Are bad guys good ?

Yes, they are the bad guys. Commies do this all the time as well, handing out minimal foreign aid gibs in a very public way. Ethiopia once sent aid to Mexico. Venezuela sent free fuel oil to London once, China sends masks (that they quickly buy again).

Things that never happened

Literally already have this thread right now.
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mafia make a more hones tliving than number magician kikes

they are aware that they need a better self image, doesn't make them good, makes them devious

Mafia is heavily involved in human trafficking, mostly people from Libya

Criminals dont care about their own ''people''. What sort of stupid statement was that? They ruin moral and civilised societies.

>that pic
it's preddy fucking comfy I must say, I don't even think any government official knows that I even exist

makes you feel a lot more safe

Lol the mafia runs human smuggling routes. Do you think they are some kind of civilian protection militia?

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>Mafia is heavily involved in human trafficking, mostly people from Libya
You don't get what I said; I said that they're still *ITALIAN*.

>Criminals dont care about their own ''people''. What sort of stupid statement was that? They ruin moral and civilised societies.
That's just wrong; even a criminal doesn't want to see his family dead. And that family does have some [admittedly small] connection to others of the Nation.

That's kinda the point.

>Do you think they are some kind of civilian protection militia?
No, see above.
But as to civilian militia, that is a good idea.

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Organized crime, like government, badly needs the local economy to not collapse.

You know how bad governments are at not stepping all over the economy in their region? Organized crime is *worse*, and it contributes to the bad economy in Italy. Who wants to work hard just to get shaken down?

But if things get bad enough anyone who wants to parasitize an economy has to shake some symbiosis into the system.

That new Steely Dan album cover looks rad

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>The mafia knows how to win over the local community in an insurgency war better than the United States military & state department

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>Be complete shitheads 99.99999999999% of the time
>Do something good once in a blue moon
>Normies: "OMG they were the good guys all along!!!!!!!!!"
Same thing with shitheads donating the charity. I don't care they're still evil.

This. I’m Italian American and mobsters are not good guys

They are giving money to people in exchange for favors, nothing they do is free.

Yeah they are still italian and bring illegal invaders to country for profit, in my opinion they are scum of the earth

you tell me senpai, do you still have a problem with tattoed manlets with katanas? or the yakuza is now your friend?

not when they all dress like this

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>an offer they can't refuse
Almost as if the mob stole all of the supplies to begin with. Wow!

Gucci's runway be lit!

This. Its like a casino giving a regular some free drinks that come to a tenth of a percent of what they pull from him.

Fuck these scum.

>even a criminal doesn't want his family dead
You're extremely out of touch with the real world. Criminals do nothing but cause their families misery. From parents constantly worrying, death threats, family members being extorted, used as collateral damage, etc. No criminal is moral. Whether they're in a wife beater top or a suit. They're immoral so end of.

You have a romantic image of mafia, you should know better. The mafia is just criminals and they dont care about family, they often dont have families of their own (unless multiple whores and bastards count as family) and are often not Italian. This isnt The Godfather. Mafias run drugs, illegal migrants, whores, contract murders, and work hand in hand with foreign criminals. All these black drug dealers have deals with the mafia.

Sure, they're fucking assholes that don't see much beyond their selfish desires, and yes this *DOES* cause pain and suffering for their families (unless, perchance, it's a family operation), but they generally don't want to see their family dead.

Look, I'm *NOT* saying they're great guys.
I'm saying that they are better than the powers-that-be who are actively hostile to the Citizenry.
IOW, it's not an absolute rating, it's a relative compassion.

By your logic ISIS is good because they gave candy to people living under their rule?

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>You have a romantic image of mafia, you should know better.
I do know better.
I'm just not saying what you think I am saying.

Are the mafia still even a thing?

>By your logic ISIS is good because they gave candy to people living under their rule?
Let's flip this: does ISIS objectively offer more Justice to their people than, say, the United States does their people?

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This is so gay even the girl seems homosexual in a male way

this, its all powerplay

They dont exist if they dont have clients. Its a symbiotic relationship.

Listen you dumb fuck, these people know right from wrong. If you're engaging in criminal activity then it's obvious you don't care about your family. I care about my own family so that's why I'll never get involved with criminal activity because i know the outcome.

Politicians are just puppets for democracy. Sure they do certain stupid shit but they're not as immoral as some criminals. They're not going to tie you up and kill your family right in front of you.

>You don't get what I said; I said that they're still *ITALIAN*.
No you said they have more care and concern for their own people than the government that would import so many foreign invaders.
If the mafia also imports foreign invaders, you're obviously wrong

Why doesn't Italy help the poor San Marinoans?
How heartless

Italian mob sells fake olive oil, jewish mob is still a thing and they sell human organs, if you want to sell your left kidney for $20,000 you go to Israel.

No. The Italian mafia were extremely exaggerated. Most had genuine business and crime was just part time. They wouldn't be on the crime level as Hispanics like Mexican cartels. Them guys are on a different level in terms of crime.

Same thing happened after the 2011 tsunami, the yakuza stepped in and picked up the slack when the government didn't react fast enough.

It's localism at its finest.

Just replace mafia with Jews and you have a perfect post.

This, mafia acts like the state

for better or for worse, the italian mafia is basically italy's government

Based spanish bro

>>Listen you dumb fuck, these people know right from wrong.
I'm not saying they don't.
Pull your head out of your ass and read this:
>1 Timothy 5:8
>Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
I'm saying the goddamn mafia and the goddamn government illustrate this verse, you moron.

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no but they have excellent olives and olive oil.

the best, in fact.

even in the north? i thought they were constrained to sicily

How is robbing from others providing anything? Only voluntary exchanges are moral. Not exploitation.

>fake olive oil

I can see you've never been overseas

The mafia hasn't been a thing for at least two decades now

Have Scott Glenn look into it.

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>They're just doing what the government do but illegally. Extorting money from people and looking for praise by giving some of it back.

This.

Also they act nice initially but always make it abundantly clear they have the monopoly of force that they will wield when they don't get their way.

Mafia operate at a much higher level now.
See the canadian cheese tycoon mafia.

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And is the government handing out food?
(I honestly don't know; I haven't heard anything about Italy distributing food.)

Jews would never hand anything out for free. They would charge you for the rope used at your hanging.

>0% interest loans

These days things are flipped
Mafia is good
Government is bad

>They're just doing what the government do but illegally.
This, the only difference between a government and the mob is a few pieces of paper and the recognition of other countries. Other then they that they do the exact same shit.

The USA does good to their people. By far.