ISIS on women

Thoughts?

>"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine," the manifesto says. "Most pure girls will be married by sixteen or seventeen, while they are still young and active."

>The [manifesto] extols the virtues of motherhood and promulgates the idea that the best place for a woman is in the house, living a life of "sedentariness" and fulfilling her "divine duty of motherhood." It portrays Western civilization as a godless, materialistic society that has caused women to depart from their God-given roles as wives and mothers.

>It doesn’t put women on "equal" footing with men because the two sexes have distinctly different roles under Islam: "Women gain nothing from the idea of their equality with men apart from thorns," the manifesto states. "Under 'equality' they have to work and rest on the same days as men even though they have ‘monthly complications’ and pregnancies and so on, in spite of the nature of her life and responsibilities to their husband, sons and religion."

>It also envisions an education system in which girls complete their formal schooling by age 15.

>"Because of this, a woman studies these worthless worldly sciences[... but] there is with no need for her to flit here and there to get degrees and so on, just so she can try to prove that her intelligence is greater than a man’s."

>Ultimately, "It is always preferable for a woman to remain hidden and veiled, to maintain society from behind this veil," the document states. "This, which is always the most difficult role, is akin to that of a director, the most important person in a media production, who is behind the scenes organising."

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WTF I love isis now

but some woman have to wear underwear with dick holes in them

nah this is too extreme 9 is pedo shit. i think we should enforce some of these ideas through culture not force

IIRAW

(Islam Is Right About Women)

>culture not force
Culture not enforced is determined by the cultural media, which is owned by a select few today. It's not like the past when cultural memes mainly were determined and propagated by the community

I hate women so much it is unreal.

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>"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine," the manifesto says. "Most pure girls will be married by sixteen or seventeen, while they are still young and active."
Who knew ISIS were libertarians?

God willing, Islam will conquer the West

Wtf I agree with ISIS now, but unironically

>"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine
based and weebpilled

Shari'a is unironically very libertarian. Spying, including wiretapping even with a warrant, is haram. Regulating guns is haram. Taxing over 2.5% flat tax on capital is haram (jizya, the poll tax for infidels--which doesn't apply to women, elderly, poor, monks, children or priests--means they don't have to pay this). Most economical regulation is haram including red tape like building codes. The only regulations are things like no prostitution, no interest, no hoarding, no false advertising (even selling unripe fruit is criminal), no speculation... basically just forms of cheating and theft.

this is our part of tolerance and diversity :)
who is the racist now

Yea but that shit is like communism, it has never been implemented perfectly because it is conveniently considered a 'guideline' and not a single country that is successful ever came from following those rules.

The legitimacy of a system lies in its implementation and subsequent successes, which is highly lacking in the islamic world, thus it is ultimately a worthless argument to make.

That's not really true, it's been implemented many times throughout history and is today in areas under Islamist control like the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Puppet regimes or secularist militaries set up over Balkanized territories don't do a good job with it (if they did they would not have been given power by colonialists), which is why insurgents fight them

Based

First one is disgusting and why people want to kill ragheads. With that being said, the rest is great stuff, except the veil thing, don't see the necessity there

(((memeflag)))

>it's been implemented many times throughout history and is today in areas under Islamist control
Read what I said again, it is not implemented perfectly. Islamists REGULARLY break their own rules, historically this was true as they kept increasing the Zakat and Jizya on the populations due to literal warlords being in control for waning war efforts. Emirate of Afghanistan was a proxy government controlled by the ISI pakis, the Taliban were literally educated and trained by paki madrassas and sent out to conquer Afghanistan because ISI feared the Northern Alliance was growing too close the india. The Afghans also set about imposing certain oppressive rules on the minority religious communities in Afghanistan and ethnically cleanse them, this was all under 'Sharia'

Stop trying to be so facetious, Sharia is simply a guideline which is a precursor excuse to oppress minorities/non-muslims and legalize rape nothing more. Its desert rules which is and never will be compatible in this modern world.

Islamists are just under-educated morons who cannot run a water pump let alone a country properly, their entire view of an economy is based on raiding and pillaging like they are sand-nigger vikings with no boats, it is romanticized in their propaganda and is utterly unfeasible.

Still waiting on a modern example of Sharia which has produced an advanced and economically independent state.

Child marriage is the final red pill leaf

Absolutely Based

Westerners: "Yes, it's perfectly normal for a girl to be sexually active at fourteen. No you want to marry sometime after that, not before."

The veil thing is from the Qur'an. Islamically women and men are supposed to be separated and even invisible to each other as much as possible except family and spouse

Do you know who Mullah Muhammad Omar is?

From his letter to America (can be found in "Messages to the World"

>The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

>We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and trading with interest.

>You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense

>You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom.

>You are a nation that permits gambling in its all forms. The companies practice this as well, resulting in the investments becoming active and the criminals becoming rich.

>You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.

>You have destroyed nature with your industrial waste and gases more than any other nation in history. Despite this, you refuse to sign the Kyoto agreement so that you can secure the profit of your greedy companies and industries.

Will post more from his writings

Islamic discord
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Ugly wide nose nigger with a monkey religion. No thanks.

Quote by Anwar al-Awlaki. Droned for al-Qaeda affiliation, he was also ridiculously slandered by the FBI who said he solicited prostitutes and was arrested multiple times for it while an imam in San Diego (strange no news organization reported it until years later, considering his mosque was major and he was a national figure). Obviously this character assassination was to discourage Muslims from following him. But I digress. The above quote is from an English khutbah (sermon) by him, the first in a series on the Life of Muhammad, salla Allahu alayhe wassallam. It's available to listen to here

kalamullah.com/anwar-alawlaki.html

(excerpt is from 27:25)

>Brothers and sisters, there is a global culture that is being forced down the throats of everyone on the face of the earth. This global culture is protected and promoted. Thomas Friedman--he is a famous writer in the U.S., he writes for the New York Times--he says, "The hidden hand of the market cannot survive without a hidden fist. McDonald's will never flourish without McDonnell Douglas." The designer of the F-15's. In other words, we're not really dealing with a global culture that is benign or compassionate. This is a culture that gives you no choice. You either accept McDonald's, otherwise McDonnell Douglas will send the F-15's above your head. It's a very intolerant culture that cannot coexist with anything else, it uproots every other culture on the face of the earth, it just cuts the roots of it. And you have here a quote here by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, he's a famous Russian historian-writer, he says, "To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." So it's really a destruction of the people of the earth, because every other culture is being demolished. So this is not a global culture that will coexist with others, it will replace others. And the only ideology that is standing up to this global culture is Islam.

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Bin Laden on the Iraq War

>America insisted on attacking entire peoples, including their children, their women, and their elderly. It is now clear that it is Israel that is behind all the attacks on states in the Islamic world. However, for fear that great popular movements will rise up and topple them, these collaborator regimes [he singles out Saud especially] have conspired to save their own skin, regardless of their duties to Islam and Muslims. The feelings of these people were desensitized as much as America wanted, so the Jews were able to employ American and British Christians to do the job of attacking Iraq. America claims that it is bringing Iraq to account and to justice, but the fact is that the Israeli authority and the Jewish authority, which has become powerful inside the White House, as everyone can see—the Defence Minister is Jewish, the Secretary of State is Jewish, the CIA and National Security officials are Jewish, all the biggest officials are Jews—led the Christians to clip the wings of the Islamic world. Their real target is not Saddam Hussein but the growing power of the Arab and Islamic world, even if they struck the Iraqi people or—as they previously alleged in the sanctions against Libya—because they had a chemical weapons factory, or when they bombed the al-Shifa factory in Sudan, which was a pharmaceutical factory.

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I'm a white convert

His interview in 1997 after condemning the House of Saud as degenerate and leaving the country

>PA: Your family is a rich powerful family in Saudi Arabia. Have they, or the Saudi Arabian government, asked you to stop your activities?

>OBL: They have done that a lot. They have pressured us greatly, especially since a lot of our money is still in the hands of the Saudi ruling family due to the activities of our family and company. They sent my mother, my uncle, and my brothers on almost nine visits to me in Khartoum, asking me to stop and return to Arabia to apologize to King Fahd. I apologized to my family kindly because I know that they were driven by force to come to talk to me. This regime wants to create a problem between me and my family in order to take some measures against them. But, with God's grace, this regime did not get its wish fulfilled. I refused to go back. They [my family] conveyed the Saudi government's message that if I did not go back, they'll freeze all my assets, deprive me of my citizenship, my passport, and my Saudi ID, and distort my picture in the Saudi and foreign media. They think that a Muslim may bargain on his religion. I said to them: do whatever you may wish. It is with God's bounty that we refused to go back. We are living in dignity and honor for which we thank God. It is much better for us to live under a tree here on these mountains than to live in palaces in the land most sacred to God, subjected to the disgrace of not worshipping God even in the most sacred land on earth, where injustice is so widespread. There is no strength except with God

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Interviewer
>Some Arab states were most strong in their criticism, like for example the latest speech of the Saudi Interior Minister, who warned against you personally, and warned against the following of your curriculum [nahjikum] and what you say. So do you have a specific strategy for Arab nations? And what is your answer about the latest declaration by the Saudi Interior Minister?

[...]

Bin Laden
>I say to those people who walk behind those rulers, don’t they have hearts? Don’t they have faith [imaan]? How can they declare faith [imaan] while they are helping those fornicating disbelievers [al-kafara al-fajara, fajar is the root of a 4-letter English word that starts with F] against the children of Islam? They help them against our children in Iraq and Palestine.

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Qutb

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Yes the one eyed sheikh, I know how austere he was and religiously motivated in setting an example of material poverty for spiritual superiority, still doesn't make him a competent leader, especially since he claimed to be wearing the cloak of muhammad and all that nonsense, most of his stories and accounts are embellished mate, I dont believe much of what is written about him.

Maududi

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Whether you do or not, he definitely enforced Shari'a. You should also read My Life With the Taliban.

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>ISIS execution videos feature nothing but men being gruesomely murdered again and again and again
>but lemme point out how women are the real victims, just like they always are
I just hate women and especially every mewling whiteknight piece of shit that defends them more and more with each passing day.

Checked
Most execution vids were of journalists and shit
Based if you ask me

Read it, its utter nonsense purely because Zaeef a Pashtun himself is just sticking by the codes of Pashtunwali hashob, there is nothing in it that has made me 'rethink' anything about the Taliban as a movement, it was generated and engendered by paki ISI to not be isolated by Indian hegemony, ebcause the first thing the Taliban did in power was to close all the Libraries and movies ban music, shows, plays and stages, since all of this was dominated by cultural soft power imported from India.

They then broke away publicly toward the end of the 90's but still retained extensive links to Pakistan secretly, thus the huge amount of support gained by them during the misguided invasion of Afghanistan by the clapistanis

We know you do you Pakistani cocksucker. You probably live in Windsor or Toronto.

Can someone link me to those HD Isis propaganda and execution videos? those were hollyjew quality.

Islam generally forbids deliberately killing women in war time

Music and most film is haram in their fiqh. You're parroting memes. If you read the book you would know the author was turned in by Pakistan to America

Extremely based.

This.

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>no building codes
>get crushed to death by crane while on Kabaa
Top kek

Nice and they have nice nasheed but they want to kill everyone that isn't them. If they tried to unit muslims without genocide of their conquered wouldn't be as bad.

>You're parroting memes
Which meme is that?
>Music and most film is haram in their fiqh.
As usual the fiqh is only followed for convenience, the taliban was engendered to destroy such things because the mullahs in Pakistan ordered it so through their ISI proxy.
>If you read the book you would know the author was turned in by Pakistan to America
So? Pakistanis are willing to sell anyone out as long as they get some money for it. It was a known fact that the pakis would regularly label political dissdents as jihadis and hand them over the Amerifats who didnt know any better for cash rewards.

Construction accidents happen everywhere

>Yas Forums wants Trump to kill all pedos in their undergound dungeons
>also celebrates Islam's pro-pedo agenda
Are you guys literally retarded or something?

They don't genocide people of the book

>[SALEEL AL SWARAWIMS IN THE DISTANCE]

Go be German somewhere else, like a ditch

>As usual the fiqh is only followed for convenience, the taliban was engendered to destroy such things because the mullahs in Pakistan ordered it so through their ISI proxy.

Proof?

>Construction accidents happen everywhere
It can be mitigated through standardized rules and regulations mate.

Thats like saying everyone who believes in God should be able to pray anyway they like, essentially negating any need for islam as its just a political weapon used by those in the mosques and in power to retain their relevance. You are forced to follow the rules and regulations set out because some fool 1400 years ago decided was the best way to live.

>It can be mitigated through standardized rules and regulations mate
Those rules are up the companies who must pay blood money for any deaths they cause through negligence, about $10,000,000 a death in these cases paid to the families

Why do they care? I thought leftists love Islam?

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theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jul/26/wikileaks-isi-taliban-nexus
hrw.org/report/2005/07/06/blood-stained-hands/past-atrocities-kabul-and-afghanistans-legacy-impunity
hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm
jstor.org/stable/3993543?seq=1

I am still waiting on proof from your end for my earlier questions.

>As American women, many of us have an idea of what feminists are; freelancing women with all the sexual freedom in the world. But this is exactly the problem with American feminism; it is all about sex and the liberation of our bodies.

>Hip Feminist campaigns like Free the Nipple only encourage a gullible behavior of disrespect for our own bodies, leading to everyone else around us disrespecting our bodies as well. If we want to be respected as women and taken seriously in all our endeavors we should look to a new source; Muslim women. Muslim women, as well as Muslim men, see every body as a sacred temple, especially the female body. Opposed to exposing themselves, it is through modesty. When we think of modern feminists we should stray away from the new American trends and start looking to what we have always thought as a contradiction; Muslim feminists.

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Those rules and regulations are to mitigate the issue from occurring in the first place, like keeping a certain amount of the area clear, making sure that the crane is reinforced as to not fall, you know, things that you are liable for, not just cash payouts to survivors.

I know you dont understand since you value human life so low, but prevention is better than the cure, think on it.

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I saw zero results for music in the first link.

Only question you said was where was Shari'a enforced. I gave you an example, and you said, "That's only because ISI told them to have Shari'a!"

They do to us shia though even though we're better than people of book. We believe in God only and his Prophet pbuh. While christians worship jesus. Also their concept of shirk(polytheism) is fucked and they have many kinds of it. Also they're killing other groups of sunnis and fighting over who will rule in syria and they haveing suspicious way of getting fighters by westerners letting them to pass into syria from all overworld other than huge funding war and weapons they got. Maybe of their fighters are people who believe in islam but they got used as destabilization tool and destroyed when done with them. Lots of killings and murder over violent videos for show will cause bad reaction from muslims and turn them into heretics like many in arab world I think which is part of plan on war on islam. They sent most sunni fighters and young ones to die now atheists roaming free to fuck everything. Sunni stupidty did more damage to islam than good imo not saying they should tolerate atheists and secularists scum. I think many shia fucked up too badly. Muh country for everyone where atheists can elected is retarded as fuck also they come in different names like moderate muslims and work to undermine the place.

We've come full circle.

Those rules and regulations are constantly revised and extended beyond all meaning and used to corrupt ends lije making licensing and zoning all but impossible for most. I don't believe in standardizing them

Both his and your solution is preventative. Yours through codes and regulations and his through the threat of paying blood money through the nose for an accidents.
If you're on the hook to pay for deficiency then you'll ensure there's not a deficiency.

ISIS turned on Shia in Iraq because they collaborated with the American invasion. In Syria they collaborated with the Russians and Alawites. It's that simple

Read all the links. ISI's relation to Taliban is established in the first one, the atrocious behaviour in the second, who engendered it on the third and the fourth give a comprehensive look at who was involved.

>Shari'a enforced
Read the query again
>Still waiting on a modern example of Sharia which has produced an advanced and economically independent state.

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You can say all that about Islam, thus the Hadiths.

So just stop equivocating and just be honest mate.

I don't doubt ISI supported the Taliban. Your assertion was they issued the fatwas

>advanced and economically independent
There is a war between us and the global system which established every puppet regime and secular military over us. Those who establish Shari'a are hit with extreme sanctions or outright constant bombing or imposed famine. We will prevail of course, but your question I in bad faith. Also the standard of living you ultimately want is unsustainable