Reminder that Christianity is the most mainstream and normie thing there is, with the majority of the West and the world being Christian and most areas of the West being atleast 50% to 80% Christian.
>b... but those arent serious Christians! Doesnt matter, it still makes it the most common and mainstream form of religious though you could find.
>Christianity build Europe! Yeah and the end result is mass-immigration, hedonism, vice and and a decline in vigour.
>What other alternatives do we have? Paganism, Occultism, Humanism, Buddhism, whatever is not normie level!
Question, which sides lookes more like the world of the Old or New Testament, the world on the left or the world on the right?
Austin Sanders
>It's mainstream so you have to hate it! underage B& detected.
Hunter Smith
>>It's mainstream so you have to hate it! Well, yes, I mean its literally the religion of the rabble and the common people, why would a freethinker embrace it?
This also applies to atheism, btw.
Logan Carter
A free thinker would consider it themselves and make a decision regardless of if others are going it or not.
To simply align yourself against whatever you consider to be popular does not make you enlightened compared to them, it just makes you the negative image of them.
Nolan Harris
Stop blaming Christianity for what LIBERAL JEWISH DEMOCRATIC ATHEISM has done.
Brayden Rivera
>A free thinker would consider it themselves and make a decision regardless of if others are going it or not.
Let me get this straight, you think, a free thinker is someone who joins a completely, mainstream, dogmatic cult, full of low IQ people?
That makes sense to you?
>To simply align yourself against whatever you consider to be popular does not make you enlightened compared to them, it just makes you the negative image of them.
That would be true, if I had no believes of my own, which I do, I refuse to tell you what they are, but I do have them.
Wyatt Miller
>Stop blaming Christianity for what LIBERAL JEWISH DEMOCRATIC ATHEISM has done. Most Liberal in an American or European sense are Christians, Jews are supported by Christians, most Democrats are Christians, even most Atheists come from a Christian background.
Hmmmm. they all have something to do with Christianity.
Alexander Collins
It's the Liberal Democratic Atheist Jews.
Isaac Barnes
No a free thinker is someone who thinks for themselves. Such as someone who might look at Christianity and then decide that it's for them (or not).
> I refuse to tell you what they are, but I do have them. pffffffffft.
Henry Gonzalez
And who controls them? None other than the Jews. Christians may be in charge, but it's the Jews pulling the strings. Most Atheist come from Jewish homes.
Hunter Moore
>It's the Liberal Democratic Atheist Jews. Some of those concepts literally contradict each other like atheist and jew, democratic and liberal.
All those concepts are inherenly supported by Christians.
>No a free thinker is someone who thinks for themselves So, you are saying, when I think for myself to joing a popular, mainstream, dogmatic cult full of stupid people, I am somehow still a freethinker, because I choose to stop thinking?
Leo Lopez
>73% of Britain is Christian Sure
I know nobody who goes to church. Both my parents have never gone to church bar from weddings and funerals, I don't even think my grandparents are religious and one of them came from a rural Gaelic speaking part of Ireland
Bentley Hernandez
>And who controls them? Christians do, most leaders are Christians, they own most of the power and most of the population is Christian. Jews are the tools of Christians to revert away blame.
Zachary Rivera
I have a question, do I have to go to a regular meeting to be an atheist, agnostic, socialist, liberal etc,?
No, because the worldview still influences my voting pattern and believes.
No stupid it's the Jews. Sage for this is a slide thread and Jewish D&C tactics.
Brayden Garcia
>Those aren't religions you mong Oh right, so something magical changes when something is a religion, tell me what is that exactly?
Jose Nelson
>Whats the other alternative >Dude satanism!
Jaxon Taylor
Again nice d&c tatics Mr Rabbi.
Brayden Jackson
You cant not be a freethinker and join something which isnt about freethinker, thats silly.
I am not a member of a dogmatic cultic society, just a dick on the internet, but if I did join such a group I would be a cultist.
>No stupid it's the Jews. It literally is the Christians.
Jews are tools the Christian use to divert away blame. If people knew what Christians are planning, there would be a revolt.
Elijah Walker
>>Dude satanism! No, thats Christianity.
>Again nice d&c tatics Mr Rabbi. Jews are tools of the Christians.
Jaxson Nelson
That is the result of Liberalism, Democracy, Atheism, and Zionism not Christianity.
Eli Russell
>Protestants >Christian Lmao
Leo Collins
How closed minded of you.
Easton Harris
If Jews are tools of Christianity then Israel wouldn't have control of the West.
Charles Harris
Most Liberals are Christians, most Democrats are Christian, most Atheists have a Christian background, Zionism, yeah Judaism isnt related to christianity at all.
>How closed minded of you. Good!
Evan Hernandez
Read
Evan Garcia
>If Jews are tools of Christianity then Israel wouldn't have control of the West. It doesnt, its an imperialist tool of Christian America, thats why they send them money.
Julian Hernandez
Are you sure you're not working for Israel?
Noah Cox
Shoes size IQ ITT. >most mainstream and normie thing >Doesnt matter >end result is mass-immigration, hedonism, vice and and a decline in vigour. >Paganism, Occultism, Humanism, Buddhism, whatever is not normie level Ahahaha ahahahahhaaa ahahahahhaaa ahahahahhaaa I think you are even serious here, because a normal gifted individual that was in the mood to troll would not have picked such """arguments""" to bait people. It's really you and your shoes size IQ here. Wonderful. My day is done.
>Are you sure you're not working for Israel? Nope, Israel works for Christianity.
Adam Gutierrez
I am not trolling, I am possing a question.
Daniel Hall
If Israel is a puppet of America then why is it a ethnostate?
David Roberts
>If Israel is a puppet of America then why is it a ethnostate? Because it suits Americas purpose to divide the middle east like that, if the muslims attack the Jews, America can more easily manouvre in the middle east.
Carter Gutierrez
The majority of Christians are just cultural. Only like 30% of Americans attend services weekly. Which means the majority of larping faggots on here are among the 70% that stay home and at best observe Christmas and Easter.
Noah Reed
>I am not trolling, I am possing a question. I guessed it, yep. But, I'm sure other polacks will discuss your questions with the usual care. Best regards.
Yeah right if that's the case then explain why 2% of America controls 50% of the wealth?
Ethan Clark
>>What other alternatives do we have? >Paganism, Occultism, Humanism, Buddhism, whatever is not normie level! Bro I'm a Nazi because I think it's the best and most logical ideology, you need unity and racial pride to advance and get along. Anyone who chooses an ideology because it isn't mainstream is either a teenager or a manchild.
Aaron King
>But, I'm sure other polacks will discuss your questions with the usual care. They always do.
>Yeah right if that's the case then explain why 2% of America controls 50% of the wealth? They dont, ultimately its the government that decides the faith of the rich, those Jews are only allowed to exist, because they make a good scapegoat and are a source to blackmail.
The moment peoples anger against Christianity rises, they will say, look its mostly jews, kill the jews and not us Christians.
Colton Turner
>Christians may be in charge, but it's the Jews pulling the strings. Check the double-think in this statement.
Here we see what the real appeal of the "JQ" is for the posters on this board. All of them hate the modern world, but they also don't want to jettison the Classical LIberal/Christian morals that created it. This type of person is a social conservative at heart, and wants to preserve traditions, no matter what those traditions are. The unresolved tension, though, is that all those traditional Western/Enlightenment values are what led to the modern world. The train is still on the tracks.
Stuck in the weird position of wanting to defend traditional ideals that run counter to the instinctual moralities of a social conservative, the so-called "Jewish Question" offers a seductive way out. The conspiracy, you see, allows the Yas Forums poster to think that the traditional American values he supports aren't wrong, they've just been subverted. If he can blame Jews for somehow underhandedly poisoning those values, he indirectly saves those values from blame for modernity, and can permit himself to continue holding them AND continue hating the modern world at the same time. If it's all the Jews' fault, then it's not the fault of the neoliberal Christians and secular humanists who make up the bulk of mainstream thought in the West, nor the fault of the fundamental values they share with the Yas Forums poster.
But ultimately this temptation must be resisted. The Yas Forums poster, the traditionalist, the revolutionary, cannot be allowed to hide from this one last revelation; it's the policies that social conservatives support, not the ones they oppose, that have led to decay and ruin. Nothing has been subverted at all, the neoliberal Christian mindset was just held to its stated beliefs, and this is the result. Without a change in fundamental values, there will be no change at all...no matter what is done to Jews.
>Anyone who chooses an ideology because it isn't mainstream is either a teenager or a manchild. I already debunked that, if its mainstream, it is automatically stupid, because then it is shaped and formed by stupid people.
Christopher Reed
Well said, much better then I would have said it.
Brandon Evans
Then explain to me why America is controlled by ZOG?
Logan Collins
>Then explain to me why America is controlled by ZOG? There is no zog, its just a fantasy concept that was invented, the Christian Democrats on the other hand are really controlling large parts of Europe.
Levi Brooks
Then what are you trying to argue? Obviously if any of the religions you suggested become mainstream, it becomes stupid. You shouldn't argue for anything if you wanna stay in your 200 IQ Satanist secret group or whatever you believe in
William Cook
>Obviously if any of the religions you suggested become mainstream, it becomes stupid. Yes, this literally, or there is a strong divide between the elect and the masses.
>You shouldn't argue for anything if you wanna stay in your 200 IQ Satanist secret group or whatever you believe in I might arque that my elite secret group should control the world like dogs?
Josiah Miller
Hurrdurr mainstream, dat map is so dumb and probably based on whos baptized 80-90% in sweden, no we are more communist atheists than ever before, hell there is even more dogmatic muslims than dogmatic christians here. The only people who go to church is 70+ old people
Xavier Morales
>no we are more communist atheists than ever before, In the real world communism has all but disappeared from Western society compared to the previous 150 years and most people who are not Christians dont automatically become atheists, they still belief there is something higher.
Zachary Robinson
You think people will automatically become smarter because they believe in unknown things? So if 1% of each of the entire population were Satanist, Reptiliam Freemasons, Doomsday Cult preachers, Scientiologists, etc, so that 100 parts of the population all have different beliefs, you're saying that will be better?
I don't think I need to name the examples of division and lack of unity creating violence and conflict in history. The most recent example is Yugoslavia. There is nothing worse for a country than lack of common ideas and goals.
Btw, if you're trying to argue for people to think for themselves, you're just doing exactly what everyone else is doing. Trying to convince people that your way of thinking is right. It ruins the entire purpose.
Colton Kelly
So, you are a tranny,? Disgusting. Please be a jew pls be a jew pls be a jew too.
Charles Green
>You think people will automatically become smarter because they believe in unknown things? No.
>So if 1% of each of the entire population were Satanist, Reptiliam Freemasons, Doomsday Cult preachers, Scientiologists, etc, so that 100 parts of the population all have different beliefs, you're saying that will be better? No.
>I don't think I need to name the examples of division and lack of unity creating violence and conflict in history. Thats only bad when you want a dictatorship, a free society requires a certain amount of internal conflict.
>Btw, if you're trying to argue for people to think for themselves, you're just doing exactly what everyone else is doing. Trying to convince people that your way of thinking is right. It ruins the entire purpose. You are either a freethinker or you are not, I cant do much about that, but I can make people conflicted.
Thats my goals, to make people conflicted about choosing Christianity.
Jeremiah Howard
>So, you are a tranny,? Disgusting. Please be a jew pls be a jew pls be a jew too. I am the hight of masculinity, tall, mucular, and hairy, my nose is not hooked, but flat, because of boxing.
Ian Gutierrez
Its true that we are not in the state of the previous communist regime yet. But its surely creeping closer, atleast in sweden. Our jewish overlords love to experiment with us as we are the most passive apathic fuckers on this earth. They can try anything they want here.
Justin Lee
Ah the short skinny turkleri roach. Yeah well fuck you faggot, you're a pancake.
Thomas Gray
Most communist states have collapsed, the communist movement in the West has all but disapparead, Marxism is no longer being tought in most universities.
You confuse corporatism for communism, communism is extinct.
>Ah the short skinny turkleri roach. Yeah well fuck you faggot, you're a pancake. You'd love that wouldnt you, turks are failed greeks and muslims are failed christians or jews.
Dylan Moore
Fair enough. I believe that average person is indeed pretty stupid, but I just don't think that's ever going to change. When I reason I think about what would be the best and most functional society/government to advance technologically and socially, and so far Fascism/Nazism is the one that I think would work the best. People need direction and strong leaders to guide them and tell what is what, and maintain unity with a strong grip.
Any kind of leftism can never work because of that. Too extreme liberalism (in the original sense), as in freedom, can also be a problem. Too many freethinkers and independents can create many issues and not feel a part of society, which can then lead to conflict.
Bentley Wood
The problem I have with dictators is that he could be an Augustus or a Marcus Aurelius, he could also be a Nero or a Heliogabalus. So a republic would be better.