If you look at just about every communist country in history they're always ultranationalistic, socially conservative...

unlike the US and modern day russia, most empires that ever existed and even the third reich where such a thing does not happen.

True. Russians were (and still are) incredibly racist. But during the Cold War, they still supported black nationalists in Africa and the United States. Just as long as they were not in their own country.

Buildings?

Yes but they were all made the same! Instead of the individual tribal and ethnic cultures, they were all made “Soviet”.

Communist nationalism isn't patriotic its enforced and propagandized.

>Thread was made by a commie zoomer who hasn't experienced communism
What are "bread lines" ?? What is starvation ??

>P-please goyim join my death cult
Fuck off commie piece of shit

(NB : capitalism isn't that good either but at least it works)

like various celtic tribes got amalgamized to be brits and germanic tribes became the dutch, austrian, swiss and german peoples. face it. National soccialism and ethnocommunism are based.

That is nothing like it. The Soviet Union was globalist, seeking to make EVERYONE “Soviet”. Those tribes united out of shared culture and brotherhood, not out of some totalitarian despot forcing them together under the guise of “world equality”

not true
don't speak about things you have no idea mutt

Commies put themselves in time capsule while western nations turned into faggot loving hippies

Were you even alive during the cold war? Do you even know what the stated goal of the international was? What a Soviet Republic was?

actually yes at all your question youngling

>youngling
Guess again.

ok boomer

in capitalist europe they looked the same..

my gf dad was made corepgraphys for a soviet circus, there was a strong focus on "looking" slavic (a.k.a. no gypsies,chechen and such) and from 1960 there was a strong chrisitian movement inside the soviet

communist is dead already
china is not real communist tho

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Congrats, OP, you managed to fall for their shitty theatrics. See those commieblocks in the background? That's what actual communism is: soulless, intentionally demoralizing, and blatantly ugly. There's nothing "ultranationalistic" about believing that everyone is the same and that some nations aren't superior to others, and there's nothing nationalistic about being taught to act as slaves for the state instead of supporting your countrymen first and foremost. The Chinese watching their fellows get run over by tanks in Tianenmen Square and then submissively bowing down is what Communism gets you, and what would you have to say about the Hungarian and Czech nationalist uprisings that the Soviets crushed?
>Yeah you typically have to wait in line when you want to buy food.
Hilarious cope. Even in the middle of a global pandemic, capitalist store shelves are only empty for a day or two at most. And that's for relative luxury items, not basic food.
>America has the highest prison population on the planet.
Kek, because of niggers, and they sure don't have it as bad as Soviet prisoners did. Good job outing yourself as another basic bitch leftist, though. You couldn't even keep up the "gommunism is redpilled and based!" act for two posts

Culturally they're based, but economically they're fucked.

It all boils down to which value theory you subscribe to- the Market Theory of Value, or the Labor Theory of Value.

MTV states that an object is worth exactly how much I want it, and what I'm willing to pay to get it. This is the basis of capitalism- whoever can offer me what I want at the lowest price and the highest quality gets my business, driving innovation and development, while businesses of a lower quality die out.

The major flaw in capitalism though is that markets tend to monopolize and form conglomerates, and can have undue control over the government. You need strong regulation to prevent environmental degradation, corruption, and monopolies.

LTV states that an object is worth exactly how much work was put into it. Coal in the Earth is worth nothing, but coal that's been extracted and refined has value. Therefore, the working class should be directly compensated for their work by consumers, and not by employers. Employers may offer fair compensation for the workers' labor, but they then derive MORE value from it in the form of profit. And because all value is derived from labor, this profit must then belong to the workers.

The major flaw in this is that no one is allowed to make any individual decision about what something is actually worth (except in anarchism.) Either the collective has to vote on how much each product is worth, (democratic socialism) or they have to elect leaders who will dictate what things are worth (bolshevism). The former always descends into the latter, because it's impossible to come to a societal agreement on how much a certain object is worth.

If communism actually did work the way it's supposed to, I would be whole-heartedly for it, but as it is I have to content myself with Third-Positionism.

>civic nationalism
Did you forget about the race war that broke out in East Germany when German men beat the living fuck out of Cubans for ogling their women? Good ole Walter Ulbricht just kinda laughed it off as Castro was getting asshurt. And then there was Erich Mielke who was known to have “Nazi” sympathies since he funded nationalist parties in the West and gave fuck all to other communist parties.

Hardly “civnat”

Aaaaaand let’s not forget how the SED and the Stasi employed lots of ex-NSDAP members as

>Commies put themselves in time capsule while western nations turned into faggot loving hippies

Living under any authoritarian trad society will do this.

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Soviet Union:
>makes Central Asians act like Soviets and follow the Soviet culture
>attacks Afghanistan to install a Soviet regime
>Soviet which really means a Russian is taking over everyone's national identity

Russian Federation:
>invites Central Asians to make up for the lost population
>Moscow is now filled with people worshipping Allah instead of the Communist Party
>Russians are paying Chechens protection money when before they would have been sent to gulags or shot for disobedience for their government

Communism was tough but fair.

>Commies are objectively more nationalistic
>REEEEE YOU ARE CHANG
take of that memeflag so we can see where that low iq post came from

YES.

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Yes. Look at these two options:

1. Communism + nationalism + traditional social values
2. Capitalism + globalism + progressive social values (what we have currently)

Almost all of Yas Forums would prefer #1 and almost all modern-day "leftists" would prefer #2.

This proves that the fight today is NOT between capitalism and socialism like some like to think. It's between nationalism and globalism. It's about social justice.

When leftists say they want socialism, what they really mean is that they want reparations from white people and open borders and radical feminism. Leftists don't REALLY care about actual public ownership of the means of production, I'm honestly convinced that they say that just because it sounds cooler to say "I'm a socialist" than "I support LGBTQIA+ rights and refugees". Especially for the white guys (and most of the people who are pretending to be communists are white guys, I think they know deep down that the current dominant leftist ideology is stupid, but they don't have the balls to not be a leftist, they want to be "good boys").

I have an account on Reddit, and I go around a lot of leftist boards (these people are obsessed with reading old books for some reason), and I love pointing out that all their favourite socialist writers were anti-semitic and sexist and believed in racial differences and pro-military and so on.

It demoralises them so much when you point out to them that the socialists 100 years ago had more in common (at least with social values) with Trump supporters and Brexit voters than they do with the current left. They know deep down its true, and they hate it.

‘Warm beer and cold sausage will keep the people’s mouth shut’ - the slogan of the Warsaw Pact countries

Lol
youtu.be/aOkyUaZZaOw

>Communism was tough but fair.

Soviet Communism wasn't communism, it was Russian nationalism and Russified any bloc nation they occupied

Show me that Estonian passport, Vladimir.

Yes. Capitalism and communism are both hell holes but communism froze the societies they were in and prevented the creeping social decadence of liberalism. Read Yockey. This idea isn’t new.

>muh breadlines

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muh gulags

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pt 2

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And Yockey got it from Niekisch, who was a hardcore German nationalist and anti-semite who later became a commie but still nationalist and anti-semite

>they're always ultranationalistic, socially conservative
You dumb?

>socially conservative
USSR had feminism before America even knew what it was, and legal abortions too.

Fuck off ignorant nigger.

No you don't understand, central asians in ussr were fed by money on russians with higher quality production while we had to eat shit made of palm oil, and another example if you want to buy bananas you had to move in moscow to buy them because other ethnic russian regions were on lower cathegory of supply, there were no such thing as soviet culture, just a little bit of westernization and no, nobody were worshipping comunist party in reality, there were not so many hardcore commies actually, only 5% of population were the members of communist party.
And people were constantly fed with this internationalistic-friendship propaganda, for all good against everything bad.
Also,
>attacks Afghanistan to install a Soviet regime
Afghani leader asked them for interventions, would you say that the US attacked Vietnam for example? No. Same shit with Afghanistan.
There were not so much difference between the US and USSR in reality, if we speaking of 60-80s, only the quality of life perhaps, and the ways of how they were implementing multiculturalism.

idk what's worse, straight up anti-communists or fascists who try to co-opt communism for some reason

>America has the highest prison population on the planet.
Not true since China interned 2 million Uyghur Muslims.

Yes. The left/right, National Bolshevik, Red/Brown alliance, that pops up occasionally is incredibly interesting. Both sides realize they have far more in common than they do with globalist neoliberal degenerates.

All communists must die.

define communism

Yes, unlike under freedom, the horrors are all under the surface.

Foreigners in communist countries
>Visit Russia, take pictures, make friends
>Go home after your work assignment/vacation is done
>Share fond memories of distinct cultures and helping people on another nation reach self sufficiency
Foreigners in market societies:
>Millions of illegal immigrants rushing the border to make you cheap Subway, Gyros, Tacos, rape your children, pick fruit, rape your wife, sell drugs
>They all form ethnic enclaves and never assimilate
>H1Bs invited in by corporations to replace you and it doesn't matter to them if they can't even do the work right since they can just hire another 3 for the same price as 1 American

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Source ?

Oh shit nigga

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Ketofags BTFO?

>Communism.
>Quantity based problem solving.

Yeh it works, but ask the millions of uneccesary people that died to it, the only people that approve of it are the ones that didn't had to put their life on the line.

Gays and transgenders don't know what the fuck it's all about, it's like a fairy tale to them. Being watched over by the government. You're nothing but a tool for them and you'll be the last to give a fuck about.

I got fooled? I've seen what communists get up to, everyone starves.

Interviews, photograph, NKVD internal reports

Thats very vague. I want the name of specific documents, interviews of common people, etc.

Traditions? No way, look at those ugly ass grey buildings build for animals. Churches abolished, traditions pushed to remote villages and mountains, patriotism is not real patriotism but love for the communist party.

Bro! You posted cringe bro! Bro never post cringe bro!

makes me want to buy a ZIL-131, install a bunch of woovers into the command cab and drive allong the highway blasting Prussian, third reich and DDR Patritic songs.

This is a perfect example of a blurred line between eco-boomers and gen z. What are ya, a 65 yo single hippy grandma, or a feminist green hair? The world may never know.

>true ethnostate

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