The next frontier for the white race is space, however previous candidates for a colony all fall short in at least one aspect and usually many;
>Mars
radiation, perchlorates, high energy to launch, limited energy sources.
>Europa
HIGH radiation, limited volatiles.
>titan
hydrogen cyanide clouds, far from metal resources ( iron is as rare as gold on titan)
>Venus
sulphuric acid clouds, high temps, can never land, no water.
and now i present to you Triton, the overlooked dark horse of space colonisation.
>Triton
covered by tens to hundreds of metres of nitrogen ice which could be evaporated to give an atmosphere of 0.124 atm (vapour pressure of nitrogen) within a year by spreading dust from Proteus a moon with an albedo "as dark as asphalt" raising temps and sublimating all the nitrogen. this atmosphere is replenished by cryovolcanism and in the past maintained a thick atmosphere for hundreds of millions of years. there are heaps of hydrocarbon volatiles covering the surface too. with a gravity half that of the moon it would be a simply matter to run a gas mining operation on neptune which is the most helium 3 and deuterium concentrated body in the solar system. Triton is also inside the magnetic field of Neptune 25 times stronger magnetosphere than earth but no deadly radiation belts like Jupiter. Neptune is also very close to the kuiper belt which has 200 times the rock, iron and volatiles that the asteroid belt has. i present to you gentlemen that we "Titanform" Triton and conquer the fucking solar system with a monopoly on fusion fuel and mineral resources of the kuiper belt...
Neptunes moon Triton is the future of the white race
Let's not get carried away, ok? Mars is perfectly fine, and it even gets reasonable amounts of sunlight.
lol fag
Triton is so far away that it got visited ONCE by a probe, compared to the dozens to Mars, Venus and Jupiter. We know little about it, it takes a decade to get there, with a huge cost and little profit.
Sending Astronauts to Mars and back takes 1-2 years. To Triton - 20.
This mars can be teraformed in theory at least
Titan has methane lakes. There are hundreds of times more hydrocarbons there than in all of earths oil and natural gas reserves. If a fuel refining base was set up it could fuel spacecrafts for exploring outer solar system. I guess theyll need to make oxygen somehow though. A chemist could determine how feasible this actually is though.
mars has toxic soil, carcinogens galour, radiation, fuck all nitrogen, limited energy sources (solar panel work like shit there), it still have a considerable gravity well so mining asteroids nearby will still be difficult. mars is fucking trash
p.s. mars cant be terraformed
mars doesnt have the co2 required to bring mars above the Armstrong point so even if you released 100% of the gases stored on mars you'd STILL need a pressure suit
>inb4 comet meme plan response
yeah and where are those comets ??? past fucking Neptune??? to terraformed mars over millenia you'd need a colony on triton first anyways and on this time frame itll be much easier to mine the atmosphere of Neptune for helium 3 and deuterium like project Daedalus suggested. at which point a fusion rocket could get to 0.2c and we could be at a hundreds of habitable exoplanets. mars is fucking gutter trash of an option that will send you bankrupt with no revenue sources to make it profitable
Why not Saturn? It's bigger.
Triton has methane ice ? 0.1% of all ice on Triton is frozen methane, and 30% is co2 which could be converted into methane and oxygen using MOXIE in fact there is significantly MORE carbon on Triton than on titan. and neptune is 6 times more concentrated helium 3 than Saturn is and more than 7 times more concentrated in deuterium abundance, not to mention a MUCH smaller gravity well
It took Voyager 2 12 years to get there you brainlet. It takes a year or two to get to Mars. The odds of putting a man on Mars are low, the odds of doing it to Triton are zero.
>doesnt know about the rocket equation
yikes bro you just posted cringe. the energy cost for 1 kg to be lifted from saturn is 630,125,000 joules vs the 276,125,000 joules it takes for neptune, not even including the fact that Neptunes helium 3 concentrations and deuterium concentration are 7 times more potent than saturn, bigger is not always better burger...
we have much better propulsion systems today, VASIMR could reach neptune in a year long journey
Mars core has completwly cooled off. Theres no magnetic feild. So even if you could introduce atmosphere the suns solar winds would just blow it away. But we should definitely go there and set up science base. It would would be exactly like the campy sci fi movie ghosts of mars.
that's pretty cool. Do you think it's combustible?
What I never understand is if there are these methane lakes, why do they insist that oil and natural gases on Earth are exclusively of fossil origin?
Neptune? Son, there's literally fucking nothing on Neptune.
theres no oxygen on titan, so that oxygen needs to be made from electrolysis which is more energy intensive than just using co2 and water on triton which is MORE numerous than methane on titan and simply using MOXIE to convert it to methane and oxygen for propellant . and best part is because of the low temps methane and oxygen ice can be turned into a solid core rocket greatly decreasing the complexity of rockets for no extra cost.
It should be but no oxygen needed for the reaction. Gotta get your own o2 somehow.
except the deuterium, helium 3, and kuiper belt resources? ya know nothing valuable lmao fuck off boomer
I suppose it's possible some of the gas might be, but methane (CH4) is the simplest hydrocarbon. Oil is far more complex.
>mars has toxic soil,
Only a top meter or so.
what about Ganymede? Slightly closer to Earth, made of water ice/rock and could potentially have a subsurface ocean, similar escape velocity to the moon & it has it's own magnetic field
read this lakes of methane have no benefit over using MOXIE to convert water and co2 into methane and oxygen because youd have to get 100% of your oxygen from electrolysis anyway. and there is dozens of times more co2 on Triton than there is methane on titan, and as i said because of the low temps it simplifies rocket fuel into bricks of oxygen and methane ice for solid core rockets
youtube.com
Our main sail hath shot 'cross the punch or-ange sky
Waves we pass slow, but 40 meters high
Oh the methane blows beneath the bow a 100 fathoms down
As we sail Kraken Mare down home for Vonnegut town
Hey o hey hear the tug of Titan's tide,
Hey o hey smell the whiff of cyanide,
Hey o hey hear the splash of oily foam,
The ghost of hot Saturn says: "You're far from home"
The shores of mighty highland feed the sea with storming stream(s)
A witches' brew of chemistry, it's a madman's fever dream,
And somewhere down beneath the waves in hydrocarbon hell,
God knows what ghost lurks there, maybe Titan krakens dwell
Hey o hey hear the tug of Titan's tide,
Hey o hey smell the whiff of cyanide,
Hey o hey hear the splash of oily foam,
The ghost of hot Saturn says: "You'll never make it home"
The ethane sleet has slammed us up 'gainst a tarry shore
Ice rock ripped through the hull and left a jagged hole
Abandon ship! Now man the boats! Tiz' a chilly place to die!
Flap the long boat wings boys! Haul on those oars and fly!
Hey o hey hear the tug of Titan's tide,
Hey o hey smell the whiff of cyanide,
Hey o hey hear the splash of oily foam,
The ghost of hot Saturn says: "Now here's your only home"
oh so you are just going to avoid chemical contamination due to the top soil of the entire planet yeah right... and thats not even including the hexavalent chromium on mars which WILL give u cancer
Cool, so whose paying for it and administrating this 10000+ year project?
Potential of Mars is not colonization but archeology.
We know that Mars was killed, question is who did it and why.
the only benefit of a magnetic field is to lower radiation, but on Ganymede, its in the fucking radiation belt of Jupiter and will literally give u a fatal dose of radiation within half a day. also it has no real resources, very little carbon, fuck all nitrogen. its escape velocity is still much higher than tritons and it doesnt have the benefit of being easily able to be given a significant atmosphere, also jupiter with a escape velocity 4.5 times higher than earths you are not mining it for fucking anything
>Who and why
Personally I think Mars was at some point impacted by something BIG, leaving behind the Valles Marinus - the massive scar that wraps round half the planet.
Funny some things were openly talked about in 1970s but now you are ridiculed
Astronomers should not books on nuclear physics
Interesring. Will a brick made from methane ice and oxygen be like volatile time bomb? Are you saying we could combust methane ice?
Better to assume all predictions are wrong since they were made using kike physics and nasa lies.
Lyot impact is acknowledged in mainstream literature as killer of Mars
Does not explain fucked up isotope ratios
Does not explain apparent artificiality of some structures
Sperg delusional fantasys to add the the list.
MUH ARTIFICAL WOMBS
MUH AI ROBOT WAFIUS
MUH COLONIZATION OF MUH SPACE PLANETS
MUH MUH MUH MUH STAR WARZ
Space is a meme faggot. The heliocentric model is a scam.
its not a 10000 year project faggot, even in the 80s it only took 12 years to reach it, today we have the foundations to do it in a year using VASIMR and to give it a atmosphere covering a small moon with a low albedo material from a TINY moon than passes within a few hundred kms away could be done within a year and at that point the nitrogen would sublimate at -210 Celsius and meet its triple point to create a atmosphere of 0.124 bars or 12.5% of earths atmosphere, there will be lakes of nitrogen on Triton at this point and a nitrogen rain system all of this within 15 years. at that point staging a deuterium and helium 3 mining operation of neptune would be simple and profitable
If you freeze this...
The planet was just unlucky. Our solar system could have very easily had 3 habitable planets. 2 of them got fucked over by random space shit and greenhouse effect.
...you get this
Likely not true but if there were ancient ruins found in mars that would be bad sign for the human species. It would essentual mean our ancestors didnt make it past the great fiter and its likely we wont either.
Is the miles thick layer of ice not enough to stop radiation reaching the ocean in Europa?
Something large impacting at very high speed would easily have the explosive force of hundreds of nuclear bombs going off.
we have the power of concentrated autism, we can do it
flash point of methane is -188 celcius, at -210 celsius it should be rather stable UNTIL it is deliberately lit at which point the point of ignition will be a chain reaction heating close ice and igniting and acting like a regular solid propellant, similar to ALICE propellant
There is a proposed flyby mission to Triton (Nasa will pick 1 out of 4 finalists) planned launch is 2031, arrives 2039
A perchlorate economy on Mars could reduce the price of rocket fuel nationwide?
What's with niggering out by calling it the future of the white race, though? Whites are humans. We're the race that realized racism was dumb.
I could imagine genetically
Engineering a plant that destroys the perchlorate
Interesting stuff, got any more on this?
I wonder what earth was when ancient mars was allegedly nuked, and did they remain in colonies over this long of time, or did they eventually lose their tech and die off. What do you think happened to the ancient martians?
>random space shit
>random
Pic related is on the Moon
Google the filename to learn more
It's a center of a an area of increased radioactivity
Mainstream explanation is that it's a former volcano
Does it look like a volcano to you?
Or rubble?
Random shit my ass.
Is the idea with electric propulsion ie vasimir that you get better returns for longer journeys because you are constantly accelerating?
Mars was green until it was nuked to hell. Mars was literally our home, earth is a just-barely-suitable replacement.
But it would not make the isotopic residue Xe-129 is made in three places:
> supernova
We can rule that out because a supernova raining Xe-129 would also rain it on Earth
> a reactor making plutonium
> an exploding bomb
The last two are not mutually exclusive
it is but the pressure at that point is fucking insane, and you have to excavate you bases and any surface electronics would be degrades constantly and youd need sources of carbon and nitrogen. and it also doesnt have a atmosphere nor a way to give it one. and its so far in the gravity well of Jupiter leaving the Jovian system requires the same energy to leave mars, and you cant mine Jupiter competitively with neptune because of the gravity AND deuterium and helium 3 concentration superiority on neptune , and neptune is close to the kupier belt with 200 times more resources than the asteroid belt. triton is the perfect location
yes
small amounts of acceleration over a LONG time result in greater speeds that high acceleration for a limited time
Brandenburg's lecture if you have half an hour youtube.com
Dude worked on nuclear weapons at LANL
Even his critics acknowledge that
So either LANL employs cranks, or he's onto something
Massive dust storms would fuck up anything you tried to build on Mars. It's ok to visit but you can't sustain a permanent settlement there.
Its also pretty likely mars has alien life in the form of methane brapping bacteria. Not exactly ayys but alines confirmed sorta!
Just randomly grabbed that artucle but several different sources talk about it.
earthsky.org
cia.gov
1984
CIA remote viewing Mars at the request of another agency
What could that agency be?
> inb4 remote viewing is bullshit
>alien life
>alien
Dude, bacteria was riding both ways on meteorites since the Solar System formed
> what is ALH840001
Both sides used nukes, the reason is obvious, war.
Anunnaki nuked the greys and human lliance on mars.
Tell me why the greys have never waged war on humans? they are not our enemies, except a portion of those that serve the draconians.
Then when hitler was in power they nuked the kike bases on mars, this is why mars is radioactive.
It can be terraformed, we have to get rid of the radiation and plant trees.
If we built a ship manufacturing plant on the moon we could make nuclear powered space ships in low gravity. This would make deep solar system travel very possible, as you'd be able to ditch chemical propellents all together and only use them for Earth to Moon shuttles.
Single mindess of any group while admirable and beneficial to survival can often lead to rash and perilous decisions leading the whole herd off the cliff.
Take chairman Xi his decision to sweep the pandemic under the rug for too long has caused worldwide disaster. Many countries are deciding weather to keep all their business in china is a wise decision especially vital industry such as medicine and weapon industries
Collective single mindedness is a danger especially if its hides under paternal mentality void of sensible science.
Brapping bacteria is still a living organaim. Youre discrimnating against the martian brappers. Reeeeee!!
Then go u nigger mutt, EARTH is for Christians , Satanist go play star wars like s o y niggers
Ok cool, thx dude I'll check it out. Maybe white people came from Mars and it got nuked in the past. Come and set up on earth and meddled with humanoid genetics and non-whites are the off shoot results. Maybe best to recolonize mars, then when everything is ready, nuke the earth so niggers can't come ruin it. The chinese will make shit knock off version
Flat Earth crayon eater detected.
Martian brappers are lost cousins to our brappers.
Give them honorary citizenship.
Interesting theory, but death of Mars is dated 200-50Mya years ago depending what cratering rate you take.
Coincidentally Chixculub impact killed dinosaurs 65Mya.
Saturn's rings formed around the same time.
> One big war?
Pic related, this theory on schizo mode
That’s not your biggest problem. Mars has too small an em field. It won’t hold atmosphere. That’s only one of the major problems.
Effective Terraforming is outside of our technical capabilities for the foreseeable future. However, creating habitats underground is comparatively trivial.
>toxic soil, carcinogens, radiation
That's earth retard
>limited energy sources
Just clean the solar panels retard
>considerable gravity
Gravity is good for humans retard
>cant be terraformed
Doesn't have to be terraformed retard
Mars is the most practical and logical choice. Only morons disagree and want to go to some meme moon of some outer solar system planet.