. >You're paying potentially billions of dollars so that they can build an island Nah, tens of millions at best, old aircraft carriers are cheap, and you can always just literally buy an island. That's my plan. Not volunteering to die, nigga Murderer is now food for prisoners of lesser crimes
Jordan Watson
I bet everything youll still try to spread your brain virus - since more people following 'your' ideas can only lead to your utopia
Jason Moore
>Anything you choose to do is legal What lesser crimes faggot? As it's written by OP literally everything is legal. It doesn't say anything about a victim volunteering. As long as the perpetrator chooses to do it, it's legal. You could murder, rape, molest, steal as much as you like so long as you chose to do so. This whole idea is full blown retarded.
your pic is bult by a state, its financed by the UAE also minerva reef
Michael Mitchell
so, this is a bigger version of fyre fest?
Jack Miller
>Tourist destination, just like Cuba >Government and profit That's why Anarcho-Capitalists are a fucking joke.
Christopher Watson
I like the idea.
But what would you do against a 'special forces' intervention against your 'drug cartel' supplying ''morally questionable'' and most importantly ((terrorism))
