Political Implications of recovering lost 1990's culture in American society

How could the music change so completely in such a short time? Surely not by accident.

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The world before 9/11...you weren't there to see it.
>inb4 clueless zoomer faggot asking for evidence

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The question is:

Was 1990's music a tavistock project like the Beatles? It does not appear to be so, but rather like the music business let real artists sneak through for about seven years before shutting it down.

It changed before 9/11. Limp Bizkit and Eminem and Marilyn Manson, all promoting degeneracy, happened in 1998/1999.

This was on the radio and the biggest selling album in 1994. Can you even imagine now?

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Grunge was definitely a weaponization. Even some of the pop music took on a more depressing sound that defined Gen X. We know they had a few failed attempts at creating the post 9/11 world earlier with the first WTC bombing, Assault weapons ban, and other draconian measures during the Clinton era. Thank God they didn't get away with it before internet existed and people could question it at least.

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There was optimism, endless possibility and most importantly a sense of independence and freedom
The corporatization of the music industry stole the soul of the art. Labels paying radio stations to loop algorithmic pop songs being written by a small handful of producers (Max Martin et. al.) crushed independent artists and gave us the homogenized garbage that passes for popular music today.
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The music is mostly positive, though.

sad music is healthy and it teaches people how to manage stress, so they don't go on pills and shit. not what the jews would want to promote.

There was sanity, not clown world

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This was a #1 song in 1995

youtube.com/watch?v=o0qyP1bA-ME

Another example:

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And anything produced by Frank Farian in the 70's and 90's wasn't commercialized garbage?

Or Elvis being given songs to sing that were written by other people wasn't commercialized garbage?

Get out with your "the past century was when things were greener."

If anything, there is more choice now with bieng able to choose what you want on Spotify or discover new artist in the underground scene literally on any music forum.

Music has always been commercialized; don't get mad that vices sell, blame the consumer for eating it up.

No tats, no naked girls

This isn't about commercialized. It's about what messages were allowed to reach the population through mass media. There is a distinct difference with the 1991-1997 period that appears to be an anomaly where sincere, American music was actually popular.

So if i get this correct this thread is about how current music is degenerate and the 90s was the last bastion of good music?

While i agree somewhat with the second part, there's always been degeneracy in music, I personally have heard songs about drinking and fucking from the 1920s.

The 70s is heralded as the peak of great music but was one of the most degenerate time periods with I'd guess 75% of the popular music being about drugs.

All that happened was the jews got wise and realized that they didn't need 19 good wholesome songs and 1 degenerate anthem they could just make 20 degenerate anthems and make more money, and make no mistake it comes down to money.

If christian rock somehow made more money than rap that's all you would hear but that's not the case.

For contrast, this is what was being pushed on jewish media by 2000 - tats, drugs, and thottery:

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>it comes down to money.
happy passover.

That was the worst shit

At least they didn't delete the old one.

it's horrible. notice the nigger drummer, like this is a real band and there's a person playing drums, lol.

the 90s were better

I'm Greek Orthodox.

small victory, kek

Here's what was on movie soundtracks in the mid-1990's.

youtube.com/watch?v=hsUr1F36s68

>and thottery
What does it matter when casual sex has been an accepted part of youth life since the 80s? There's no propagandizing for it when everyone already does it---then, it's just a reflecting.

Madonna's extremely degenerate songs were very popular even in the 80's

It's been always a shitty helhole user. Since the dawn of times bards and cave paintings promoting degenerate stuff.

shut up, the sexual revolution happened in 1967 and by the 1980's it was winding down because of AIDS and shit. being slutty was not promoted at all in this period.

The biggest record of the year, Green Day, was wholesome, apolitical, and without blatant occult symbolism in 1993: youtube.com/watch?v=i8dh9gDzmz8

Yes and even in the 90’s, but look at all the most popular songs in this thread. Very different.

ITT: zoomer faggots larp as early millenials and claim how things were degenerate after the 60's such as boomers do.
>inb4 the 1920's were very degenerate with the swing pachuco culture

>Since the dawn of times bards and cave paintings promoting degenerate stuff.
OK, so why then was this not the case mostly from around 1991 until around 1997? I've posted plenty of examples.

damn i love gin blossoms

>being slutty
According to you, casual sex is only bad when it's flaunted. That's some messed up logic and pretty hypocritical for someone who considers themselves anti-degeneracy.

In reality, this thread is late gen-xers trying to show zoomers what a non-shitty mass culture looks like to both encourage them to learn about and also show them it's possible and something to work from.

Also, we want to know why the jews let this slip through for a few years?

Such a comfy band.

I was a teenager in the 90’s and he’s right. Girls were still called sluts by other girls and no one thought it was cool to be a skanky whore. Everyone wanted to be in love with a girlfriend or boyfriend.

I like how schizos are too stupid to include the fact that the founding fathers of the UN like Jan Smuts wanted a global government and wrote the UN charter to that effect and that Smuts had been the friend/boytoy of homosexual 19th century British millionaire and supervillain Cecil Rhodes who deliberately provoked the Second Boer War in order to gain land which he deemed strategically vital to his longterm plan of British dominance in Africa which would enable the British empire to take over the world.

And this is all shit you can read if you just google the names I just dropped.

Oh and let's not forget the Rhodes Scholarship Bill Clinton got was created by Rhodes to find promising American talent to integrate into his plot to subvert and take over the USA for the purpose of conquering the world for Britain using American manpower.

Here is the biggest smash hit of 1994, this shit was everywhere.

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It is not degenerate at all.

After WWII the racy bars and pinup stuff and back alley theaters that had been a part of gangster/low class youth culture started going mainstream at a slow but noticeable rate. You go from Elvis gyrating his hips at teenage girls in the 1950s to niggers in the 1990s singing about slinging crack and fucking white bitches. It's one long string of degeneration, pushing the morals of terrible pop culture into the suburbs and onto the middle class. Make the people so debased that they're actually proud of it since they don't know anything else or see moral goodness as a threat to their personal pride (EWW YOU DON'T FAP? etc.).

youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM (1990)

youtube.com/watch?v=kO6BtpIzIiM (1991)

youtube.com/watch?v=IjTXaSRq3hA (1991)

youtube.com/watch?v=X53ZSxkQ3Ho (1992)

youtube.com/watch?v=PTFwQP86BRs (1994)

youtube.com/watch?v=NPcyTyilmYY (1995)

I was there and I remember. Even in comparison all of those examples are mild compared to what is on all of the time now. There are also morals in those songs by Naughty by Nature, if you actually listen to them. Songs about doing bad things and then consequences coming - that is healthy even if it's degenerate.

That said, what I'm posting was ALSO present, but seems to have been erased from the collective memory. That is the point of this thread - what was going on in the 1990's where a ton of actually American culture was getting mass media play but seemingly not pushing any of the agendas we know the jews push through music since at least 1960.

>Everyone wanted to be in love with a girlfriend or boyfriend.
And how many of them upheld no sex before marriage?

There was a whole lot of people doing the chastity ring thing! You are being extremist and intentionally obtuse at best. Purity spiraling is for faggots.

Dude teen pregnancies hit their all time high in 1991, (almost) nobody was celibate.

That was considered extremely dorky by anyone who wasn't a born-again christian. NO ONE WAS TRYING TO FUCK FIFTY DUDES A YEAR THOUGH.

It's not about numbers, it's about intention. People pursued relationships for natural, healthy reasons related to bonding with another person. Only people with serious deficiencies thought fucking random people regularly was a good idea, and they were not role models just curiosities. What was NORMAL was very different than what is promoted as normal today, even though what people want is the same because people don't change.

What benefit to the Tavistock jews was it to let this happen? Was it a mistake? I think it may have been.

If you can’t understand the point of the thread KYS for having too low an IQ to live.

Just you

Out of all bands, why the FUCK would you choose to rip off WEEZER?

They even made the lead singer look the guy.

kek

It's because Manson is kind of a dick and lost all of his creative band members. Daisy Berkowitz and Gidget Gein. Zim Zum. Portrait was the last great album, I liked Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals but I haven't liked anything since then. It wasn't jews, Manson himself just has an ego and didn't want to share the credit.

I don't understand the point of the thread because you two have been proven wrong many times, there's always been degenerate music and degenerate art in general and people have always fucked each other CONSIDERING PROSTITUTION HAS EXISTED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND BUT SOMEHOW NINETIES DEGENERACY IS DIFFERENT FROM TODAY'S DEGENERACY AND YOU TWO AREN'T MAKING ANY GODDAMN SENSE JUST RAMBLING ABOUT THE JEWS AND THE GODDAMN NEIGHBOR'S DOG WON'T STOP BARKING AND I'VE BEEN STUCK IN THIS HOUSE FOR 3 WEEKS AND NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE ESPECIALLY YOUR GODDAMN POINT

...you started this thread with a song that's explicitly about satirizing the morals and values of the 50's and 60's.

interesting, good eye! they were pushing Weezer really hard when they first came out in 1994/1995. Then Weezer was completely forgotten for years until 2001 when their big comeback was promoted. That makes me think weezer was very much something the jews wanted to promote. They were never as popular in the 1990's as they are now - for most people there were a one hit wonder with a fun pop song.

You have serious issues, fag

the fuck are you talking about, the Blue Album was fucking huge. There were three massive singles off it that are still played regularly on alternative radio to this day. Pinkerton underperformed commercially but has a legendary cult status. When they finally came out with the Green Album there was tremendous hype. They were one of the biggest bands of the 90s.

You are almost figuring it out - good job. Even with skepticism toward earlier eras and the normal rebellion against previous generations, they are mostly critiquing degenerate behavior and pointing out that what the "manual" from the 1950's taught is not reflective of what they see around them.

they sucked