I am mentally ill, everyday I feel more and more anxiety and depression/derealization. I constantly think about dying...

I am mentally ill, everyday I feel more and more anxiety and depression/derealization. I constantly think about dying, and that life is meaningless and that I've never been in control of my own actions.
I've taken antidepressants before for a year and felt muted, like I had loss all the things I like about myself. They did help, as my anxiety felt curbed and overall things looked good, did better in school, had a stable relationship.
I feel like I need to get back on them but I really need to know that they aren't some mindwarping jew trick.

What is Yas Forums's opinion on antidepressants? Please only reply if you've taken them yourself or know someone close that has.

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kill urself fluoride faggot nigger kike

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I think they're gay. Make life worth living by finding your own interest in it.

Some people need them. Most don't. If you need them in order to be normal or not hurt anyone then take them.

They don't work. The only things that work are orienting yourself mentally correctly and removing yourself from bad life situations by advancement or bettering your position.

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They can work, barely did on mine but my problem is more than just a disorder in my mindset.... so i got screwed still helped a bit though

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Fix your diet. Exercise. Fix your life. Read.

Your mind and body together make an organic machine. Input the wrong fuel and watch it deteriorate. Many things can be fixed just through customized nutrition and exercise.

Try exercising, loser.

you are using the label like a crutch. your mission is to stop eating shit food, get fit and have sex. if you can accomplish these 3 things you will be cured.

Alright, motherfucker. Life probably has no inherent meaning, but as far as I can tell, you only get one go at it. Your brain is the antenna that sends your experience to your active consciousness, the things you're asking about make it harder for your brain to clean out certain chemicals. Be mindful, be aware of every breath and give purpose to each action. Keep a constant communication between your monkey brain and your human "soul". Do something other than fucking worry. Take pride in brushing your teeth.

If you feel anxious, but nothing is happening to you, go for a run. In fact, go for a run every morning. You need a routine. Flex that willpower, try to be productive.

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>you only get one go at it
The truth might be much worse. You're here forever.

A world where people who are depressed and alone are just given a pill and a boot out the door... Such a gross disgusting world.

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I took Zoloft for two months, probably a small dose but I don't remember it. It didn't make me high, it made me hopeful, made my world seem brighter, though I couldn't put my finger on why ("what am I so hopeful about?"). It also gave me medicine-y smelling poop the first day. I had exercised (maybe not enough), but my depression had gotten really bad anyway. I think external circumstances had something to do with it, too - I'd been badly depressed before (but not medically). I haven't been really depressed since - I think, because I got more in control of my life. It wasn't bad, just, I needed a change. I also had a really good psychiatrist - that can make a big difference.

Go to the gym, keep care of yourself,if lonely get a pet.Dont let the fuckers win.

eat more bacon, it has lots of serotonin. That's why jews don't want you to eat pigs.

The problem is we're social creatures and our modern lives are mostly isolated. The few times I haven't felt just like you describe were when I lived/worked with friends. It's uncommon, you almost have to brute force happiness into your life.
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Some people need them. If diet and exercise don't improve your mental state enough, you have to determine if the potential side effects of the antidepressants are greater or lesser than not taking them. Don't overthink it and don't worry about what other people think about you. Make a pro/con list. Or lists. Are you going to ultimately have a more satisfying life with or without antidepressants? You may have to do a bit of honest soul searching to answer this question, but it will be worth it. And if you try something and it doesn't work out, you can always try something different.

Action is the antidote to despair. ~Joan Baez

I bet you are an NPC
I bet lots of NPCs feel that way
Since they run on instinct impulses and only have a shadow mimic of a rational mind
While their suicidal shadow self eats away at them knowing they are low on the food chain and need to get recycled into the animal soul pool where they belong until the beast rose out of the sea..

Depression is worry about the past, Anxiety is worry about the future. Live in the moment you faggot

Mushroom trip and keto diet + regular exercise cure depression.

I dont disagree - but To be fair, doctors can't exactly give you a fairy tale life with the snap of their fingers either. If the doc could wave a wand and then you step outside and suddenly women are falling over for you and you hit the lottery, then you'd feel truly happy; at least for awhile.

OP i face similar mental struggles as you - not quite as bad; but i often feel intense anxiety and unease for no reason at all, even when my day is going perfectly normal. Even if i try to rationalize it in my head, compare my day with some truly bad days that i've had or bad shit happening to others, it really doesn't make it go away.

But sometimes, i'll pick up my guitar and play a few songs and instantly feel better - could be as simple as a proper breathing exercise to get you through those low moments; and then the rest of the time, you have to come to terms with the fact that life isn't easy.

If you need a tangible goal - realize that nature is challenging you on a personal level. It wants to test you physically and mentally to see if you're a fit genetic specimen to inhabit this life. Life is fairly cozy, so most of the burden is now mental. Even if girls don't like you or shit doesn't go your way; the fact that you're still living is testament that you are winning the game against your underlying enemy. Every day is a battle to be won

quit nicotine, it causes bad depression for some and cures it for others

you need Jesus Christ.

>but To be fair, doctors can't exactly give you a fairy tale life with the snap of their fingers either
True it isn't the doctors fault. It IS the fault of something else though. Namely this world we inhabit.

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Antidepressants didn't help me.
Church was what I was missing. It's not depression. It's that you are missing the key to your entire existence.

This x153

i've had symptoms of major depressive disorder since i was 11.
i absolutely hated life and just generally led a sad existence (especially considering the insane number of things i had going for me) until i was 21.
I started 50mg of zoloft, and it changed my world.
I didn't feel any different, it was just that I lay in bed without my mind racing for hours with self-loathing delusion and I can now get drunk without there being a 100% chance that I'll cry or cut myself when the night is done.

>mindwarping jew trick
pls do not let Yas Forums memes run your life

Interesting... And what happens when your life becomes diet, exercise, reading, work and you are still depressed?

Now let me ask you this if true love could just find it's way to you would that not be a better form of help? How about if life didn't require any work and instead you could have fun? Now let's go further what if there was no snake whissssssspering in your ear? Would that not be the final nail in the coffin of depression?

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Antidepressants just simulate brain process that happens when human getting some new experience\knowledge. Brain rewarding us for those with a good feeling, it's like a drugs. That's why kids love to experimenting with everything that much - it feels good.
But those meds are inferior, compared to real deal. Do something new. Go travel. And then come back and fix your shit.

this is correct
t. boomer with no real knowledge of mental health
t. 14-year-old who read Nietzche's wikipedia page
t. needs to be on clozapine
>Dont let the fuckers win
easy for you to say when it's just a stupid meme for you and not somebody's actual life

Depression is such an ambiguous term today. Most psychiatrists will automatically associate sadness with depression and prescribe you different types of mind altering drugs simply to make their job easier.

It's normal to feel shitty sometimes, user. It's your mind telling you there's something wrong and you should probably work toward fixing it. Use that sadness and existential dread to bring meaning or work toward a goal that will actually make a difference in the world. You'll feel better and will come out of it mentally stronger. Going through life on EZ mode with drugs isn't a life at all.

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All of your feelings are normal. Stay away from medication unless you feel like harming yourself and others. Then you need to be dosed and monitored heavily... but its normal to feel all the rest. Stay safe and healthy

you're having withdrawals from your antidepressants you wimp faggot. start drinking.

Alcohol in moderation is good. It will solve none of your underlying issues though

I guess life just be hard sometimes haha better just take it day by day am I right? It's my fault after all... what am I compared to this world... It's not right for me to ask for a better world because I don't deserve it! I should just bend the knee and start self improving...

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WHAT UNDERLYING ISSUES?!

Yup. We all went through our late teens early 20s doomer phase. I guess it's your turn now.

Stop taking the pills. Go on a full carnivore, dairy products, high fat diet. Walk outside and get some sun.

Nope. Instead I am rejecting the world. I am going to demand the Demiurge give up his crown. Nothing anyone can say will change my mind. This IS my life purpose!

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I’ve been on lamictal for 15 years and it works for me.
It’s hard to find the right one. It’s almost like dating.

It's your diet. Go strict carnivore

It'll lift your spirits!

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Anxiety and depression doesn't make you irreversabely mentally ill. I've been there before. I did drugs, drank much and alone. I took SSRI's to keep me from killing myself because of all the anxiety and panic attacks I felt from day to day. I went to therapy and I'm better than ever before. Keep taking them, you need them. When you are depressed you have a chemical inbalance in your brain. I promise you that things will get better because it WILL. Don't do drugs and stop if you're already doing, don't fucking kill yourself. Pick yourself up. Don't read or listen to what anyone else in this thread says because they're either dumb, don't understand or are just attention whoring.

Be well.

They help some people but also make others worse. I've had DP/DR for 10 years. Medication always made me worse. I have panic attacks when I take medication since drugs are what got me into DP/DR in the first place so I genuinely can't tell if the medication is making me more anxious or if I'm doing it to myself.

But yeah, medication never worked for me but I know people that it has worked for.

M-maybe all these anons are right. I just need to self improve. I just need to get a good job, lift, a nice house, invest my money, learn skills, maybe buy some fancy furniture, and of course WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK. Then ONE DAY maybe I will have the love of my life. But remember you can only see her after WORK. Of course finding her will be tricky... Actually it's better for the snake if you don't find TRUE love. Instead let's hook you up with someone who is close... but not quite there that way you will fight a lot and argue a lot >:)

I much prefer self employment.

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you want actual help little boy.

cuz i done it all.

i lived thru the 15 years of hating my every waking second and its only 90% better, and the 10% is still alot.

i had idk, call it schitz shit, have, idk. call it being too smart and worth more than I get in this shit world.

ill tell you what helps, time. that's about it, that and a good job, one where you feel like you accomplish something good, and in time, you'll learn its worthless and that the people you help are shit and vampires. but anyhow, hay, its something, ull half like some of them, if ur lucky, then its ur only hope that u find the right job where the people actually kind of half give a damn about you and it helps, specially at first, while ur still learnin it all, keeps ur mind more busy on doin ur job and learnin the shit than why ur actually doin the shit. that's the part that helps, it kills a good 5 years.

go fkin do maintenance or plumbing or construction I don't care, I recommend working for a building and swap jobs if its all shitheads and no one decent, specifically ur boss's. swap instantly and do it once or twice till you have it.

moral of the story is, you've probably got it better than me and ur just a bitch and I cant help you and nothing will help you. truth is, time is what helps, for the most part, and not actually just killing urself during that day ur feeling like shit and about to do it, because the next day or month might be a lil better, then shit again, then better, until ur fkin 15 years in and somehow manage to find a little bit of "things are ok now" not fine, but ok. and that's until we see what happens next year for me haha.

it doesn't go away faggot, but u do learn to deal with shit better, and like I said, u prob don't even have the right to be bitching, if I can still live and enjoy a few things, and the people who have it even worse than me, im sure theres tons, then u need to fuckin calm down a bit, let time heal shit, it aint gunna happen fast either.

and I do mean dealin with that 10% is still a lot, not the other way around. who am I kidding its prob still 30% shit, maby 50% shit. but its way way better.

You are right. I went on SSRI's for a period because my anxiety got so bad i got suicidal thoughts. Most people doesn't know what it's like to feel that kind of desperation while at the same time not wanting to die. Exposure therapy saved me and if antidepressants or benzos doesn't help you (which in serious cases it won't) therapy is the only way to go.

I strongly suspect that a lot of people who think they are crazy are tapped into spiritual aspects of the universe they are not equipped to understand. Either they should attempt to learn more or just accept that the universe is more complicated than is generally believed and stop worrying about it. If there was ever a time to realize things are weird beneath the surface it's this moment in history and so what if it's weird?

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Anti depressants are as good as your psychiatrists is, and you also need a good cognitive behavioural therapist. I had depression and autism, but after 4 years of treatmeat, I started and finished college, got my first job, as a civil servant and started living by myself in a diferent state. Yas Forums is wrong about this. Even your libido won't suffer with the right medicines.

Yeah. The most helpful thing for me was to actually understand what was happening and then maybe you can work toward finding out why it's happening.

Exactly. Good luck, brother.

As if you can just stop worrying? Of course you can certainly feed the worry but in a world of suffering you WILL suffer. However, you do not HAVE to accept the idea of suffering. You can reject the notion that you should have to suffer. The conundrum is that the mere rejection of it on the surface appears to do nothing. After all even if you reject it you will feel it. But if you are willing to postulate that you are the dreamer, someone that constructs reality then perhaps the rejection of the necessity of suffering will itself restructure reality.

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Checked. This. Experiment with psychedelics, OP.

Why should I care

People have no idea how much their diet has to do with their mental state. The mind/gut connection is insane. When I started only eating fatty meats, eggs, organs, and Icelandic yogurt I cured all depression and anxiety

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Nigger please. I spent 6 years of my life wanting to die and almost did it at one point. I never saw things getting better until they did. At some point or another you just stop giving a fuck about these thoughts and move on with life.

If I had went to a shrink and answered all questions truthfully they would have put me on something, and I'd likely still be on it today. Never having sorted through anything in my mind on my own. Not to mention the shitty side effects of half these drugs.

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Wow... imagine that... yogurt making your life worth living...

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Umm. Try therapy?

Yes, feeding the worry is what gets people in the hard-to-get-out-of loop of anxiety and panic attacks. Existential crisises are some of the worst to get out of, I think. Therapy and antidepressants are the way to go. There aren't any other way and sadly too many are using drugs and alcohol as a crutch to numb the pain.

No user therapy and drugs are bullshit. It's the world that is fucked. I am saying all of this while simultaneously not wanting to kill myself. I don't want to die and I don't want to live in this shitty world. I want the world to change. Those are my true feelings to deny them is to deny my heart.

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Oh man. I've had existential crisis's since I was 11. It's some of the most bizarre shit ever. All you can do for 18 hours a day is focus on how bizarre existence is and how freaky it is that anything exists at all.

The average Joe wouldn't even really consider something like this but for some reason I used to obsess over it and it'd cause the worst pain in my stomach.

That's you and I'm glad it worked out but it's not like that for a lot of other people. The video you linked is top tier though.

I don't trust them. Especially SSRI's. They make you feel nothing at all. Robotic, almost. I would rather deal with feeling like shit all the time than feel nothing. That being said, they do help some people. It's worth a shot user. You can always stop taking them if you don't like them

But when I'm not in the weird existential loop, I don't even give a shit about existential questions. I assume that's what it's like to be normal. It's as if a switch has been flicked and it doesn't bother me anymore.

I know that feeling, I do. Sometimes you just need to take a step back and be "dumb". Over analyzing the wold will most often just enable your anxiety. Yes, I do agree that a lot of the parts are fucked but you can also see beauty in it. Anxiety doesn't have a political agenda and you need to try to seperate anxiety from yourself.
Yeah, I get that completely. I believe it's called dissasociation. It's scary and it's not nice. It will fuck with your mind as long as you encourage it. This is why getting a therapist who you can honestly and creatively speak to is the only thing that will truly help you get over your fears.

Antidepressants are trash, try some Yerba Mate. Brew it the traditional way with a fuck ton of leaves in a gourd and trust me the high levels of caffeine and theobromine will put pep in your step and a smile on your face

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Yea. It's DP/DR which OP is talking about. I can't afford a therapist and I'm unable to get one appointed to me. I've had this feeling chronically for 10 years man, it's hell.

Yeah and I feel it the same from time to time. More when I was really suffering. Right now I don't care. But if I were to get a panic attack or a heightened anxiety I would be in a completely different mindset.

quit being a faggot

I love you user stay safe plz

Well thanks user. I will try not to worry too much then. I do think the world will start changing for the better soon.

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